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Injection amount in proportion to Body Weight

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2007/06/07 18:18:24 (permalink)

Injection amount in proportion to Body Weight

Amount of AAS Injected in proportion to Lean Body Weight....

On first thought it would seem to make sense that you would need more AAS for someone who has say 100kg lean weight compared to someone with 60kg lean weight.

Does anyone have any experience with this method of dosing, is there any formula that anyone has tried or knows of, and of course what are your view points on it??

I'm sure there are many things to consider e.g. first cycle vs X number of cycles where a beginner is more receptive etc but lets have a talk about it anyway.

I look forward to your replies!

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    RE: Injection amount in proportion to Body Weight 2007/06/07 18:34:38 (permalink)
    Someone who weighs 60kg shouldnt be running AAS IMO.

    and yes, bodyweight does make a difference, I would recommend a higher dose for a 120kg BBer than for an 80kg bloke. but then if someone weighed 120kg lean, Id expect them to have run quite a few cycles already...


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    RE: Injection amount in proportion to Body Weight 2007/06/07 19:55:02 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: tac

    Someone who weighs 60kg shouldnt be running AAS IMO.



    haha of course. 60kg was just to illustrate a decent difference between my initial example of 100kg.


    and yes, bodyweight does make a difference, I would recommend a higher dose for a 120kg BBer than for an 80kg bloke. but then if someone weighed 120kg lean, Id expect them to have run quite a few cycles already...


    Please note im not asking for advice in relation to anyone so weights i quoted are just for illustration of the idea.

    Anyone know of any formulas anyone has come up with.

    I'm wondering if there is any way of making dose specific to an indevidual. I know its alot of trial an error, dependant on the indevidual etc etc but to get a base line for an indevidual would be nice.
    I always see 500mg Test per week advised for pretty much anyone end everyone.. Fine, this is common practice but its not specific to an indevidual.

    e.g. To approximate the common 500mg test/week for me:

    Formula: 8mg Test per kg of lean body weight per week:
    I weigh 74kg and have about 65kg lean weight.
    So it would be: 8mg test x 65kg lean weight = 520mg/week which is close to the common 500mg/week recomendation we always hear.

    So if that were true... and im not saying it is before anyone posts a rant about what utter garbage this formula is... but if it were true, 500mg/week would be fine for me and then my friend who lets say has 80kg lean weight would require 640mg/week and his bigger brother with say 120kg lean weight would require 960mg/week based on that formula.

    It all sounds great.. but does anyone know what would be a closer estimate??

    what ya think?? and if anyone has experience with this kind of thing please let me know your findings.
    Thanks!

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    RE: Injection amount in proportion to Body Weight 2007/06/07 20:20:23 (permalink)
    Bodyweight has no bearing on dosing IMHO as you should saturate gains naturally first, we all have very similar natural hormone levels but some are much bigger naturally, they should not require any higher a starting dose than someone smaller as any exogenous value above natural levels should be a benefit to both regardless of bodyweight.

    Bigfella.

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    RE: Injection amount in proportion to Body Weight 2007/06/07 20:35:28 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Bigfella

    Bodyweight has no bearing on dosing IMHO as you should saturate gains naturally first, we all have very similar natural hormone levels but some are much bigger naturally, they should not require any higher a starting dose than someone smaller as any exogenous value above natural levels should be a benefit to both regardless of bodyweight.

    Bigfella.


    hmmm.... fair comment! pissed on my fire didn't ya! haha

    BUT...would a larger person not need a larger amount of test in their body to gain a certain % amount above their natural level? are test levels measured as a percent or quantity per litre of blood or something? If so then a larger person would have a larger amount of blood and so to saturate to a certain level would need to inject more AAS?

    What factors in your opinion need to be considered when working out what dose to use?

    Cheers!

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    RE: Injection amount in proportion to Body Weight 2007/06/07 22:19:35 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: gmmonkey


    ORIGINAL: Bigfella

    Bodyweight has no bearing on dosing IMHO as you should saturate gains naturally first, we all have very similar natural hormone levels but some are much bigger naturally, they should not require any higher a starting dose than someone smaller as any exogenous value above natural levels should be a benefit to both regardless of bodyweight.

    Bigfella.


    hmmm.... fair comment! pissed on my fire didn't ya! haha

    BUT...would a larger person not need a larger amount of test in their body to gain a certain % amount above their natural level? are test levels measured as a percent or quantity per litre of blood or something? If so then a larger person would have a larger amount of blood and so to saturate to a certain level would need to inject more AAS?

    What factors in your opinion need to be considered when working out what dose to use?

    Cheers!

    The most important point when considering what dose to use is once you have saturated your gains naturally, you begin with a low dose and do the same, you should only consider upping the dose if you have truly exhausted your gains at the lower dose, most people use this increasing dose too frequently to cover other shortfalls in their BBing lifestyle as in diet, rest, training etc.

    There is no formula, some of the biggest guys on here use very very low doses indeed, you would be surprised, and some medium and small/skinny guys use monster doses.

    Bottom line get everything right, start low and do it safe is the best plan IMO

    Bigfella.

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    RE: Injection amount in proportion to Body Weight 2007/06/08 22:54:21 (permalink)

    The most important point when considering what dose to use is once you have saturated your gains naturally, you begin with a low dose and do the same, you should only consider upping the dose if you have truly exhausted your gains at the lower dose, most people use this increasing dose too frequently to cover other shortfalls in their BBing lifestyle as in diet, rest, training etc.

    There is no formula, some of the biggest guys on here use very very low doses indeed, you would be surprised, and some medium and small/skinny guys use monster doses.

    Bottom line get everything right, start low and do it safe is the best plan IMO

    Bigfella.



    And there's my answer! Thanks Bigfella, perfect sense!

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