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2005/08/05 17:56:00 (permalink)
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Intense short session cardio

Any advocates of this?
I mean say 15mins of hard intense, I'm dying cardio as oposed to walking on a treamill for like 45mins.

I think the short session cardio would be just as effective, if not better, for someone with a fast metabolism, for burning calories.
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    ToxicToffee
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    RE: Intense short session cardio 2005/08/05 18:01:09 (permalink)
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    impossible to tell

    timing of cardio, diet, fitness levels and so on will determine its effectiveness
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    RE: Intense short session cardio 2005/08/05 18:11:48 (permalink)
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    Alright, I figured it was a bit of an ambiguous question.

    Something else I wondered about was: Some people are fitter than others. So, a fit person may run on a treadmill (at an easy pace) for 20mins and burn X calories; but if an unfit person ran at the same speed for 20 mins, sweated **** loads more, nearly had a heart attack etc. would the unfit person have burnt more calories?

    Man, that sounds like a maths problem. too much studying
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    RE: Intense short session cardio 2005/08/05 18:14:30 (permalink)
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    Well, was the unfit person running at a higher intensity? Probably, so yeh, they would of burned more calories. Its a bit of a silly question really, if person A is fitter than person B then person A will likely be able to run at a given speed at a lesser intensity than person B.

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    RE: Intense short session cardio 2005/08/05 19:10:25 (permalink)
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    You see, i'd learn from that. Why don't they use examples like this in schools. We had crap like, If I put 2 red marbles and 1 blue marble in a bag, what are the chances of pulling out a green marble?
    it's just irrelevant!
    ORIGINAL: sillynarbie

    Well, was the unfit person running at a higher intensity? Probably, so yeh, they would of burned more calories. Its a bit of a silly question really, if person A is fitter than person B then person A will likely be able to run at a given speed at a lesser intensity than person B.



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    RE: Intense short session cardio 2005/08/05 20:02:24 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: sillynarbie

    Well, was the unfit person running at a higher intensity? Probably, so yeh, they would of burned more calories. Its a bit of a silly question really, if person A is fitter than person B then person A will likely be able to run at a given speed at a lesser intensity than person B.




    and for person A and person B to burn the same amount of calories, person A might have to run fast for about 20mins whereas person might only need to walk slow for 20?

    U can call it a silly question if u want. Like when u see real obese people, on TV, struggling to walk on a treadmill sweating and panting etc. I always wondered if them doing that was burning loads of calories or if they just had to get into shape to perform a proper cardio session.

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    RE: Intense short session cardio 2005/08/05 20:36:38 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: trevor_macdonald


    ORIGINAL: sillynarbie

    Well, was the unfit person running at a higher intensity? Probably, so yeh, they would of burned more calories. Its a bit of a silly question really, if person A is fitter than person B then person A will likely be able to run at a given speed at a lesser intensity than person B.




    and for person A and person B to burn the same amount of calories, person A might have to run fast for about 20mins whereas person might only need to walk slow for 20?



    Yeh thats right...but of course it completely depends on fitness, weight isn't a very good indicator of fitness.
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    RE: Intense short session cardio 2005/08/05 22:25:07 (permalink)
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    if this was done first thing in the morning it could be very catabolic

    so for losing weight then in this case, yes, but for succesful BF% reduction whilst retaining muscle, then not my first choice
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    RE: Intense short session cardio 2005/08/06 12:11:39 (permalink)
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    If two 12 stone twins with identical diets had to do 5 laps of a running track and one ran it as fast as he could and the second man walked it as slow as he could; they would have burned the same amount of calories at the end.

    The man who walked would have taken longer and would have burned more fat during the exercise than the man who ran; The man who ran would have been exercising for a shorter time and would have used more carbs during the exercise.

    If it became routine and they did it every day for a few weeks; the man who was running it would be fitter than the man who was walking and because he was fitter would be more likely to burn fat at rest. He would also have burned calories (from fat) after the run because of the EPOC effect that intense exercise causes.

    So I think the man who ran would end up being leaner than the man who walked

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    RE: Intense short session cardio 2005/08/06 12:53:34 (permalink)
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    yep agree mate

    leaner but not assured of retaining muscle mass, so lower weight and BF% but still may have gone catabolic depending on diet and timing

    IMO BF% is key for guys in bodybuilding rather than simply losing weight
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    RE: Intense short session cardio 2005/08/06 13:07:15 (permalink)
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    I would like to say that people who are lean dont have better metabolism then fat people, as fat people burn alot more then a lean person when they are resting.

    if you want to lose weight run for long duration but at a steady speed that keeps your heart rate above 118 ( depending on your age it vares).

    if you want to get fitter then do short burst of sprints.

    i.e. look at 100m runner and a marthone runner.
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    RE: Intense short session cardio 2005/08/06 13:09:59 (permalink)
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    ^^^^

    dont get that

    why 118?

    also a marathon runner will not lift weights to the same degree of a 100mts runner

    also fitter? doing sprints? what is fit? would this make you fit to run 15 miles? fitness for purpose is the key

    losing weight is about creating a calorie deficit, whether this comes from diet, cardio or a combination of both
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