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2009/07/23 14:00:49 (permalink)

Is it ever acceptable to steal?

Inspired by the Tesco thread, I wanted to ask is it ever acceptable to steal?
 
Seems we all regard it as a bit of a lark, stealing from big companies, making a big distinction between that and individuals or small companies.
 
My opinions are much changed on the subject having stolen in the past from my employer, and shops of all descriptions. Now I wouldnt dream of it, and the other day drove back to a shop because I was convinced they had given me £1 too much change(they hadnt).
 
But even here I fall down, would I drive back to Tescos to give them a quid? No, I think they are evil for a start but then dishonest is dishonest right?
 
Not stealing hasn't made me a better person, but I think being a better person has made me not steal.
 
 

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    jacked_fibres
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    Re:Is it ever acceptable to steal? 2009/07/23 14:03:34 (permalink)
    Only time I've ever stole anything is when i wanted a decent meal and whacked some reduced stickers on some decent meat. I felt no guilt because it was tesco.

    Never stole before or after that.

    I'm not really materialistic though.
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    Re:Is it ever acceptable to steal? 2009/07/23 14:04:48 (permalink)
    Also it's their own fault for replacing humans with machines to save more money. Humans are better than machines, also proven by Michael Scott and Dwight in American Office.
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    Re:Is it ever acceptable to steal? 2009/07/23 14:08:26 (permalink)
    I some times knick the odd bit of stuff from Tesco when getting my lunch on my break at work.

    Adds a bit of excitement to my unbelievable dull job.

    Stealing is wrong though but there are much worse things one can do such as violence.
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    Re:Is it ever acceptable to steal? 2009/07/23 14:10:01 (permalink)
    I wouldnt go in a shop to steal something, thats immoral.

    If I was overchanged, thats my good fortune, as I didnt steal it, they handed it over.. thats my view anyway
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    Re:Is it ever acceptable to steal? 2009/07/23 14:14:05 (permalink)
    Faux Real

    I some times knick the odd bit of stuff from Tesco when getting my lunch on my break at work.

    Adds a bit of excitement to my unbelievable dull job.

    Stealing is wrong though but there are much worse things one can do such as violence.


    Comon dude , that is a lame excuse.
     
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    Re:Is it ever acceptable to steal? 2009/07/23 14:19:50 (permalink)
    There are many forms of 'theft'

    The ones that we as individuals are likely to engage in are mostly illegal.

    The ones that large businesses and governments are likely to engage in are mostly legal..

    Id be more inclined to listen to moral arguments if we were all on a level playing field.


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    Re:Is it ever acceptable to steal? 2009/07/23 14:26:35 (permalink)
    tac

    There are many forms of 'theft'

    The ones that we as individuals are likely to engage in are mostly illegal.

    The ones that large businesses and governments are likely to engage in are mostly legal..

    Id be more inclined to listen to moral arguments if we were all on a level playing field.


    Ok Tac, lets just discuss whether, mano a mano theft is ever accpetable?

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    Re:Is it ever acceptable to steal? 2009/07/23 14:29:58 (permalink)
    you drove back to a shop because you thought they had given you £1 too much in change?!

    1) You drove back unsure if they had given you too much change?
    2) You spent more than that driving back in fuel and 'time' wasted

    Seriously, did you do that?!

    Besides the point.....

    I have stolen the odd thing, last weekend i went to Tesco (weird re-occuring theme here?!) and bought a big present bag thing you put birthday presents in...£3.50 for a fecking bag.
    So i popped a smaller one inside it at the same time. Buy 1 get one free.....

    Guilt? No...

    If you place a newspaper on the bottom of your trolley when your loading up the conveyor belt it goes unchecked.

    i eat the sandwhiches round the aisles but i do pay for them and put the wrapper on the belt.

    i have a pick and choose mentality on when its ok to steal.

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    Re:Is it ever acceptable to steal? 2009/07/23 14:30:45 (permalink)
    markfj



    If I was overchanged, thats my good fortune, as I didnt steal it, they handed it over.. thats my view anyway


    Still stealing - you knowingly have taken something that is not yours.

    If you paid me for something and gave me too much cash and I didn't tell you of your mistake, how would you feel?

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    Re:Is it ever acceptable to steal? 2009/07/23 14:34:22 (permalink)
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    tac

    There are many forms of 'theft'

    The ones that we as individuals are likely to engage in are mostly illegal.

    The ones that large businesses and governments are likely to engage in are mostly legal..

    Id be more inclined to listen to moral arguments if we were all on a level playing field.


    Ok Tac, lets just discuss whether, mano a mano theft is ever accpetable?


    sure - its an interesting question


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    Re:Is it ever acceptable to steal? 2009/07/23 14:41:59 (permalink)
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    markfj



    If I was overchanged, thats my good fortune, as I didnt steal it, they handed it over.. thats my view anyway


    Still stealing - you knowingly have taken something that is not yours.

    If you paid me for something and gave me too much cash and I didn't tell you of your mistake, how would you feel?


    I get your point...

    My point is, I myself, have overchanged people, its my fault so tought ****... therefore I get get overchnaged I think the same.

    I dont go in to a shop with the intent to steal though
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    Re:Is it ever acceptable to steal? 2009/07/23 14:53:31 (permalink)
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    Still stealing - you knowingly have taken something that is not yours.

    If you paid me for something and gave me too much cash and I didn't tell you of your mistake, how would you feel?


    Fair enough, but what about on a bigger scale?

    What about multi-million pound supermarkets who put butchers, bakers, book shops out of business because they're so rich and powerful, not only can they sell things at a loss to make it impossible to compete against them, they can even redesign your entire town - deciding what buses will take what routes, where you can park (in the car park they built around their shop) and where you can't park (on the street outside the shop that's forced to close down).

    Or the banks whose greed has caused people to lose their jobs and homes.

    Or the tax system that's designed to keep millions of people as close to the edge of poverty as is possible without civil unrest.

    I'm only going to blindly adhere to a rule that says all stealing is wrong if it applies to all people. 

    I'm not saying I would steal, but I can quite easily justify it happening.
    post edited by symzie - 2009/07/23 15:04:37

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    Re:Is it ever acceptable to steal? 2009/07/23 14:55:27 (permalink)
    Stealing to feed your family?

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    Re:Is it ever acceptable to steal? 2009/07/23 14:59:16 (permalink)
    I've stolen from work before (Tesco) but that only cos they didnt pay me for some overtime i had done, so its my right lol, you non tesco staff have no right stealing!! grrrr :)

    I do a lot of push ups and sit ups. And I drink plenty of milk.

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    Re:Is it ever acceptable to steal? 2009/07/23 15:02:21 (permalink)
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    Still stealing - you knowingly have taken something that is not yours.

    If you paid me for something and gave me too much cash and I didn't tell you of your mistake, how would you feel?


    Fair enough, but what about on a bigger scale?

    What about multi-million pound supermarkets who put butchers, bakers, book shops out of business because they're so rich and powerful, not only can they sell things at a loss to make it impossible to compete against them, they can even redesign your entire town - deciding what buses will take what routes, where you can park (in the car park they built around their shop) and where you can't park (on the street outside the shop that's forced to close down).



    People complain about that, but still end up shopping in them big supermarkets. Why? Because its easier then going to 3/4 different shops.

    I do a lot of push ups and sit ups. And I drink plenty of milk.

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    Re:Is it ever acceptable to steal? 2009/07/23 15:22:37 (permalink)
    Incredible Bulk

    you drove back to a shop because you thought they had given you £1 too much in change?!

    1) You drove back unsure if they had given you too much change?
    2) You spent more than that driving back in fuel and 'time' wasted

    Seriously, did you do that?!

    Besides the point.....

    I have stolen the odd thing, last weekend i went to Tesco (weird re-occuring theme here?!) and bought a big present bag thing you put birthday presents in...£3.50 for a fecking bag.
    So i popped a smaller one inside it at the same time. Buy 1 get one free.....

    Guilt? No...

    If you place a newspaper on the bottom of your trolley when your loading up the conveyor belt it goes unchecked.

    i eat the sandwhiches round the aisles but i do pay for them and put the wrapper on the belt.

    i have a pick and choose mentality on when its ok to steal.

    Yes I did, and whilst in pure economic terms it made no sense it made me feel better. The shop in question is a family run Deli, and it genuinely bothered me.
     
    Funny how life changes you, very unpleasant experiences can have real profound and unexpected effects, a few years ago I wouldn't have given a ****.


    My username has nothing to do with my religious beliefs.....
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    Re:Is it ever acceptable to steal? 2009/07/23 15:34:08 (permalink)
    symzie

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    Still stealing - you knowingly have taken something that is not yours.

    If you paid me for something and gave me too much cash and I didn't tell you of your mistake, how would you feel?


    Fair enough, but what about on a bigger scale?

    What about multi-million pound supermarkets who put butchers, bakers, book shops out of business because they're so rich and powerful, not only can they sell things at a loss to make it impossible to compete against them, they can even redesign your entire town - deciding what buses will take what routes, where you can park (in the car park they built around their shop) and where you can't park (on the street outside the shop that's forced to close down).

    Or the banks whose greed has caused people to lose their jobs and homes.

    Or the tax system that's designed to keep millions of people as close to the edge of poverty as is possible without civil unrest.

    I'm only going to blindly adhere to a rule that says all stealing is wrong if it applies to all people. 

    I'm not saying I would steal, but I can quite easily justify it happening.


    that's not necessarily stealing, but it is unethical.

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    Re:Is it ever acceptable to steal? 2009/07/23 15:37:13 (permalink)
    i used to be in loss prevention so i dont agree with it myself,unless like your kids are starving etc

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    Re:Is it ever acceptable to steal? 2009/07/23 15:53:34 (permalink)
    I don't steal, not even from Tescos. If someone forgets to ask me to pay for something I'll remind them (happened the other day when ordering food).

    My line of thought is that if I can afford to pay for it so why would I steal it? Why risk being caught and shamed for a matter of pennies or pounds?

    I wonder how many people in this thread really need to steal the things they admit to?


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