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2015/01/27 00:28:02 (permalink)
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Is it legally possible to declare your home an independent state?

Very theoretical question here but if i decided to, would I be able to declare my property an independent state?

I.e. If one was to set yourself up, denounce UK citizenship and go it alone?

I know there would be huuuuuge issues with stuff like currency, defence & energy but this is purely from a legal point of view

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Re: Is it legally possible to declare your home an independent state? 2015/01/27 00:51:04 (permalink)
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No.  Technically the Queen (the monarch, not Gok Wan) owns your house, the land beneath it, the lot.  When you sell it you can pass the title, but not the lands.  Effectively she is the landlady for the nation - we're just letting (or sub-letting, or in a few cases sub-sub-letting) our properties.
 
Or should I say, HER properties.
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Re: Is it legally possible to declare your home an independent state? 2015/01/27 01:35:26 (permalink)
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Bastards. I was well up for starting my own nation state.
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Re: Is it legally possible to declare your home an independent state? 2015/01/27 02:03:07 (permalink)
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Yep, life (and her Maj) is a bitch. 
 
Tell you what - Marie Byrd Land is Terra Nullius, meaning no-mans land.  There's over half a million square miles of it - all yours for the taking, you just have to down sticks and set yourself up there, inform the UN you've taken it over, happy days.
 
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Re: Is it legally possible to declare your home an independent state? 2015/01/27 08:53:47 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby The_Lone_Wolf 2015/01/27 10:38:00
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Peter Griffin tried it lol

 
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Re: Is it legally possible to declare your home an independent state? 2015/01/27 09:37:31 (permalink)
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Pretty sure secassion is treated like treason.
 
Which is sort of a matter of perspective. Ultimately sovereignty boils down to a matter of being capable of defending a territory through violence. If you had an army of your own you could just take the territory and call it your state, without it the Queen will just crush you lol. If you had an army big enough you could conquer all of England and then you'd be the head of state, the Queen would be the traitor if she didn't accept your rule.
 
Funny how the world works. Even the most civilized countries are built upon pillars of violence, it's the only language everyone understands.
post edited by Uriel - 2015/01/27 09:40:46
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Re: Is it legally possible to declare your home an independent state? 2015/01/27 10:38:17 (permalink)
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Peter Griffin tried it lol




I do love Family guy haha.

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Re: Is it legally possible to declare your home an independent state? 2015/01/27 21:06:05 (permalink)
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Scotland tried it.
 
Republic Ireland managed it.
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Re: Is it legally possible to declare your home an independent state? 2015/01/27 21:18:34 (permalink)
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Been tried by danny wallace
theres a documentary about it


 
 
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Re: Is it legally possible to declare your home an independent state? 2015/01/27 22:17:24 (permalink)
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No.  Technically the Queen (the monarch, not Gok Wan) owns your house, the land beneath it, the lot.  When you sell it you can pass the title, but not the lands.  Effectively she is the landlady for the nation - we're just letting (or sub-letting, or in a few cases sub-sub-letting) our properties.
 
Or should I say, HER properties.


shhhh , people think she's just little old lady who acts as a figure head .
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Re: Is it legally possible to declare your home an independent state? 2015/01/28 14:11:32 (permalink)
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Uriel
Pretty sure secassion is treated like treason.
 
Which is sort of a matter of perspective. Ultimately sovereignty boils down to a matter of being capable of defending a territory through violence. If you had an army of your own you could just take the territory and call it your state, without it the Queen will just crush you lol. If you had an army big enough you could conquer all of England and then you'd be the head of state, the Queen would be the traitor if she didn't accept your rule.
 
Funny how the world works. Even the most civilized countries are built upon pillars of violence, it's the only language everyone understands.




I wonder if you could try saying the head of my army will fight the head of your army for the right for me to declare my own property its own state.
Then find a way to get the Queen to be the one who has to fight you one on one, as touching on one of the other current threads here, I train and therefore I reckon I am bigger and stronger than the Queen.
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