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2004/03/01 22:05:17 (permalink)
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Is it too much

Hi, long time listener, first time caller. I was just wondering wether my training schedual is too much? basically I do legs,biceps and chest one day with 4 chest exercises and 3 for biceps and legs one day followed by shoulders,back and triceps 4 exercises for shoulders, 3 for the rest the next day. Each split is done twice a week.
I weigh 80kgs, 5'10 about 15% body fat and have been training about 6 months. Any feed back would be much appreciated.
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    genetic disaster
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    RE: Is it too much 2004/03/01 23:38:43 (permalink)
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    imo its far too much... common split is chest,triceps/back biceps/off/legs/delts,traps. if you have only been training for 6 months, you should really be using an abreviated routine.training each body part once a week
    could go into more detail with a full routine, but a) i should be charging, and b) am just about to hop into bed, am shattered.
    have a search threw old posts, am sure you will find a few routines outlined.
    good luck
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    RE: Is it too much 2004/03/02 03:40:44 (permalink)
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    charging...lol...dont worry fiddler i'll help u out for free...

    Welcome to MT.....bout time u posted...now u can get ur questions answered directly...

    so imo u should do something like mentioned about except switch around the back and chest days, squating and deadlifting are too close together...having said that try something like this:

    Pull -
    Deadlifts
    Chins
    Bent Over rows

    Push -
    Incline Bench
    Dips
    Standing Military Press

    Legs/Abs
    Front Squats
    SLDL
    Weighted Crunches

    This is basically like Frankie's and J5's....if you have been training about 6 months seriously then you can go 5x5, if not u can do 3x8 for a bit...you can do some cardio on off days, hiit or normal....what are your goals exactly.....hope u got ur diet in check as well...hope this helps
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    genetic disaster
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    RE: Is it too much 2004/03/02 10:25:46 (permalink)
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    what are your goals fiddler? this routine looks pretty good.one thing i would add though, i would like to see a set or two of plate pullovers after/in between squats. wasnt joking about charging though.. breaking into the personal training here, i seem to spend about 3-4 hours a day in front of the computer answering e mails etc, giving out free advice... 4 hours is £100 to me, you know what i mean....


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    RE: Is it too much 2004/03/02 10:28:42 (permalink)
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    mate dont bother then. a lot of people on here give a huge amount of time helping other people and they dont go on about how much they could have made. not really the attitude for a free board is it?
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    RE: Is it too much 2004/03/02 12:05:45 (permalink)
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    You're not the only one who is a PT on here, if you dont want to post you dont have to.

    Personally i like helping people as best i can, learning off others who know more than me and its better than Trisha of a morning!
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    RE: Is it too much 2004/03/02 14:05:51 (permalink)
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    hes from Ireland, leave him alone :p
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    RE: Is it too much 2004/03/02 15:58:53 (permalink)
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    Read my beginners sticky at the top of this beginners forum, it also lists a couple of excellent routines that I have based my few years of training & gaining on. It works and works well... oh and it won't cost you a penny
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    genetic disaster
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    RE: Is it too much 2004/03/02 23:05:54 (permalink)
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    you guys picked me up wrong... havent been on this board for very long, but i feel like i have contributed quite a bit. yes,i like a board of this kind where all sorts of people are on, everyone can learn as well as pass on their kowledge... and there is nothing that makes a person feel as good as having that warm feeling of having helped someone and seen results in someone..
    i am sure i am not the only PT on the board.. i have been toying with the idea of setting up a web site to compliment my work, where i can offer the service of personalised diets, routines etc..
    nothing against this thread starter, but sometimes i wonder what i am doing, when i give somebody 1/2 an hour or more of my time, writing out a specific routine or whatever, when the person in question has been like, 'i have been training for 3 months, i am not getting any bigger, somebody give me a routine....' no details or effort on their part.
    i am getting things very tight at the minute, was just mouthing off i guess.. if i was putting the time i put into the computer into a paying client, then i would be bringing in an extra 100 a day. would be kinda usefull.
    so appologies if i offended some of you or whatever, was not my intention.
    i get a kick out of helping folk, paid or not.
    good luck
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    RE: Is it too much 2004/03/03 00:30:26 (permalink)
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    genetic disaster, I took no offence to your reply. I was just after a quick answer to question. I didnt want or ask for anyone to sit down and nut out a routine for me just a quick " maybe you should try a 3 day split" would of sufficed.
    Everyones gotta start somewhere.
    IMO i thought i gave relevant info on where i'm at. as for my goals, just like everyone else, I want to move mountains.
    Good luck with the PA and website. oh and by the way, do you take aussie dollars?
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    RE: Is it too much 2004/03/03 05:12:03 (permalink)
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    Hey fiddler, it's DMPM here.

    Check the routine youngitalianbabe mentioned, it's excellent.
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    RE: Is it too much 2004/03/03 05:19:39 (permalink)
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    BTW, I'd do that routine at 3x8 for a few months before moving to 4x6 or 5x5.
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    RE: Is it too much 2004/03/03 05:40:44 (permalink)
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    I keep hearing mixed reviews for push pull. anyway I'm going to change my routine to a chest/tricep day 1,back/bicep day 2 etc,etc. and incoporate some exercises that have been given to me and what i have learnt. it was time for another change in exercises as the ones i was doing I was begining to become efficient in.
    Thanks for all the advice and help. I'll try 3x8 as I'm a strong believer in proper technique over anything.
    Hows london treating you dmpm?
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    RE: Is it too much 2004/03/03 06:20:12 (permalink)
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    I live in Melbourne mate.
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    RE: Is it too much 2004/03/03 11:57:22 (permalink)
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    LOL
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    RE: Is it too much 2004/03/03 21:43:57 (permalink)
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    try back/bi first so that u get more rest before leg day, as i think you're doing deads on back and squats and SLDL on leg day....so i suggest putting more than one day in between...thats my opinion
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    RE: Is it too much 2004/03/03 21:54:20 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by youngitalianbabe

    try back/bi first so that u get more rest before leg day, as i think you're doing deads on back and squats and SLDL on leg day....so i suggest putting more than one day in between...thats my opinion

    such knowledge from one so young
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    RE: Is it too much 2004/03/03 21:55:41 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by genetic disaster

    imo its far too much... common split is chest,triceps/back biceps/off/legs/delts,traps. if you have only been training for 6 months, you should really be using an abreviated routine.training each body part once a week
    could go into more detail with a full routine, but a) i should be charging, and b) am just about to hop into bed, am shattered.
    have a search threw old posts, am sure you will find a few routines outlined.
    good luck

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    RE: Is it too much 2004/03/03 22:06:50 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by pete66

    quote:
    Originally posted by youngitalianbabe

    try back/bi first so that u get more rest before leg day, as i think you're doing deads on back and squats and SLDL on leg day....so i suggest putting more than one day in between...thats my opinion

    such knowledge from one so young


    [:I]...i try
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    RE: Is it too much 2004/03/04 11:31:44 (permalink)
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    see when you ly on the bench where it slopes down and your feet are kinda locked under a bar at the high end of the bench and your head is at the bottom end next to the floor to do crunches;

    1. whats that bech called?

    2. and having your feet locked behind a bar and used to pull you up - is that not kinda cheating for doing abs?

    3. is it better tahn doing normal 'flat' crunches?

    david*



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