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Joe Rogan Podcast With Endo Dr Mark Gordon

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2014/11/15 17:23:35 (permalink)

Joe Rogan Podcast With Endo Dr Mark Gordon

I think a few on here might have an interest in listening to this. Very good info from Mark Gordon with regards to hormone replacement with regards to aging and also from brain trauma.
 
He is on episodes 574 and 438
 
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-joe-rogan-experience/id360084272?mt=2
 
 

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    Re: Joe Rogan Podcast With Endo Dr Mark Gordon 2014/11/15 21:38:25 (permalink)
    a brief overview of what he says? i dont do itunes



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    Re: Joe Rogan Podcast With Endo Dr Mark Gordon 2014/11/15 23:10:24 (permalink)
    He's basically a big proponent of people who are suffering from depression etc getting blood work done to check hormone levels. He has an ex navy Seal on with him who was diagnosed with PTSD and was basically pumped full of all sorts of meds until he heard Mark Gordon on Rogans show and went to him for tests. After being diagnosed with low T probably due to head trauma he received after repeated incidents in training for the military he got on TRT and he has now ceased most of his meds apart from a small dose of pain killers.
    A lot of discussion on head trauma for guys in NFL, MMA etc. Its all stuff I find really interesting.

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    Re: Joe Rogan Podcast With Endo Dr Mark Gordon 2014/11/17 21:47:55 (permalink)
    Have heard both those episodes. Pretty interesting but is common sense really. Impacts on the pituitary are bound to affect test given its function.
     
    I also like the fact that he pointed out that TRT solved numerous health issues with just 60mg a week of test. EG- some men are walking corpses with no energy, no sex drive, mental fog, weight problems, mental problems, depression, diabetes and high cholesterol levels. Most of which are caused or exasperated by low testosterone.
     
    Kind of made Endos over here look utterly clueless. I don't hold much hope for my endo appointment! 
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    Re: Joe Rogan Podcast With Endo Dr Mark Gordon 2014/11/17 23:56:57 (permalink)
    Yeah the levels of test replacement were really low, and I could be wrong here but I think they are low so your natural system does not shut down totally.
    I have to say that during my own stint on trt my last go at it was to reduce myself to about just <100mg a week which really did seem to clear a few things including the foggyness in my head. So much so that it lead me to come off altogether.

    It is common sense as you say but over here I believe we are miles behind the US in understanding hormone replacement. Some of the stuff my endo says stuns me at times.

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    Re: 2014/11/18 06:51:57 (permalink)
    I think you'd still be shut down on 60mg a week. 100-150mg a week is a true trt dose. We are a million miles behind the US , both GP's I've seen have dismissed my low test. Its only recently a GP has accepted my levels are " a little low" as he put it. Finally after 3/4 years of this **** I've got an appointment with an Endo.



    I'm just hoping the Endo is better than my GP

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    Re: 2014/11/19 06:51:03 (permalink)
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    I think you'd still be shut down on 60mg a week. 100-150mg a week is a true trt dose. We are a million miles behind the US , both GP's I've seen have dismissed my low test. Its only recently a GP has accepted my levels are " a little low" as he put it. Finally after 3/4 years of this **** I've got an appointment with an Endo.



    I'm just hoping the Endo is better than my GP





    Good luck... I paid privately for an endo, who turns out is on the medical board for endo's (or whatever its called) and wrote books on it... still a no-go afterwards!

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    Re: 2014/11/19 07:31:02 (permalink)
    What was your level mate?



    I've got little confidence to be honest as I've heard of many people hitting a brick wall with levels of around 7.



    I've resigned to the fact I'll be doing self administered if the Endo is unwilling to help. I'm not going to carry on as a walking corpse. Have to take my health into my own hands.



    That said I am going to give the NHS a chance

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    Re: 2014/11/20 08:00:53 (permalink)
    Aged 27 I was -
    Test MS - 16 nmol/L
    SHBG - 21 nmol/L
    Free Test - 412 pmol/L
    LH - 2.4 U/L
    Oestradiol - 69 pmol/L
    Prolactin - 249 mU/L

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    Re: 2014/11/20 08:09:56 (permalink)
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    Aged 27 I was -
    Test MS - 16 nmol/L
    SHBG - 21 nmol/L
    Free Test - 412 pmol/L
    LH - 2.4 U/L
    Oestradiol - 69 pmol/L
    Prolactin - 249 mU/L



    Well there is the problem, no doctor in the country is going to prescibe you TRT with a level of 16. I've been to my GP a few times and a level of 11-14 has generally had him telling me they will not refer me.
     
    Its only since my levels have dropped to the very bottom of the NHS 'normal range' have I had a referral. Still even with my levels as they are (which are below 10) I doubt I'll get treatment
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