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2015/02/16 13:42:13 (permalink)
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Just ordered some Phenibut

I heard about it a while back but only just decided to order some mainly just to feel what it's like (It might also be because watched 'Limitless' the other day lol).
 
I've read that it's effects are similar to Valium and when I took Valium years ago I felt amazing, so I'm mainly hoping it will just improve my mood without making me high (I drive for a living so I don't want to be buzzing my tits off).
 
Anyone used it before? Is it as good as they say? overrated?

   
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Re: Just ordered some Phenibut 2015/02/16 13:46:47 (permalink)
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Yes I like it , chills me out without affecting mental capacity. 
Tolerance can build up so best not to use on a daily basis. 
Doses vary a lot so its best to find your own "sweet spot" with it. 
I find it excellent to use for nights out ,  bit like "MDMA Lite" but more controllable.
Also good for improved sleep used with some Melatonin and GABA . 

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Re: Just ordered some Phenibut 2015/02/17 01:07:35 (permalink)
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yes, it is good, effects vary by individual though. welcome to the world of nootropics.
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Re: Just ordered some Phenibut 2015/02/17 10:27:48 (permalink)
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Anyone used it whilst on PCT (Nolva)? I can't seem to find any info on whether or not they interact/interfere with each other.

   
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Re: Just ordered some Phenibut 2015/02/17 10:53:04 (permalink)
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Anyone used it whilst on PCT (Nolva)? I can't seem to find any info on whether or not they interact/interfere with each other.




This something I am currently looking into as I have recently started using Phenibut again. 
I can`t see that there would be any interaction as they work on different systems in the body. I can see Phenibut being very effective for alleviating the "PCT blues "  

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Re: Just ordered some Phenibut 2015/02/17 11:13:11 (permalink)
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never tried it but have heard it can easily become addictive and withdrawal is a bitch, much like valium apparently.
 
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Re: Just ordered some Phenibut 2015/02/17 12:33:25 (permalink)
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Never experienced that myself and I have an addictive personality. 
I believe it could be effective as substitute to many substances for people trying to kick addictions. 
There are a lot of over excited comments on Phenibut floating about; one has to wonder what other substances the writers are using 
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Re: Just ordered some Phenibut 2015/02/18 15:08:46 (permalink)
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It arrived today (the smell when I first opened it... whoa), I've just thrown 350mg in my post workout shake, so I'll report back when/if it kicks in.
 
 

   
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Re: Just ordered some Phenibut 2015/02/18 18:17:34 (permalink)
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It arrived today (the smell when I first opened it... whoa), I've just thrown 350mg in my post workout shake, so I'll report back when/if it kicks in.
 
 


ill be interested in your thoughts on this one.



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Re: Just ordered some Phenibut 2015/02/18 18:45:13 (permalink)
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It had no effect whatsoever, disappointing. I guess I'll up the dose to 1050mg next time (the scoop is 350mg).
 
I'm wondering if it would be better to put the powder straight in my mouth and just chase it with water because maybe too much of it stuck to the side of my shaker (like Creatine normally does) as it's such a tiny amount of powder.
 
What dose have some of you guys used? better on an empty stomach? with Caffeine?
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Re: Just ordered some Phenibut 2015/02/18 19:10:22 (permalink)
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It had no effect whatsoever, disappointing. I guess I'll up the dose to 1050mg next time (the scoop is 350mg).
 
I'm wondering if it would be better to put the powder straight in my mouth and just chase it with water because maybe too much of it stuck to the side of my shaker (like Creatine normally does) as it's such a tiny amount of powder.
 
What dose have some of you guys used? better on an empty stomach? with Caffeine?

I dosed it up to 1500mg with zero effect and tried two different suppliers.Valium on the other Hand is night and day compared to it
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Re: Just ordered some Phenibut 2015/02/20 17:14:32 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby redwing 2015/02/20 17:58:08
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It had no effect whatsoever, disappointing. I guess I'll up the dose to 1050mg next time (the scoop is 350mg).
 
I'm wondering if it would be better to put the powder straight in my mouth and just chase it with water because maybe too much of it stuck to the side of my shaker (like Creatine normally does) as it's such a tiny amount of powder.
 
What dose have some of you guys used? better on an empty stomach? with Caffeine?

I dosed it up to 1500mg with zero effect and tried two different suppliers.Valium on the other Hand is night and day compared to it

Damn, I guess it's just one of those things that don't do anything for some people. I took 1050mg a few hours ago, nothing again.
 
I'm going to do 1750mg tomorrow morning on an empty stomach with some coffee and If I still feel nothing I'll just have to except that I'm a non responder.
 
Not sure whether to just throw it out (if I don't feel anything) or carry on taking anyway, as it supposedly increases HGH (at least then it won't feel like a complete waste of money).
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Re: Just ordered some Phenibut 2015/02/21 09:59:33 (permalink)
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Holy crap, wow! What I wrote above done the trick, if anyone else struggled to feel anything then:-
1. Up the dose (1750mg seemed about right for me)
2. Take it on an empty stomach
3. Mix it in a small glass of water (it dissolves instantly with a little stir), it does taste awful though, like speed srs (very chemically) 
4. Take it with a coffee (or any other form of caffeine) 
 
It took a couple of hours to kick in but I feel great. It's effects are like a mix between Valium and Amphetamines (without the sides e.g. loss of appetite) imo. Lots of energy but at the same time I feel really relaxed (like nothing could bother me), good times.
 
I'm hoping the effects last for the day, I'm going to have a few beers later as that apparently intensifies the feeling (and it's the weekend).
I'm not sure what effect it will have on my workout (apparently it's not a good idea to take it pre workout) but I'm about to find out... (*will edit to let you know). 
 
*nope, no negative effect on the workout, If anything it felt like I could train harder.
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Re: Just ordered some Phenibut 2015/02/21 14:48:51 (permalink)
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I just eat it out of the scoop and swill it down, it is probably getting lost in the shake. 
Not the best taste but still. 
Try taking at different times I find first thing is best for me ; scoop it in then chase it down with coffee. 

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Re: Just ordered some Phenibut 2015/02/21 15:04:29 (permalink)
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What's the purpose of phenibut? 
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Re: Just ordered some Phenibut 2015/02/21 15:17:00 (permalink)
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What's the purpose of phenibut? 


It has many uses/effects,  user dependant , 
Can be used as a mild anti depressant, anti anxiety, some find it reduces appetite. 
If you do search in Nootropic related forums there is a lot of information available, although not all of it is reliable. 

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Re: Just ordered some Phenibut 2015/02/21 16:13:06 (permalink)
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It has no use in a training sense?
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Re: Just ordered some Phenibut 2015/02/21 16:33:56 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby newcastle 2015/02/21 17:02:52
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It has no use in a training sense?

It does have use in a training sense but I decided to take it mainly just because it sounded interesting i.e. I liked the sound of the other effects.. relaxation/calmness, stress relieving, euphoria (however as I mentioned in my previous post it did seem to benefit my training):-
 
The following is from http://bayesianbodybuildi...enibut-dosage-effects/
  • Phenibut can increase resting and post-exercise growth hormone secretion. In a study of weight training men, GABA supplementation increased resting growth hormone concentrations by 375%. Post-exercise growth hormone concentration rose by 175%. Baclofen, which works almost exactly the same as Phenibut, also increases growth hormone synthesis. 
  • Phenibut is anti-hypoxic. When you train a muscle intensely, it can’t get enough oxygen anymore and become hypoxic. This metabolic stress mediates muscle hypertrophy. Phenibut may thus increase your tolerance to metabolic stress and allow you to train harder. 
  • Phenibut is neuroprotective and augments cell energy potential, again possibly allowing you to train harder.
 
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Re: Just ordered some Phenibut 2015/02/23 09:10:30 (permalink)
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I would agree with the fact that it can improve recovery, it can improve quality of sleep similar to GABA. 
Some users find it is an effective appetite suppressant so it can help with cutting.
Also can improve mood while cutting back on carbohydrates 
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Re: Just ordered some Phenibut 2015/02/23 12:56:35 (permalink)
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nootropics are a good branch of sports nutrition, have many benefits. 
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