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2016/11/14 08:11:09 (permalink)
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LGD-4033 + MK-677

Hi all,
I'm currently running a 6 week cycle of LGD-4033 (Ligandrol) + MK-677 (Ibutamoren) using Olympus Labs Mass GH (SARM), not as PCT but just as a trail before taking a PH. Detail on MASS GH - http://www.predatornutrition.com/sarms/olympus-labs/mass-gh.html
 
The daily dosage it reccommends is 2 capsules, which means a total of 8mg Ligandrol and 20mg Ibutamoren per day. I've been running this for a week now, and can't really say I've felt much if anything different whilst being on it. No or next to no hunger increase which Ibutamoren I gather does, my weight has gone up very slightly.

My current stats are, 6ft 5" tall, 278lbs, 29yrs old, 17% bf. My diet is clean and I'm eating well, lifting heavy as well. My question is, should I try increasing my dosage to 3 capsules a day? Which would be 12mg Ligandrol and 30mg Ibutamoren.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: LGD-4033 + MK-677 2016/11/14 17:57:07 (permalink)
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Wait another week and than rump it up, sarms are not magic pills and take some time to 'feel' per se

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Re: LGD-4033 + MK-677 2016/11/15 19:05:08 (permalink)
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Yes, very little feel.
Weight gains will be slow but consistent. More of an increased recovery.
MK doesn't always increase hunger. First two tubs didn't, third sent it through the roof about half way through for a week.
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Re: LGD-4033 + MK-677 2016/11/19 18:12:40 (permalink)
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Thanks both. Now that I'm nearing the end of my second week on it, I'm starting to notice improvements in how much I'm lifting and recovery time. Think I'll still up the dosage from 2 caps to 3 caps per day starting next week (week 3). Two other questios:
  1. Does it matter if I take my cycle support at the same time, or should it be at a different time, e.g. 2hrs later?
  2. It states I need to run a PCT. Would somelike like Olympus Labs Sup3r PCT be okay, as it has estro blocker, test booster and aromatase inhibitors. Or would you advise a another PCT product + a SERM like Nolvadex?
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Re: LGD-4033 + MK-677 2016/11/19 18:19:18 (permalink)
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Shouldn't matter with the cycle support.
Pct, yes, SERM.
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Re: LGD-4033 + MK-677 2016/11/20 05:23:07 (permalink)
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^this
LGD is know to be suppresive so Nolva is a g2g

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Re: LGD-4033 + MK-677 2016/12/05 22:18:59 (permalink)
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Updates?
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Re: LGD-4033 + MK-677 2016/12/09 06:25:34 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby jw390898 2016/12/09 06:39:04
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He's to big to type now😎

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Re: LGD-4033 + MK-677 2016/12/09 06:39:50 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby simonboyle 2016/12/09 09:15:59
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He's to big to type now😎

That or the added strength resulted in breaking his keyboard.
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Re: LGD-4033 + MK-677 2016/12/09 10:29:55 (permalink)
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Boom

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Re: LGD-4033 + MK-677 2016/12/15 00:28:48 (permalink)
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Re: LGD-4033 + MK-677 2016/12/15 05:17:22 (permalink)
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Lol

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Re: LGD-4033 + MK-677 2016/12/15 08:47:47 (permalink)
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HULK Smash
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Re: LGD-4033 + MK-677 2017/01/09 12:58:24 (permalink)
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Hey. Sorry its taken a while to get back. Love the Hulk on a laptop image, lol!
 
So I ran a 5 week cycle in total, 6th week I came down with a bad cold/virus which semt to be going around most people at work which was annoying as I was out of training for 2 weeks.
 
So ran a 5 week cycle, 2 tablets per day of Mass GH by Olympus Labs, then 3 tablets per day for the remaining 3 weeks. I didn't really notice anything untill about 10 day in, then felt like I had more energy / strength in the gym. Lifts went up nicely. From week 2 to week 5 bench press went up 15kg, deadlift up by 30kg, squat up by 20kg, leg press up by 50kg. The weight for all exercises went up, mainly the big compound lifts. Isolation exercises only went up slighly in comparison.
 
Overall I was pleased with my experience of running LGD + MK677. My body weight went up 4kg, which unforts after being ill and not eating much I lost some of that weight. However think if I hadn't been ill I would have kept the weight.
 
For anyone wanting to use a SARM and to test the waters before trying a PH like I did, I'd deffo reccomend giving it a go. My hunger levels did go up slightly, but not massivly like some people state when on MK677. I did feel a bit low/down mentally once I upped the dosage to 3 tablets per day, not sure if that's the effects from the LGD or MK677 or the girlfriend being a pain in the ass at that time, but back to normal now after complete PCT.
 
In March I think I might step it up and try a PH, something like Epistane maybe or M-Sten.
 
 
post edited by tall_lifter - 2017/01/09 13:05:39
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Re: LGD-4033 + MK-677 2017/01/09 20:56:44 (permalink)
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Should keep the weight if maintaining diet as not really any water retention on it
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Re: LGD-4033 + MK-677 2017/01/10 00:17:37 (permalink)
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Hey. Sorry its taken a while to get back. Love the Hulk on a laptop image, lol!
 
So I ran a 5 week cycle in total, 6th week I came down with a bad cold/virus which semt to be going around most people at work which was annoying as I was out of training for 2 weeks.
 
So ran a 5 week cycle, 2 tablets per day of Mass GH by Olympus Labs, then 3 tablets per day for the remaining 3 weeks. I didn't really notice anything untill about 10 day in, then felt like I had more energy / strength in the gym. Lifts went up nicely. From week 2 to week 5 bench press went up 15kg, deadlift up by 30kg, squat up by 20kg, leg press up by 50kg. The weight for all exercises went up, mainly the big compound lifts. Isolation exercises only went up slighly in comparison.
 
Overall I was pleased with my experience of running LGD + MK677. My body weight went up 4kg, which unforts after being ill and not eating much I lost some of that weight. However think if I hadn't been ill I would have kept the weight.
 
For anyone wanting to use a SARM and to test the waters before trying a PH like I did, I'd deffo reccomend giving it a go. My hunger levels did go up slightly, but not massivly like some people state when on MK677. I did feel a bit low/down mentally once I upped the dosage to 3 tablets per day, not sure if that's the effects from the LGD or MK677 or the girlfriend being a pain in the ass at that time, but back to normal now after complete PCT.
 
In March I think I might step it up and try a PH, something like Epistane maybe or M-Sten.
 
 

I would suggest it may be from suppression from the LGD.
Yeah. Good combo and results are clear huh?
People still want to say sarms and MK are rubbish though. Clearly not
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Re: LGD-4033 + MK-677 2017/01/10 19:06:50 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby simonboyle 2017/01/11 13:27:54
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I would suggest it may be from suppression from the LGD.
Yeah. Good combo and results are clear huh?
People still want to say sarms and MK are rubbish though. Clearly not



Yeah good combo. If I was to do it again, think I'd maybe buy the LGD and MK-677 seperately rather than using Mass GH which the two are combined in each tablet, just so you can choose your own dosage of each. If there's a suppment that could help the suppresion, then might be good to add that in during the cycle.
 
Depends what you're after really. SARMS and MK aren't going to give you big gains like on Tren etc, however if you're after something less harsh then it's a good way to go I think. I used it to help get over a plateau, and that it certainly did.
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Re: LGD-4033 + MK-677 2017/01/11 08:22:20 (permalink)
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^ What dose would you go for if dosing sperately then having had experience now?
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Re: LGD-4033 + MK-677 2017/01/11 18:31:38 (permalink)
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^ What dose would you go for if dosing sperately then having had experience now?


I think the dosage in Mass GH was about right, just would have been nice to cut back on the LGD when the supression kicked in. So 12mg LGD, 30mg MK, or 10mg LGD depending on mg per capsule.
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Re: LGD-4033 + MK-677 2017/01/13 11:30:05 (permalink)
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interesting
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