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2014/10/24 16:25:36 (permalink)

LOG: DermaTrest - lean bulk

CYCLE PLAN:
45-50-Days
DermaTrest 100mg ed bumping to 125mg after a couple of weeks. 
TransForm 50-100mg ed for duration.
Nolva: 10mg ed on cycle.
PCT:
Nolva: 20/20/10/10/10/5/5
Tranform and/or atd will likely be used in pct but not decided how yet.
 
GOAL:
Looking to lean bulk and hopefully finish pct up 8-9 lbs with minimal fat gain.
 
At the moment just looking to run a simple cycle although no doubt I'll be tempted to throw in an oral. 
hopefully trest lives up to the hype :)
 
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Re: LOG: DermaTrest - lean bulk 2014/10/24 17:21:27 (permalink)
When was your last exogenous hormone or nolva pill?

K
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Re: LOG: DermaTrest - lean bulk 2014/10/24 17:49:05 (permalink)
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When was your last exogenous hormone or nolva pill?

K

I'm about 3 months post PCT.
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Re: LOG: DermaTrest - lean bulk 2014/10/24 17:53:03 (permalink)
So its trest,good to see a log have a blast;-)

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Re: LOG: DermaTrest - lean bulk 2014/10/24 19:10:12 (permalink)
Nice one Dave will follow. Nolva on cycle? Expecting titties?
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Re: LOG: DermaTrest - lean bulk 2014/10/24 20:20:39 (permalink)
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Nice one Dave will follow. Nolva on cycle? Expecting titties?


Lol, well its my first run with a wet compound so as I've got the nolva I thought I'd air on the side of caution. 
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Re: LOG: DermaTrest - lean bulk 2014/10/25 20:28:20 (permalink)
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When was your last exogenous hormone or nolva pill?

K

I'm about 3 months post PCT.


OK. Not too bad. Was just thinking of your post PCT struggle last time, and there is a lot to be said at allowing your body to re stabilise. I suspect 3 months is a bare minimum but given a 2 month (8 week) cycle and (hopefully) a 6 week PCT then you'd be looking at 4 or 5 month off. Every month off (assuming you got a good reinstatement of natty test) is a bonus.

Just saying, that's all.

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Re: LOG: DermaTrest - lean bulk 2014/10/26 11:55:42 (permalink)
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When was your last exogenous hormone or nolva pill?

K

I'm about 3 months post PCT.


OK. Not too bad. Was just thinking of your post PCT struggle last time, and there is a lot to be said at allowing your body to re stabilise. I suspect 3 months is a bare minimum but given a 2 month (8 week) cycle and (hopefully) a 6 week PCT then you'd be looking at 4 or 5 month off. Every month off (assuming you got a good reinstatement of natty test) is a bonus.

Just saying, that's all.

K

Yeah I guessed that's what you were thinking. I agree its on the edge time off wise,  but the conclusion I came to regarding my post pct issues last time was that the trouble was primarily not cycle related. Once the work issues were improved so was everything else.
 
And thanks again for the advice you gave at the time, its very much appreciated :)
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Re: LOG: DermaTrest - lean bulk 2014/10/26 12:00:42 (permalink)
Update. 
 
So 3 days in, I started on 50mg on day 1 and found some noticeable spikes in temperature and started seeing stars. Strange, lol.
 
With the above in mind I decided to keep at 50mg for the first few days and see how I feel. The last couple of days there's been no stars just slight raised temp so I'll probably up it to 62.5mg tomorrow and up it like that as I see fit. 
 
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Re: LOG: DermaTrest - lean bulk 2014/10/26 14:55:14 (permalink)
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Update. 
 
So 3 days in, I started on 50mg on day 1 and found some noticeable spikes in temperature and started seeing stars. Strange, lol.
 
With the above in mind I decided to keep at 50mg for the first few days and see how I feel. The last couple of days there's been no stars just slight raised temp so I'll probably up it to 62.5mg tomorrow and up it like that as I see fit. 
 
Dave
 




If it's a transdermal and i pump is equal to 2ml which is 100mg how can you control your exact dose to 62.5mg?
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Re: LOG: DermaTrest - lean bulk 2014/10/26 17:29:20 (permalink)
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Update. 
 
So 3 days in, I started on 50mg on day 1 and found some noticeable spikes in temperature and started seeing stars. Strange, lol.
 
With the above in mind I decided to keep at 50mg for the first few days and see how I feel. The last couple of days there's been no stars just slight raised temp so I'll probably up it to 62.5mg tomorrow and up it like that as I see fit. 
 
Dave
 




If it's a transdermal and i pump is equal to 2ml which is 100mg how can you control your exact dose to 62.5mg?


I picked up an oral syringe off ebay, makes measuring much easier although it is a bit fiddly. The pump that come with is useless unless looking for 2ml at a time.
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Re: LOG: DermaTrest - lean bulk 2014/10/26 20:20:41 (permalink)
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When was your last exogenous hormone or nolva pill?

K

I'm about 3 months post PCT.


OK. Not too bad. Was just thinking of your post PCT struggle last time, and there is a lot to be said at allowing your body to re stabilise. I suspect 3 months is a bare minimum but given a 2 month (8 week) cycle and (hopefully) a 6 week PCT then you'd be looking at 4 or 5 month off. Every month off (assuming you got a good reinstatement of natty test) is a bonus.

Just saying, that's all.

K

Yeah I guessed that's what you were thinking. I agree its on the edge time off wise,  but the conclusion I came to regarding my post pct issues last time was that the trouble was primarily not cycle related. Once the work issues were improved so was everything else.
 
And thanks again for the advice you gave at the time, its very much appreciated :)


No problem. Give yourself a solid 6 week PCT after this cycle.

"Day 3" ha ha, already started then

Have a good one, and low toxicity so should be nice.

K
post edited by KS_Manchester - 2014/10/26 20:22:47
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Re: LOG: DermaTrest - lean bulk 2014/10/27 01:24:57 (permalink)
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Re: LOG: DermaTrest - lean bulk 2014/10/27 21:52:27 (permalink)
Trest Oral? May want to up dosage? I ran Trest dermal at 100mg/day with M1T. It was good. But I think oral gets a lot less in your system. Someone correct me if that's off base.
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Re: LOG: DermaTrest - lean bulk 2014/10/27 22:03:06 (permalink)
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Trest Oral? May want to up dosage? I ran Trest dermal at 100mg/day with M1T. It was good. But I think oral gets a lot less in your system. Someone correct me if that's off base.


DermaTrest bud not oral.
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Re: LOG: DermaTrest - lean bulk 2014/10/27 23:09:33 (permalink)
Spot on for the oral though.
Think too many people are drinking the advertisements cool-aid.
No need for the oral if Td is being used.
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Re: LOG: DermaTrest - lean bulk 2014/10/28 17:15:00 (permalink)
Update:
 
Still at 50mg for now as today (day 5) is the first day I haven't felt slightly short of breath/ racing heart withing the few hours after application. 
 
The above aside, I'm up 3.5 lbs and looking a bit fuller. Also feeling pretty good mood wise and have been having random spikes in libido. 
 
So far so good :)
 
Dave.
 
Edit:
Also upped Transform from 50mg to 100mg today as I had slightly itchy nips yesterday. None today.
post edited by DaveW3000 - 2014/10/28 17:17:15
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Re: LOG: DermaTrest - lean bulk 2014/10/28 18:04:26 (permalink)
3.5lbs is still good though.
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Re: LOG: DermaTrest - lean bulk 2014/10/28 18:32:01 (permalink)
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Trest Oral? May want to up dosage? I ran Trest dermal at 100mg/day with M1T. It was good. But I think oral gets a lot less in your system. Someone correct me if that's off base.


DermaTrest bud not oral.




Word. Just noticed the title says derma. 100-150 sounds good to me for derma trest, considering i was using 100 with m1t (just on workout days). Mainly because I only had 1 thing of it, to make it last as long as the M1T.
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Re: LOG: DermaTrest - lean bulk 2014/10/28 19:50:34 (permalink)
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