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Lean Cycle.. help please

right i'm new to this forum so go easy.
20 yr old. train as hard as i can and love it, eat like a horse but gettin no where fast.
i know its a slow process but everyone gets impatient
really love training and looking to perhaps put together a lean mass cycle. don't want a dianobol cycle to bloat up and retain water and obviously be on steroids to the general public, jst looking for some lean gains... any tips? dont even no wher id get the stuff yet but need to know what i'd get b4 i go hunting, IF i even do

winstrol??

thanks in advance
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    RE: Lean Cycle.. help please 2007/06/17 21:39:44 (permalink)
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    and dont fancy needles
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    RE: Lean Cycle.. help please 2007/06/18 00:27:35 (permalink)
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    hmm not much of a choice then. Winny would be ok or a winny and Var cycle but to be fair dont think oral only cycles are that great at all. you need test for gains, orals are normaly used as a kick start for a cycle.
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    RE: Lean Cycle.. help please 2007/06/18 01:04:51 (permalink)
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    and there's no oral for gains i no u can get oral dianobol but jst dont fancy the the bloating etc... so folk go.. ha he's on steroids

    wot did the old timers used to take the golden age boys?? 70's zane, arnold, katz... they took miniscule amounts compared to pro's nowadays and look 100 times better

    i jst dont fancy needles for the constant search for new injection sites, painful sites, etc
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    RE: Lean Cycle.. help please 2007/06/18 01:08:20 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: mdirvi

    and there's no oral for gains i no u can get oral dianobol but jst dont fancy the the bloating etc... so folk go.. ha he's on steroids

    wot did the old timers used to take the golden age boys?? 70's zane, arnold, katz... they took miniscule amounts compared to pro's nowadays and look 100 times better

    i jst dont fancy needles for the constant search for new injection sites, painful sites, etc



    How do you know that then?

    They may not of had as much available but they sure took alot of what they did have available!
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    RE: Lean Cycle.. help please 2007/06/18 01:10:29 (permalink)
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    well you only have to look at the shape of them, luk at coleman or cutler, jst big box-like physiques... the aesthetic aspect is gone.. guys novadays must be on far more due to the sheer size

    wot about a var cycle.. would that get the results i wanted???
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    RE: Lean Cycle.. help please 2007/06/18 01:28:17 (permalink)
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    im basically lookin for some lean gains, not huge mass, moderate lean gains with a natural look this will be my first cycle IF i do one
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    RE: Lean Cycle.. help please 2007/06/18 09:45:31 (permalink)
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    The only cycle i can think of

    weeks 1- 6 winny 50mg everyday
    weeks 1-6 var 20mg everyday
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    RE: Lean Cycle.. help please 2007/06/18 09:49:48 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: mdirvi

    right i'm new to this forum so go easy.
    20 yr old. train as hard as i can and love it, eat like a horse but gettin no where fast.
    i know its a slow process but everyone gets impatient
    really love training and looking to perhaps put together a lean mass cycle. don't want a dianobol cycle to bloat up and retain water and obviously be on steroids to the general public, jst looking for some lean gains... any tips? dont even no wher id get the stuff yet but need to know what i'd get b4 i go hunting, IF i even do

    winstrol??

    thanks in advance


    What's your stats??

    How long have you been training??
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    RE: Lean Cycle.. help please 2007/06/18 10:45:29 (permalink)
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    what about Turanabol ?

    That's what I'm considering in exactly the same position as threadstarter.



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    RE: Lean Cycle.. help please 2007/06/18 10:49:07 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Northern Rocker

    what about Turanabol ?

    That's what I'm considering in exactly the same position as threadstarter.


    Don't see you in this forum much mate

    Yep TBOL would be an ok med to use....

    Needs to be in the region of 60mg ED IMO
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    RE: Lean Cycle.. help please 2007/06/18 11:12:00 (permalink)
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    If you want a "natural" look why not do it naturally
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    RE: Lean Cycle.. help please 2007/06/18 11:22:48 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: cLaTTeReD

    If you want a "natural" look why not do it naturally


    Very True
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    RE: Lean Cycle.. help please 2007/06/18 12:17:52 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: didless

    The only cycle i can think of

    weeks 1- 6 winny 50mg everyday
    weeks 1-6 var 20mg everyday


    What's your thinking with the above??

    Do you not think 20mg is too low a dose...

    Just curious
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    RE: Lean Cycle.. help please 2007/06/18 12:27:49 (permalink)
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    Possible just thinking for a first timer, i would prop use 25mg myself
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    RE: Lean Cycle.. help please 2007/06/18 12:32:38 (permalink)
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    Then again just read that anavar should be run at min of 40mg, man thats a pricey cycle at that dose.
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    RE: Lean Cycle.. help please 2007/06/18 12:33:59 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: didless

    Then again just read that anavar should be run at min of 40mg, man thats a pricey cycle at that dose.


    You're getting closer to the dose IMO
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    RE: Lean Cycle.. help please 2007/06/18 14:44:15 (permalink)
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    im 6ft 3 85kg n about 10-15% bodyfat but tryin to bulk at the mo so gettin higher iv got a load of ephidrine to run for a month or so before i go on hol in august lookin at a mild cycle wen i come back for lean mass...

    the reason i said i want a natural look but am looking at steroids is because i mean i want a little lean mass on and dont want to fill up like a water balloon and bulk hugely too quick

    thanks for your help so far
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    RE: Lean Cycle.. help please 2007/06/18 14:52:23 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: mdirvi

    im 6ft 3 85kg n about 10-15% bodyfat but tryin to bulk at the mo so gettin higher iv got a load of ephidrine to run for a month or so before i go on hol in august lookin at a mild cycle wen i come back for lean mass...

    the reason i said i want a natural look but am looking at steroids is because i mean i want a little lean mass on and dont want to fill up like a water balloon and bulk hugely too quick

    thanks for your help so far


    Var or Tbol IMO
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    RE: Lean Cycle.. help please 2007/06/18 14:56:41 (permalink)
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    thanks mick... so if var was run for 6 weeks at 40mg ED?
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