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2009/07/28 08:07:42 (permalink)
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Legal advice if you please

I was due to take part in the jungle marathon in October in Brazil, to cut a long story short, ive split with my ex, and we are currently selling the house and all the other fun things you do when you break up.
 
So, I cant afford to go anymore. Unfortunately, I have already paid £1100 as I wasnt expecting this to happen.
 
Now, the way the organisers have it structured, you pay an initial £600 deposit, then the rest by installments.
 
Now in an exchange of emails, I have asked for the £500 back as they have quoted (from the start) that the deposit is non returnable.
 
But as its £600 ive been thinking, can they do this? I think they probably can do, but want to make sure im not throwing £600 down the drain before I leave it.
 
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    verypc
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    Re:Legal advice if you please 2009/07/28 15:14:05 (permalink)
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    Might fall under the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999: "A contractual term which has not been individually negotiated shall be regarded as unfair if, contrary to the requirement of good faith, it causes a significant imbalance in the parties' rights and obligations arising under the contract, to the detriment of the consumer."  

    Have you asked for the £600 back?  If not, I suggest you do and see what they say.  It may be that they have spent the £600 on booking flights and accommodation for you, which would seem reasonable, but they may give some other reason.  They might also be able to get some of that money back. 

    Try speaking to Trading Standards at your local council if you're not happy with what you're told.
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    Re:Legal advice if you please 2009/07/28 15:15:31 (permalink)
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    What country is the business or charity registered in for a start?
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    Re:Legal advice if you please 2009/07/29 08:37:51 (permalink)
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    The money Ive paid hasnt been spent on flights or anything else for me, as I had to organise all that seperately. However I could believe that they have already spent it as im sure their overheads must be quite high.

    I at this moment in time havent asked for the £600 back as I thought id sound out if its even plausible, I have though asked for the other £500 back that i have paid. That was two days ago and as yet I have recieved no reply.

    The organisation itself is an odd one, it is on the site as being registered in the UK, though I know the organiser I deal with lives in France, have a look at the site

    www.junglemarathon.com

    The last thing I want to do is start a massive argument if I cant get the money back in the first place, but lets be honest, £600 is £600 so I want to check every avenue as to if I can get it back
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    Re:Legal advice if you please 2009/07/29 09:45:16 (permalink)
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    This is their registered office - different from their correspondence address.

    Name & Registered Office:
    JUNGLE MARATHON LIMITED
    23A CRAVEN TERRACE
    LONDON
    W2 3QH
    Company No. 04432738


    Status: Active
    Date of Incorporation: 07/05/2002
    post edited by rightyho - 2009/07/29 09:47:01
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    S777
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    Re:Legal advice if you please 2009/07/29 12:01:21 (permalink)
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    any advice? can they keep my money or do i have a chance?
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    Re:Legal advice if you please 2009/07/29 12:19:05 (permalink)
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    If its a deposit, you will normally have some paperwork explaining that its non refundable. I doubt you'd get a deposit back as this isn't normally profit for the company. They will be paying out what they need to pay out with your deposit. They will normally make their money when you complete the full payment.
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    Re:Legal advice if you please 2009/07/29 12:22:34 (permalink)
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    Also it doesnt matter what they spent the money on, even if they had. They are a business, so for the administration time they will have to make money from you.

    If you have a confirmation, it will have a million terms and conditions, which believe me, will cover them. You only have a leg to stand on if you have never had any sort of confirmation/contract of agreement type thing.
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    Re:Legal advice if you please 2009/07/29 13:29:47 (permalink)
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    as it happens, im not aware of ever recieving anything like that!
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    Re:Legal advice if you please 2009/07/29 17:52:52 (permalink)
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    heres some advise, get back with ur gf!

    I do a lot of push ups and sit ups. And I drink plenty of milk.

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    Re:Legal advice if you please 2009/07/29 17:59:32 (permalink)
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    Part of the reason they keep deposits and later the full amount is to stop folk messing around - they probably have also made arrangements for a certain number of seats/places at a certain price and folk dropping out means they may lose that deal. Also admin costs too.
     
    Read small print and contact directly. You never know they may be ok,

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