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2009/07/30 00:15:28 (permalink)
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Looking into doing a cycle???

Hi folks am new to this site but it looks like people give good honest advice so here goes I am 36 years old and have been training seriously for 18 months now. I started initially to just lose a bit of weight but have really gotten into it in and have been recently been looking into doing a cycle of pro-hormones as I am somewhat hitting a plateau both in gains and in strength so i've been looking into whats helps available to myself.. Now someone at my gym recommended a cycle of TREN-BOMB (but i'm a bit weary of these as this is what he sells himself so he would say this)..
What i really would like is someone to advise me on what I should be looking to take on a cycle to give me some decent gains... What sides i'm likely to get and the pro's and cons of doing it...
Now before everyone starts having a go, my diet is absolutely spot on and my gym routine is also reasonably good so i'm not worried there I would just like to know what options are available to me and what people recommend and have tried themselves.. I am not going into this lightly and I plan to research all possible options before I start but I have to learn somewhere and am old enough and stupid enough to make my own decisions in the end so no lectures please just good helpful advice...
My stats are im 36, i'm 5' 8" and i'm 170 pnds in weight and my current bodyfat is around 15 to 16%...
Any help would be much appreciated,
many thanks
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    Celt
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    Re:Looking into doing a cycle??? 2009/07/30 08:31:06 (permalink)
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    Hi mate - welcome to MT

    Check out the articles section here for great info on prohormone & ots steroid cycles, including info on sides to look out for, and PCT advice

    I'd personally not run Tren Bomb - partly due to confusion over what's actually in that product (the manufacturer could be considered to have been rather 'shady' about the true contents), and partly as if it contains something like I believe it does, it is a very harsh option, and not a good first cycle imo.

    I'd suggest you consider either Epistane, or Pheraplex (many clone products of both of these steroids available under different names - people can help push you in the right directions). A 4-6 week cycle of either of these compounds would be a good option imo.
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    Re:Looking into doing a cycle??? 2009/07/30 22:02:30 (permalink)
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    Right i've been looking into this epistane and it does look ideal for a first cycle but with regards to a PCT would this stuff do the job http://astronutrition.com/sports-nutrition/post-cycle-therapy/estrodex-post-cycle-recovery.html and also should I be taking milk thistle while on the cycle for liver support also should I be doing this on its own or stacking it with some other product???
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    Re:Looking into doing a cycle??? 2009/07/30 22:08:35 (permalink)
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    I wouldn't personally use that for PCT....

    Milk thistle at 1gram a day whilst on cycle is fine. 

    Epi on it's own is fine for your first cycle.  Typical cycle is 30mg for 5-6 weeks
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    Re:Looking into doing a cycle??? 2009/07/30 22:22:12 (permalink)
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    So what do people recommend for a decent PCT after an epistane cycle then???
    What do other people use and also is it worth me using milk thistle for a couple of weeks before I start my cycle????
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    Re:Looking into doing a cycle??? 2009/07/31 00:02:18 (permalink)
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    Many products out there.

    Essentially any PCT product that contains either 6-bromo or ATD.  ATD may be listed in the ingredients as either;

    1,4,6-androstatriene-3,17-dione or
    3,17-keto-etiochol-triene
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    Re:Looking into doing a cycle??? 2009/07/31 00:57:00 (permalink)
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    Have been looking into it a little tonight and have read somewhere else that Methoxy-7-Test may be a decent PCT or even USN 19-Anabol Testo would these be ok???
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    Re:Looking into doing a cycle??? 2009/07/31 12:08:25 (permalink)
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    I don't know where you have been reading, but please, for your own sake; change your reading source(s).

    Both products are no-where near adequate for PCT
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    Re:Looking into doing a cycle??? 2009/07/31 16:24:08 (permalink)
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    Lol, do not rely on British supplement companies for testosterone boosters/PCT products because no-one I know of produces anything other than near useless products like that USN product.



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    Re:Looking into doing a cycle??? 2009/08/01 00:57:47 (permalink)
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    Daari

    I don't know where you have been reading, but please, for your own sake; change your reading source(s).

    Both products are no-where near adequate for PCT


    So come on then educate me, i've said in my first post i'm looking into this before I decide wether to do it and I want all you knowledgable people to give me good honest advice and put me on the right track. I want to make sure if I do do a cycle that its safe and I keep as many of my gains at the end of it as possible or basically its a waste of money and time. If people ai nt allowed to state actual companies on the site maybe they could PM me with some contacts ie- the best places to get all the best products I need... Thanks to you and everyone who's replied to me so far as its much appreciated
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    Re:Looking into doing a cycle??? 2009/08/01 12:53:01 (permalink)
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    leetwin

    Daari

    I don't know where you have been reading, but please, for your own sake; change your reading source(s).

    Both products are no-where near adequate for PCT


    So come on then educate me, i've said in my first post i'm looking into this before I decide wether to do it and I want all you knowledgable people to give me good honest advice and put me on the right track. I want to make sure if I do do a cycle that its safe and I keep as many of my gains at the end of it as possible or basically its a waste of money and time. If people ai nt allowed to state actual companies on the site maybe they could PM me with some contacts ie- the best places to get all the best products I need... Thanks to you and everyone who's replied to me so far as its much appreciated


    This should help

    http://www.predatornutr...post_cycle_treatment.cfm
    http://www.predatornutr...estosterone_boosters.cfm
    http://www.predatornutr...rone_boosters_part_2.cfm



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    Re:Looking into doing a cycle??? 2009/08/01 13:10:38 (permalink)
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    I've just put together the parts to my first cycle, i'm of a similar age to yourself.

    I'm going with Epistane and will run it for 6 weeks @30mg per day (possibly upping to 40mg in the latter weeks).

    Alongside it i'm running either CEL's Cycle Assist or AI's Life Support and will front load these 14 days before cycle starts and right the way through PCT.

    For PCT i've got a SERM, Tamoxifen Citrate which is commonly known as Nolvadex or just Nolva. I'm also going to incorporate Iforces Reversitol. So PCT will look like this:-

    Nolva 40/20/20
    Reversitol 0/0/3/2/2/1

    You can also check out the website www.otcpct.com which has info for those not wanting to use POM's for PCT.

    This is just from info i've managed to gather from this and other websites, there are lots of really experienced people on here that are more qualified than me to advise but i hope this has helped a bit.

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    Re:Looking into doing a cycle??? 2009/08/01 14:50:52 (permalink)
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    Thanks mate its all very helpful and the more I read up on it the more I seem to understand....
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