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Re: Low testosterone at 25 2019/02/27 09:39:33 (permalink)
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Yes, you could source your own clomid and self medicate. 
 
http://www.maledoc.com/bl...w-clomid-works-in-men/
 
Most GPs are clueless when it comes to anything to do with the HPTA. You need to see a specialist really. 
 
 

 
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Re: Low testosterone at 25 2019/02/27 10:04:03 (permalink)
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You could ask to be referred to an endocrinologist,but in my experience they are just as clueless,when it comes to the hpta.
They'll just say your levels are in the normal range,and that's it,they won't treat you for it,even if you have symptoms of low test.they will do more tests than your own gp,though,and that's positive.
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Re: Low testosterone at 25 2019/02/27 10:06:14 (permalink)
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They've tested you and told.you you are deficient in nutrients essential for normal hormone production.
There isn't any mystery here.

What else did the tests show?

You're making an excuse here to start taking drugs.
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Re: Low testosterone at 25 2019/02/27 10:08:03 (permalink)
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Everyone posting saying he should medicate, you did read the posts where he says he is deficient right?

And the contradiction of saying his diet is sorted?

Plus, one testeans nothing.

All seem very keen to advise drugs when there's a massive pink elephant staring at you.
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Re: Low testosterone at 25 2019/02/27 10:08:21 (permalink)
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They've tested you and told.you you are deficient in nutrients essential for normal hormone production.
There isn't any mystery here.

What else did the tests show?

You're making an excuse here to start taking drugs.


I'm making no excuse, I'd like to fix myself in the least negatively impacting way possible. Only deficient in vitamin D and that was only slightly. My value is 45 and the bottom of the range is 50.
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Re: Low testosterone at 25 2019/02/27 10:12:42 (permalink)
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All seem very keen to advise drugs when there's a massive pink elephant staring at you.


Mate you need to jump down off your high horse.
 
I can't see any massive pink elephant. If anything his low libido would be more due to low testosterone than low vitamin D. 
 
Until he gets more tests done than we're all just pissing in the wind.

 
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Re: Low testosterone at 25 2019/02/27 10:13:19 (permalink)
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My diet isn't bad. Breakfast is scrambled eggs and ravioli/beans, lunch is chilli with rice, cooked with various veggies and tea is always nice and balanced. I rarely eat junk food and aside from the ravioli I never eat processed foods. I meet my macros and calories every day. I could do with eating more green veggies and maybe replacing one of my 3 protein shakes with something micronutrient dense but I can imagine making much difference. I drank a couple of beers every Friday but that was only over Christmas and I've felt like this for easily over a year.
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Re: Low testosterone at 25 2019/02/27 10:22:35 (permalink)
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As I've said mate, without more lab work we're pretty much pissing in the wind in regards to diagnosis. 

 
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Re: Low testosterone at 25 2019/02/27 10:44:43 (permalink)
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A deficiency is a deficiency.
You're mid range for test and claiming that's too low, yet off the chart for vitamin D and claiming "only slightly".
Sort your diet.
Nutrition isn't optional if you want good health.

And if you are deficient in vitamin D it's an almost certainty that you are deficient in other things as it's essential for the production and utilisation of other essential nutrients.
It doesn't exist in isolation.

Your first step is your diet.

Sure I've said that.

You're looking for an explanation that's already in front of you.
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Re: Low testosterone at 25 2019/02/27 10:45:29 (permalink)
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simonboyle
Everyone posting saying he should medicate, you did read the posts where he says he is deficient right?

And the contradiction of saying his diet is sorted?

Plus, one testeans nothing.

All seem very keen to advise drugs when there's a massive pink elephant staring at you.

I'm not advising him to take drugs.I just said that he should look at the problem from every possible angle.and if he does see an endocrinologist he won't treat him even if he has symptoms of low test,as his levels are within the normal range,as you said in your previous post.
I totally agree with you,he should get his diet and everything else in order,and suggested,,he should talk to a psychologist,as it could be a psychological issue,related to his previous cycle,where he stated his libido was much higher when on the cycle,than it is now.
It could be that,or some other underlying psychological issue.
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Re: Low testosterone at 25 2019/02/27 10:50:46 (permalink)
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Okay, but looking at it from a pct angle when the issue should be diet only. Is silly.

Clomid will do very little.if the issue is malnutrition.

Like putting airbags in a car that's just been set.on fire. Sure, they increase safety, but not the issue you should be dealing with.
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Re: Low testosterone at 25 2019/02/27 10:59:34 (permalink)
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Okay, but looking at it from a pct angle when the issue should be diet only. Is silly.

Clomid will do very little.if the issue is malnutrition.

Like putting airbags in a car that's just been set.on fire. Sure, they increase safety, but not the issue you should be dealing with.

I didn't,and don't suggest he take Clomid.that was airborne warrior.I am the ultimate warrior lol
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Re: Low testosterone at 25 2019/02/27 11:10:10 (permalink)
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Fair doos
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Re: Low testosterone at 25 2019/02/27 14:34:01 (permalink)
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Simon there is one worrier and two warriors in this thread please try and keep up mate 👍

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Re: Low testosterone at 25 2019/02/27 16:33:09 (permalink)
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Can anybody think of any other tests I'd benefit from other than the previously mentioned ones which I've summarised below:
Total testosterone
Free testosterone
Estrogen
SHBG
Prolactin
DHEA
DHT
Progesterone
Estradiol

My doc is only back in 2 weeks so I'm tempted to see somebody else.
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Re: Low testosterone at 25 2019/02/27 16:42:17 (permalink)
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FAI
LH

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Re: Low testosterone at 25 2019/02/27 17:07:51 (permalink)
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Can anybody think of any other tests I'd benefit from other than the previously mentioned ones which I've summarised below:
Total testosterone
Free testosterone
Estrogen
SHBG
Prolactin
DHEA
DHT
Progesterone
Estradiol

My doc is only back in 2 weeks so I'm tempted to see somebody else.

Lots of people use medichecks
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Re: Low testosterone at 25 2019/02/27 19:07:57 (permalink)
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That's a good option but I may save it for if/when I can't get them through the NHS as they seem a bit pricey and I'm a tight bastard haha
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Re: Low testosterone at 25 2019/02/27 19:21:59 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby Lunes 2019/02/27 19:24:35
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That's a good option but I may save it for if/when I can't get them through the NHS as they seem a bit pricey and I'm a tight bastard haha

That's fair enough.it's your choice,mate.I was just giving you another option,as you said you were tempted to have your bloods done elsewhere,as your doctor wasn't back for 2 weeks
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Re: Low testosterone at 25 2019/03/11 17:27:28 (permalink)
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Update - had meeting with doc today. Said he will contact the endo to see what they think of the symptoms. I told him about the tests and he said he will mention it to the endo. If all goes well looking at 2 months to see the endo which is a bit rubbish but hey ho.

The vitamin D appears to be helping a bit so far (or the placebo affect who knows). I've been supplementing 4000iu/d and walking my new pup regularly. Could be a combination of that and thr fat loss from my keto diet seems to be doing something as libido restored a little.
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