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Lumber region back injury - my next move??

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2014/10/20 10:38:01 (permalink)

Lumber region back injury - my next move??

Disaster has struck, felt my lower back go doing heavy rack pulls yesterday, slowly been inching up the weight but it looks like i found breaking point, gutted to say the least, angry with myself too....
 
So anyway, it's done now, what should my next move be..
 
A. Go to gp asap.....though thinking he/she will just give tablets, taking strong Ibuprofen now which is helping a lot..
B. Go to a private Osteopath to see what the damage is..
C. Rest up and give it a few days..
D. Tell gp I'd like a private scan - X-Ray etc...(never get that on nhs and I'd be waiting ages)
 
Thanks a lot for any advice..
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    Re: Lumber region back injury - my next move?? 2014/10/20 10:46:49 (permalink)
    Get it checked asap by a decent chiro or osteopath would be my suggestion.
     
    Obviously rest in the mean time... Which means stay active but don't do anything silly.

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    Re: Lumber region back injury - my next move?? 2014/10/20 10:59:40 (permalink)
    Just go see a private physio or osteo.

    Have you had this injury before?

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    Re: Lumber region back injury - my next move?? 2014/10/20 11:15:36 (permalink)
    ^^ thanks Wolf, my thinking too..
     
    Jack, well, long story but I had an X-Ray eight years ago now showing i had a Degenerated Disc in L4/L5 region. With the help of an inversion table and acupuncture I became totally pain free for the first time in 15 years! For the last few years I've been able to do all compounds again and SLDL too at decent weight, for someone who could barely put socks on in the morning prior to the traction and acupuncture it felt incredible..
     
    Not had any problems for years, being able to work on hams again was really helping too I'm sure..
     
    I can walk around ok, bending slowly too, not totally sure it's L4/L5 related, time to go see someone??
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    Re: Lumber region back injury - my next move?? 2014/10/20 14:23:21 (permalink)
    Right, just back from Osteopaths, pleased I went, worked on the back and given me a couple of exercises to do, ice for ten minutes only at a time and keep moving the area to promote blood flow...and no lifting obviously.
     
    Three people have quipped 'maybe it's a sign to give up the gym mate'....they make you smile....NEVER will I give this game up, never..
     
    Time to be smarter though, Racks and deads although I love I'm going to retire on, time to take some time off and come back working around the area, still plenty I can do...
     
    Something else here, I discontinued the use of Glucosamine and chondroitin for the past couple of months, used to take it every day without fail, is this a coincidence or maybe not, but makes me think because I've had zero problems for six years now and been doing deads, racks, squats all in that time too....
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Lumber region back injury - my next move?? 2014/10/20 14:27:03 (permalink)
    Rest, rehab, and train smart know your new limits.
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    Re: Lumber region back injury - my next move?? 2014/10/20 22:30:25 (permalink)
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    Rest, rehab, and train smart know your new limits.



    Yep true, though do any of us know our limits until we hit breaking point? Often thought this when watching guys deadlift pb's etc, at what point do you say enough? It's this game all over isn't it, we're never happy..
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    Re: Lumber region back injury - my next move?? 2014/10/20 23:19:47 (permalink)
    What was his diagnosis?

    It will have nothing to do with the glucosamine.

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    Re: Lumber region back injury - my next move?? 2014/10/21 04:52:34 (permalink)
    ^^aggravated that L4/L5, she said joints were all fine, some light traction hanging from a bar etc woulds b e good, going back next Monday....loosened off glutes and upper hams which were tight too, I think the deep tissue massage is something I've neglected over the past few years...the glute area seemed very knotted..
     
    Good lift weights you have there at 80kg Jack, I did have the usual lecture on squats and deads and huge spine compression, you've never had problems at all? I'm 6'2" which I'm sure doesn't help especially doing deadlifts..
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    Re: Lumber region back injury - my next move?? 2014/10/21 09:07:34 (permalink)
    If you had gone to a GP and they only gave you ibuprofen (for example) they wouldn't be doing their job properly.  You should get a referral to an NHS physio with a lovely 6 week waiting list.
     
    I'd never see a chiro on account of them practicing unscientific quackery on unsuspecting idiots.  Ideally everyone should be seeing private sports physios, but I suspect they cost a fortune.

    BTW glucosamine has been proven to not work.
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    Re: Lumber region back injury - my next move?? 2014/10/21 10:46:14 (permalink)
    I've had an L4-S1 issue myself caused by catching heavy cleans and losing lumbar extension at the bottom. It's quite common in Olympic lifting. Some can get away with, others can't. It still flares up at times, but I've learnt to work around it and treat it.

    You most likely lost lumbar extension whilst rack pulling. Do you vid your heavy sets from the side?

    You'll be wanting to avoid lumbar flexion/posterior pelvic tilt for now. The best stretch is self traction hanging from a bar. If comfortable do some leg raises curling up into a ball whilst hanging. This allows you to stretch the lumbar erectors (which have likely gone into spasm) without compressing the anterior discs too much. Foam roll, hockey ball realise, massage etc will help alleviate referred pain symptoms.

    If it's been a few days since the initial injury, I'd move to heat over ice now.

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    Re: Lumber region back injury - my next move?? 2014/10/21 10:51:30 (permalink)
    Agree with everything Badman has said. A few of my lecturers (physio student) really lay into chiropractors.

    Private physio is around 40-70 quid for initial consultation. Which is nothing really given personal trainers charge the same with a fraction of the training.

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    Re: Lumber region back injury - my next move?? 2014/10/21 13:12:09 (permalink)
    Yes Badman been there before on a waiting list for nhs physio....waste of time.
     
    This Osteo is also a trained Physio and I've used her a few years ago and she knows her stuff...certainly put my mind at rest and to be honest it was a very worthwhile visit..
     
    Jack - I don't film my lifts side on no, thanks for your time and the traction hangs and curling I'm going to get on to yes, and will be bringing this into my routine looking forward...
     
    I will say that I was seriously worried on Sunday after this, I thought this'd take a long long time and was very down....but even after two days on I'm moving much better..
     
     
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    Re: Lumber region back injury - my next move?? 2014/10/22 13:00:57 (permalink)
    So what was breaking point......KG?
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    Re: Lumber region back injury - my next move?? 2014/10/22 13:54:38 (permalink)
    ^^for me 180kg, went after about 5th rep..
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