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2005/07/24 00:50:52 (permalink)

M1T likely kept gains?

Again the jury seems out here.

Dbol always seems to be at least 7-8Ibs,sometimes a stone with most keeping more than half after PCT,so what the deal with M1T?

Also are gains more likely to be kept on Dbol than M1T.Are the two compound drastically different,what is it about a PH that allows it to pass through laws than ban AAS?

Thanks just like to know what I [might] be getting into.


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Also as with AAS should cardio be kept to a min or discarded altogether? pretty sure I know the answer but just checking to make you lot feel intelligent
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    Dox
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    RE: M1T likely kept gains? 2005/07/24 01:17:18 (permalink)
    Don't see too much point in cardio when bulking. Whats the point in eating loads to keep calories high, and then burning a load of those calories off with cardio?

    Maybe its too early for me to tell, but I am currently 1 week into PCT from an M1T cycle and I've lost none the the weight or strength that I gained.
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    TrentReznik
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    RE: M1T likely kept gains? 2005/07/24 01:24:06 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Dox

    Don't see too much point in cardio when bulking. Whats the point in eating loads to keep calories high, and then burning a load of those calories off with cardio?

    Maybe its too early for me to tell, but I am currently 1 week into PCT from an M1T cycle and I've lost none the the weight or strength that I gained.



    And what did you gain mate?,how were the sides if any? is your PCT nova? how much of your gains do you suspect are muscle?

    Has your hair fallen out,do you have a young girls breasts? lol

    Thanks
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    killuminati04
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    RE: M1T likely kept gains? 2005/07/24 11:54:59 (permalink)
    hmm not sure on this over at anabolicminds, alot of people said they lost alot of their size/strength gains.. but that being said i don't really know what pct they used i think they said nolva but i'm not sure

    here most people keep the majority of their gains and 99% of them used nolva i think.

    gains off m1t would depends more on how much you're using and work out intensity/food intake
    but i think on here some one gained about a stone off m1t, so it is possible
    with d bol alot of the weight you gain is water bloat aswell, so you need to consider that if you didn't already know

    cardio on a m1t cycle is not essential imo as its a short cycle, i would just try to put on as much lbm as possible and if some fat comes then it comes, sort it out after pct.
    with dbol i reckon it could be used as a beginners d bol cycle is generally alot longer than any m1t cycle, so you have time to adjust what you eat if you notice too much fat, a slight bit of cardio wouldn't be too bad either, but may be alot harder considering the extra water.


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    RE: M1T likely kept gains? 2005/07/24 14:42:28 (permalink)
    Here's the info from my cycle mate.

    Start

    Weight : 163.4 lb
    bicep : 13.5"
    forearm : 12.75"
    chest : 38.5"
    bellybutton : 32.5"
    quad : 23"
    calf : 16"

    Finish

    Weight : 172.6 lb
    bicep : 14"
    forearm : 13"
    chest : 40"
    bellybutton : 34.5"
    quad : 24"
    calf : 16.5"

    This was a 3 week cycle.
    Week 1 20mg ed
    Week 2 30mg ed
    Week 3 40mg ed
    + 1000mg Milk thistle ed

    Now 1 week into PCT with Nolva
    day 1 60mg
    day 2 - 11 40mg ed
    day 12 - 21 20mg ed

    Had kidney pain at the end of week 3 which forced me to stop. If I run again I won't go above 30mg ed.
    Apart from the kidneys, the only sides I noticed were a few extra spots, nothing major, and some lethargy which I took care of with pro plus.

    My 1 rep maxes?
    Start
    Bench : 75
    Squat : 115
    Dead : 147.5

    Finish
    Bench : 80
    Squat : 130
    Dead : 160 maybe a bit more
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    RE: M1T likely kept gains? 2005/07/24 15:20:50 (permalink)
    ^^^
    IMO you should wait til end of PCT to measure overall gains
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    RE: M1T likely kept gains? 2005/07/24 16:09:10 (permalink)
    Yes Dox let me know result after PCT,also you were running a much higher dose that I was recommended to take but I'd still be interested in the results.
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    RE: M1T likely kept gains? 2005/07/24 16:21:17 (permalink)
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