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2015/01/06 20:09:01 (permalink)
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M1T?

Hi guys, so after waiting a long time I finally started M1T for the first time today, it's from Dragon Nutrition.
 
I've run pretty much run every injectable at some point, and the only oral I tried before was SD some 5 years ago, so do not have much experience with orals at all.
 
So this morning before I trained I took 1 capsule (7.5mg) and almost straight away started feeling heavy headed and pretty tired, I trained however whilst feeling a bit like a zombie, but since returning home I've just felt extremely tired, and have like a heavy cloudy head, sort of borderline headache, but kinda feel weird if I'm honest.
 
Now I know these are pretty normal sides, but I've not heard many report such stuff within a few hours of their first dose? I have read the odd person claim, they got lethargy pretty bad in the first few days and it eased up somewhat as they went on.
 
I just wanted to see if this was the norm, as I have started test/tren also today, and I know I don't feel like I do now on these at any point during cycle, so part of me just feels to maybe not bother with the M1T, while the other part is thinking wait it out and see how I go for a week, because I go back to work Monday, and wouldn't want to feel this sh*tty.
 
At first I was imagining it'll just get worse, but after reading a few people say they got extreme lethargy during the first few days which later subsided, I'm thinking to see it out, just wondering if any of you have felt like this on the very first dose within a few hours?
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Re: M1T? 2015/01/06 20:41:40 (permalink)
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M1T does work very fast but I personally haven't gotten that dreaded lethargy from it (and I do get it from SD). The most immediate effect I notice is a spike in body temperature, some real heat flashes an hour or two after taking it.
 
Did you have a good breakfast with it? The whole M1T family of "super anabolics" tends to be very sugar hungry and can give you symptoms of hypoglycemia like lethargy or that "zombie" feeling.
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Re: M1T? 2015/01/06 20:59:23 (permalink)
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Hey mate, yeah I'd say my temperature increased a little, I did have a good breakfast with it, so it was taken on a full stomach.
 
I've been so used to being naturally healthy for a long time now, I think when I dropped that capsule this morning, my body was like wtf lol.
 
I just want to see what the positives are like, as so many people have done my nut in about how good this stuff is for years now, I've always been happy with injectables, as I never got along with SD all those years ago when I tried it.
 
I did also try dbol before the SD some years ago, and came of that within a few days due to not being able to sleep a wink.
 
So have always thought orals just aren't for me, and here I am again, but I'll see how the next few days progress.
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Re: M1T? 2015/01/06 21:03:53 (permalink)
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The good part of M1T is the gains, not much else to say really. They're fantastic. People take the sides and push through because the gains are worth it.
 
If feeling good is more important for you don't use it. And yes this also goes for most orals.
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Re: M1T? 2015/01/06 21:10:57 (permalink)
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Guess that's the case, I'll have to man up a little lol, thanks again.
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Re: M1T? 2015/01/06 21:17:04 (permalink)
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Gains and strengh with M1T its amazing
I gained 7 kg and after PCT i had a 3.5-4 kg 
Strengh increased a lot and the workouts were amazing
I didnt feel any lethargy,anyway i didnt remember it to be honest..
 
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Re: M1T? 2015/01/07 10:05:44 (permalink)
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I've done a few cycles of m1t and two of those were with dragons. I didn't experience any lethargy or other issues with dragons although with genetic rebuild m1t the sides were terrible and had to cut the cycle short, I had a lot of sides from that. Sounds strange the lethargy kicking in so early, this normally happens only after 1 week or so. Obviously no two people are alike but from the many ph cycles I've done I've never experienced lethargy on any cycle so early on.
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Re: M1T? 2015/01/07 17:18:01 (permalink)
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Ran it a long time ago when it came onto the market.
Yes the sides can be quite a challenge but as above the gains are excellent.
If you continue to feel lethargic you could try running a more Androgenic compound alongside it to counter this effect.
Some of the lethargy can down to stress on the liver and kidneys, you need to be drinking gallons of water while on M1T.
Did you have any blood tests before the cycle? 
Its worth sticking with it mate, the side effects should settle down as you become accustomed to the compound.

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Re: M1T? 2015/01/08 14:06:43 (permalink)
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I'd say up water and carbs. It "fills" you up quickly
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Re: M1T? 2015/01/08 14:15:26 (permalink)
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Man I've ditched this stuff on day 3, been drinking 8-9 litres of water a day, food hasn't been a problem, carbs have been sky high for a few days, cycle support pre loaded etc etc, but the thing that's made me drop this most is two nights on the bounce of NO sleep, I mean it already makes you feel sh*t and with no sleep on top I cannot go about my day to day business, guess I'll just have to wait for the tren to kick in, which is the daddy anyhow.

Orals seemingly are not for me, dbol done exactly the same with insomnia and that's a side I cannot live with, feel like a smack head right now.
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Re: M1T? 2015/01/08 14:22:46 (permalink)
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Shame, but m1t was like ephedrine and viagra for me, sides kicked at week 3 for me.
Orals are wide and varied, some are very harsh sides wise.
Don't discount all.
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Re: M1T? 2015/01/08 16:46:03 (permalink)
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Man I've ditched this stuff on day 3, been drinking 8-9 litres of water a day, food hasn't been a problem, carbs have been sky high for a few days, cycle support pre loaded etc etc, but the thing that's made me drop this most is two nights on the bounce of NO sleep, I mean it already makes you feel sh*t and with no sleep on top I cannot go about my day to day business, guess I'll just have to wait for the tren to kick in, which is the daddy anyhow.

Orals seemingly are not for me, dbol done exactly the same with insomnia and that's a side I cannot live with, feel like a smack head right now.

Stop taking orals at night. Instead of taking one cap twice a day, just take two in the morning. Won't really make much difference in gains but it'll interfere with your sleep far less.
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Re: M1T? 2015/01/08 17:00:11 (permalink)
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Huh? Who said I was taking them at night? I was taking the M1T with breakfast at 6-7am and only 1 cap 7.5mg, and still managed consecutive nights of no sleep, sh*ts not for me.
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Re: M1T? 2015/01/08 17:08:14 (permalink)
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You can't sleep from just 7.5mg with breakfast?
 
Damn, sucks to be you.
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Re: M1T? 2015/01/08 17:09:57 (permalink)
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I would get some some blood tests done, there could be underlying problem that is making you susceptible .
You stated that you have run AAS in the the past you may have some residual effects from this that is effecting your reaction to the M1T. 
It unusual to get such a reaction at a dose of 7.5 mg / day.
 

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Re: M1T? 2015/01/08 17:32:08 (permalink)
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Tbh I've never had any issues with injectables, test up to 1000mg tren 600, however if you do some thorough reading around, it would seem I've suffered some of the lesser sides of M1T, some of what I've read just going through the search function here for example, and these reports from very reliable old members who've said they've had far worse sides than I have and to stay well away to those enquiring over use, and then not to mention, across numerous other forums, some of the sides reported are those I'd rather not risk personally especially when I have injectables waiting to do a job, it's clearly not worth it for some extra gains, had I not had the sleep issues I probably would have continued.

But I value my health a lot more, and there doesn't seem to be any worse anabolics with the sides that m1t possess, although I know this can be user dependant.

One poster on another forum described it as a poison with the side effects of muscle gain, which made me laugh.

But while there maybe decent feedback on this stuff, and quite a lot in fairness (not to the extent of tren) some of the cases of sides I've read about are that you'd only have nightmares about.

And to continue with little to no sleep, with the possibility of having more sides simply isn't worth the risk, and certainly not when you have tren waiting to do it's job.

Many people even question why anyone would bother with Orals when they have injectables, but hey people were doing my nut in about how good the gains could be on this stuff, but for me the sides seem to outweigh the positives unfortunately.
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Re: M1T? 2015/01/08 18:00:35 (permalink)
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Even twice that much M1T doesn't mess with my sleep anywhere near as much as half that much tren. Weird.
 
I didn't get that many sides from M1T at all really. A lot of the reports you'll hear are from people stacking it with prohormones, and then they just blame the M1T.
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Re: M1T? 2015/01/08 18:15:34 (permalink)
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User dependant I guess, and tbf many of the reviewers I've read had either run it solo or with some test.

I think it is pretty evident however that Orals bring more sides than injectables, certainly in my case they do, and in M1T they don't seem to come much worse for the majority.
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Re: M1T? 2015/01/08 18:53:20 (permalink)
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I'm using Genetic Rebuild M1t at the moment, 8 days in at 24mg/day.
No sides at all besides heartburn. Now that's brutal, seriously.
Not overly impressed so far. DN M1t didn't impress me either.
Old pre-ban US M1t was rocket fuel in my experience, effects were dramatic in one mere week.
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Re: M1T? 2015/01/08 20:25:23 (permalink)
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They both have great reviews, what's diet and training like
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