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2014/10/08 08:28:08 (permalink)

Mad thought on ISIS

Ok so ISIS wants to attack and take over the entire non muslim world and rule everyone under sharia law.... what would happen if the entire world just turned round tomorrow and said ok we agree. Take over right now and while you are on can you sort out the ebola crisis, the financial crisis, feed the starving etc. Basically just have the world governments abdicate every problem onto the ISIS leadership and go thanks lads let us know what you want us all to do next please....
 
Can't help thinking the result would be a lot funnier to watch than all the bombing and fighting
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    Re: Mad thought on ISIS 2014/10/08 08:41:44 (permalink)
    I think the whole world would regress by several hundred years whilst ISIS leaders lived in luxury
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    Re: Mad thought on ISIS 2014/10/08 08:59:50 (permalink)
    I am getting at the fact that currently ISIS is this band of fanatics waging a crusade in the dessert. They are not having to deal with actually leading a population or dealing with the daily issues of government. All the mundane stuff like fiscal policy and so on. They have no idea about running their own 3rd world economies so imagine the level of bewilderment if the western world just went: " Yes we surrender. Come on over to the UN and run the show lads."
     
    Hand them the Worlds problems in one go, literally dump it all on them. There you go sort it out and let us know what to do next.....They want Muslim rule but I bet they couldn't sort a bus schedule out let alone begin to deal with genuine government issues. I reckon they would fall apart totally....
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    Re: Mad thought on ISIS 2014/10/08 09:04:57 (permalink)
    they wouldn't solve anything, they'd just rule with an iron fist as they do now and chop more heads off and ultimately make everything worse than we could ever imagine.
     
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    Re: Mad thought on ISIS 2014/10/08 09:55:31 (permalink)
    there's a reason ISIS is based on a mud hut culture, its all they can handle in their limited capacity... apart from nailing their cousins and 9 year old daughters which they have excelled at.
     
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    Re: Mad thought on ISIS 2014/10/08 09:58:51 (permalink)
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    and while you are on can you sort out the ebola crisis, the financial crisis, feed the starving etc.



     
    It could be argued that all of those are necessary to re-balance humankind's existance on this planet.

     
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    Re: Mad thought on ISIS 2014/10/08 10:07:06 (permalink)
    If they can nail down the McCanns they can do whatever they want.

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    Re: Mad thought on ISIS 2014/10/08 10:43:03 (permalink)
    It would be a disaster. They don't represent anyone. Not even the so called 'islam' banner they are claiming.
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    Re: Mad thought on ISIS 2014/10/08 11:23:38 (permalink)
    They don't want to sort out the World's problems, merely enforce sharia law as that will guarantee them a seat in paradise - this world is merely a gateway to everlasting bliss. So what if everyone is going through hell on earth, it's is their interpretation of Mohammed's word, and its enforcement, that supersedes famine, disease, etc, etc
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    Re: Mad thought on ISIS 2014/10/08 11:41:04 (permalink)

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    I am getting at the fact that currently ISIS is this band of fanatics waging a crusade in the dessert. They are not having to deal with actually leading a population or dealing with the daily issues of government. All the mundane stuff like fiscal policy and so on. They have no idea about running their own 3rd world economies so imagine the level of bewilderment if the western world just went: " Yes we surrender. Come on over to the UN and run the show lads."
     
    Hand them the Worlds problems in one go, literally dump it all on them. There you go sort it out and let us know what to do next.....They want Muslim rule but I bet they couldn't sort a bus schedule out let alone begin to deal with genuine government issues. I reckon they would fall apart totally....



    well the western government's that are funding them are making there cause a lot easier, also a lot has been made of the head chopping which is very wrong imo , but we don't really talk about United nations member Saudi Arabia who beheads far more people far more often or drone strike civilian victims in Pakistan that are being murdered on a daily basis the US , also the financial crisis was caused by governments who couldn't handle fiscal policy they really couldn't do a worse job , a lot is possibly being made out of ISIS as a means to invade Syria and possibly Iran and the media feed you snippets to get you angry and support the war machine , I suspect the radicals that are fighting are pissed of that there country was invaded and they have been bombed into oblivion for nearly a hundred years , ask yourself how you would feel if they started dropping bombs on our towns , would you form a rebellion or just say come and take it all..?
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    Re: Mad thought on ISIS 2014/10/08 14:59:43 (permalink)
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    well the western government's that are funding them are making there cause a lot easier, also a lot has been made of the head chopping which is very wrong imo , but we don't really talk about United nations member Saudi Arabia who beheads far more people far more often or drone strike civilian victims in Pakistan that are being murdered on a daily basis the US , also the financial crisis was caused by governments who couldn't handle fiscal policy they really couldn't do a worse job , a lot is possibly being made out of ISIS as a means to invade Syria and possibly Iran and the media feed you snippets to get you angry and support the war machine , I suspect the radicals that are fighting are pissed of that there country was invaded and they have been bombed into oblivion for nearly a hundred years , ask yourself how you would feel if they started dropping bombs on our towns , would you form a rebellion or just say come and take it all..?




    Is this how you explain the previous 1400 years of Islamic violence and conquest too?
     
    And don't you think we should be making a lot out of ISIS? Not that I would ever defend Saudi Arabia but at least their beheading is one swift, instant swipe of a sword. Seen any of the beheading videos from ISIS? Nice blunt knives, about 30 secs minimum of blodd-curdling hacking to get the job done, sometimes requiring some twisting to get the head clean off.
     
    ISIS is an army of pychopaths with the  intent of killing any and all non-Muslims (and some Muslims), including people in the West which they are actively trying to infiltrate. I have to shake my head at anyone whose response to this is to apologise and find (bogus) excuses for them.
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    Re: Mad thought on ISIS 2014/10/08 15:45:28 (permalink)
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    I am getting at the fact that currently ISIS is this band of fanatics waging a crusade in the dessert. They are not having to deal with actually leading a population or dealing with the daily issues of government. All the mundane stuff like fiscal policy and so on.

    What makes you think they'd even care about any of that?

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    Re: Mad thought on ISIS 2014/10/08 15:47:57 (permalink)
    lots of closet support for ISIL at street level and Middle eastern Governments.
     
    So little action from 'Moderate' countries like Turkey despite it being right on their doorsteps.
     
    If they are a great insult to Islam then why have there only been a few protest marches that have attracted very few people indeed, yet when Islam was insulted by a video on Youtube or a Cartoon in a Dutch news paper there were Global riots, massive protests marches that attracted millions, thousands were injured and over 100 people died, such was the outrage!
     
    Embassy's got attacked, people died.
     
    Salman Rushdie wrote a book, massive Global outrage, death threats and a Fatwa on his life.
     
    Yet here we have a group of people who are supposed to be insulting Islam in the highest order by establishing a 'Caliphate' in its name while carrying out terrible acts against humanity and the response is hardly anything in comparison to the above mentioned insults.
     
    Plenty of words but little deeds. 
     
     
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    Re: Mad thought on ISIS 2014/10/08 16:05:04 (permalink)
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    well the western government's that are funding them are making there cause a lot easier, also a lot has been made of the head chopping which is very wrong imo , but we don't really talk about United nations member Saudi Arabia who beheads far more people far more often or drone strike civilian victims in Pakistan that are being murdered on a daily basis the US , also the financial crisis was caused by governments who couldn't handle fiscal policy they really couldn't do a worse job , a lot is possibly being made out of ISIS as a means to invade Syria and possibly Iran and the media feed you snippets to get you angry and support the war machine , I suspect the radicals that are fighting are pissed of that there country was invaded and they have been bombed into oblivion for nearly a hundred years , ask yourself how you would feel if they started dropping bombs on our towns , would you form a rebellion or just say come and take it all..?




    Is this how you explain the previous 1400 years of Islamic violence and conquest too?
     
    And don't you think we should be making a lot out of ISIS? Not that I would ever defend Saudi Arabia but at least their beheading is one swift, instant swipe of a sword. Seen any of the beheading videos from ISIS? Nice blunt knives, about 30 secs minimum of blodd-curdling hacking to get the job done, sometimes requiring some twisting to get the head clean off.
     
    ISIS is an army of pychopaths with the  intent of killing any and all non-Muslims (and some Muslims), including people in the West which they are actively trying to infiltrate. I have to shake my head at anyone whose response to this is to apologise and find (bogus) excuses for them.


    My point is two wrongs don't make a right , the western government's are also an army of psychopaths and dont forget guantanamo bay and the torturing carried out a death is a death , wouldnt call a lot of Saudi stoning swift, all the intervention we have had up to now had led to the situation we have now , more intervention will lead to more and so on
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    Re: Mad thought on ISIS 2014/10/08 16:16:41 (permalink)
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    all the intervention we have had up to now had led to the situation we have now , more intervention will lead to more and so on



    because the intervention towards them has been sterile and half assed.
    i would green light any drone attack that killed them, their family and children... if it missed their intended target and still killed his family then it serves as a lesson as who else will die until they are found.
    They kill indiscriminately, they target civilians, they rape and torture women as well as children.
     
    moral high grounds and empathy do not enter the equation.
     
    do you turn the over cheek? 
    the more i see these sort of conflicts where white middle aged men bumble on the right thing to do without causing offence to anyone the more i side with the chinese and russians who do not put up with this crap

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    Re: Mad thought on ISIS 2014/10/08 16:40:31 (permalink)
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    all the intervention we have had up to now had led to the situation we have now , more intervention will lead to more and so on



    because the intervention towards them has been sterile and half assed.
    i would green light any drone attack that killed them, their family and children... if it missed their intended target and still killed his family then it serves as a lesson as who else will die until they are found.
    They kill indiscriminately, they target civilians, they rape and torture women as well as children.
     
    moral high grounds and empathy do not enter the equation.
     
    do you turn the over cheek? 
    the more i see these sort of conflicts where white middle aged men bumble on the right thing to do without causing offence to anyone the more i side with the chinese and russians who do not put up with this crap


    they do not get involved in this crap
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    Re: Mad thought on ISIS 2014/10/08 17:10:16 (permalink)
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    all the intervention we have had up to now had led to the situation we have now , more intervention will lead to more and so on



    because the intervention towards them has been sterile and half assed.
    i would green light any drone attack that killed them, their family and children... if it missed their intended target and still killed his family then it serves as a lesson as who else will die until they are found.
    They kill indiscriminately, they target civilians, they rape and torture women as well as children.
     
    moral high grounds and empathy do not enter the equation.
     
    do you turn the over cheek? 
    the more i see these sort of conflicts where white middle aged men bumble on the right thing to do without causing offence to anyone the more i side with the chinese and russians who do not put up with this crap


    they do not get involved in this crap




    Russia has when needed...the war of Dagestan was an example of swift, brutal and systematic force against checnya. Installing their own government and forces inside the country and only pulling out once their puppet regime could be relied upon.
     
     

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    Re: Mad thought on ISIS 2014/10/08 20:58:29 (permalink)
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    all the intervention we have had up to now had led to the situation we have now , more intervention will lead to more and so on



    because the intervention towards them has been sterile and half assed.
    i would green light any drone attack that killed them, their family and children... if it missed their intended target and still killed his family then it serves as a lesson as who else will die until they are found.
    They kill indiscriminately, they target civilians, they rape and torture women as well as children.
     
    moral high grounds and empathy do not enter the equation.
     
    do you turn the over cheek? 
    the more i see these sort of conflicts where white middle aged men bumble on the right thing to do without causing offence to anyone the more i side with the chinese and russians who do not put up with this crap


    they do not get involved in this crap




    Russia has when needed...the war of Dagestan was an example of swift, brutal and systematic force against checnya. Installing their own government and forces inside the country and only pulling out once their puppet regime could be relied upon.
     
     


    Granted , but that's going back 15 years and lasted about 6 weeks it borders Russia  , and as far as its known Russia didn't arm the very people it then removed , the US on the other hand have armed every man and his dog trying to destabilise every part of the middle east that it doesn't control , declared illegal wars , removed democratically elected leaders , it was Putin who came up with the deal to stop them bombing Syria , ISIS looks like it was the backup plan which has gone wrong  or just an excuse for mission creep , this kind of sums up how I feel
     

     
     
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    Re: Mad thought on ISIS 2014/10/13 16:40:27 (permalink)
    http://news.sky.com/story/1352190/islamic-state-boasts-of-revival-of-slavery
     
    While its popular to blame the US, Israel and just about everything and everybody for ISIL and their actions people really do need to understand the truth and that is simply that they are taking Islam back to its 7th Century form and its that simple.
     
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    Re: Mad thought on ISIS 2014/10/13 16:43:49 (permalink)
    backwards culture wants to become even more backwards... seems legit.
    next stage, tear down all buildings over one story high and revert back to mud huts ala Afghanistan

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