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2008/05/21 17:42:34 (permalink)
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Making Bac Water?

What are your thoughts on making your own bac water??

(This doesn't come under the topic of "homebrew" I hope?!)

The idea is to use sterile water add 0.9% BA and pass through a .2um filter into a sterile vial.

Your thoughts? Safe? Sterile?

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    theiopener
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    RE: Making Bac Water? 2008/05/21 17:53:48 (permalink)
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    can you not get it free from needle exchanges?
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    RE: Making Bac Water? 2008/05/21 17:55:42 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: theiopener

    can you not get it free from needle exchanges?


    Not round my way no. Can get sterile water from some exchanges but not bac water.. at least I'm not aware that you can?

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    RE: Making Bac Water? 2008/05/21 17:58:14 (permalink)
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    wasnt sure, off chance i saw some threads saying you can get it from needle exchanges. i may be wrong though

    as for sterile, dunno about BA and filtering and what not, so will using those mean its sterile in a nonsterile environment (i.e. a clean room)

    will the BA and filtering go straight into the vial with no outside exposure or does the BA guarantee sterility regardless of outside influence?
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    RE: Making Bac Water? 2008/05/21 18:04:47 (permalink)
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    Just buy it mate, much safer


    I imagine the way you have described it would be safe,

    Bac water's not exactly expensive

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    RE: Making Bac Water? 2008/05/21 18:06:45 (permalink)
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    wouldnt trust it myself as you cant really create lab conditions in your front room.... however, i have injected stuff before as im sure many have when they have very little idea of the sterile-ness of the product, so it would be hypocritical i suppose to say not too, just be careful!

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    RE: Making Bac Water? 2008/05/21 18:26:34 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: gmmonkey

    What are your thoughts on making your own bac water??

    (This doesn't come under the topic of "homebrew" I hope?!)

    The idea is to use sterile water add 0.9% BA and pass through a .2um filter into a sterile vial.

    Your thoughts? Safe? Sterile?


    Really to most fully sterilise water based products you need to additionally autoclave the product. This can be done using a pressure cooker if you have one - when it reaches temp (121degC) cook it for 20mins, then it has been autoclaved.

    Best option though is to buy it, its not that expensive and much less risky! If you can buy BA you can certainly buy sterile water!!

    mcl
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    RE: Making Bac Water? 2008/05/21 20:57:57 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: theiopener

    wasnt sure, off chance i saw some threads saying you can get it from needle exchanges. i may be wrong though

    as for sterile, dunno about BA and filtering and what not, so will using those mean its sterile in a nonsterile environment (i.e. a clean room)

    will the BA and filtering go straight into the vial with no outside exposure or does the BA guarantee sterility regardless of outside influence?


    You may be able to get it at some exchanges bud, I just cant here :(

    BA is used to sterilise solutions (homebrew steroids for example) as an anti microbacterial agent (if thats the correct term) The water will be sterile water and only contamination would come from opening the water bottle and exposure to the air. It would be passed through a .2um sterile syringe filter directly into a sterile sealed vial via needle so after the filtering there is no room for contamination.

    I believe the BA will sterilise most solutions at a reasonably low % a max of 5% being used in homebrew steroids and often only 2%.

    From what I've found while searching "up the BA to 3% and it will sterilize your piss" has been said... Water isnt that hard to sterilise from what I read and seeing as the water will be sterile and the BA is USP (although rebottled) minimal contamination will occur and passing through a filter will remove any bacterial spores etc..

    That all from what I've read so I'm no expert but it would seem a viable way to make cheap Bac water.

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    RE: Making Bac Water? 2008/05/21 21:05:34 (permalink)
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    TBH mate you can do what you are suggesting. I make my own AAS, you are doing much the same.
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    RE: Making Bac Water? 2008/05/21 21:06:13 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: mad_cereal_lover


    ORIGINAL: gmmonkey

    What are your thoughts on making your own bac water??

    (This doesn't come under the topic of "homebrew" I hope?!)

    The idea is to use sterile water add 0.9% BA and pass through a .2um filter into a sterile vial.

    Your thoughts? Safe? Sterile?


    Really to most fully sterilise water based products you need to additionally autoclave the product. This can be done using a pressure cooker if you have one - when it reaches temp (121degC) cook it for 20mins, then it has been autoclaved.

    Best option though is to buy it, its not that expensive and much less risky! If you can buy BA you can certainly buy sterile water!!

    mcl


    I was looking at autoclaves earlier as it goes. Not that expensive... just a pressure cooker with a temp gauge on it from what I could see.

    So would I make the Bac water as mentioned then autoclave? Or does the autoclaving come in at an earlier stage?

    Also Do you know if empty glass vials are ok to sterilise this way?

    I'd be happy to inject with home made BA made in this way - sterile water, BA, filtered to .2um and autoclaved.. at least I know what has been done

    As DavidT said
    however, i have injected stuff before as im sure many have when they have very little idea of the sterile-ness of the product

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    RE: Making Bac Water? 2008/05/21 21:10:28 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Papa Lazarou

    TBH mate you can do what you are suggesting. I make my own AAS, you are doing much the same.


    Yeah I figure many do make AAS as you do and have no problems (you've had no problems right!? lol)

    Do you autoclave your "products"? or similar?

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    RE: Making Bac Water? 2008/05/21 21:36:06 (permalink)
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    No autoclave used mate. Do many UG labs either?
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    Re:Making Bac Water? 2011/03/21 12:52:53 (permalink)
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    I wouldnt try making my own...there are several UK suppliers who sell bac water. www.bac-water.co.uk and www.tantilise.com. I think tantilise also sells sterile water too
     
     
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