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*** Member's Interview with MT Moderator mad_cereal_lover ***

Big thanks firstly mcl for agreeing to do this! 

The usual things apply: please use this topic to ask him any questions about  lifestyle, training, diet and progress, or anything else.  Please, nothing too personal or invasive. Please bear with him and give him time to reply.

mcl, a few questions from me first;

1) Can you give us a brief rundown of how you got into working out and how long you've been training?

2) You have a very important job as a research officer for cancer research, have you always been interested in science? 

3)  Tell me something about yourself that would surprise people.


Thanks!!

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    Re:*** Member's Interview with Moderator mcl*** 2009/07/22 22:46:17 (permalink)
    Yes, we've decided to alter things this week and for the first time we've asked a Moderator to be interviewee of the week (the mods who have been interviewed before were interviewees before they were mods)

    MCL - thanks for agreeing to be in the spotlight:

    1) Give us a brief rundown of your academic background please

    2) You have great knowledge on the subject of anabolic steroid use in sport, how did you gain this knowledge?

    3)  We met in 2005 IIRC at a conference, you already had a decent size back then, how have you come on since then?

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    Re:*** Member's Interview with MT Moderator mad_cereal_lover *** 2009/07/23 11:19:08 (permalink)
    Thanks Hazel and James, luckily I've got a spare few minutes at work (shhh don't tell the boss!) now so will get cracking!

    1) Can you give us a brief rundown of how you got into working out and how long you've been training?
     
    This is where I open up and be completely frank and honest.  I feel a lot of people in the sport of bodybuilding come from a similar background.  Many have gone through body-issues in their youth and this has led them on to wanting to better their bodies and hopefully themselves.  My story is much the same.
     
    I was ALWAYS a chubby kid from what I remember.  I actually have a memory of being 4 years old, going to the Dr with joint problems (what they didn't know then is I had arthritis - put it to growing pains) and the Dr telling me/my mother I could "lose a few pounds."  I remember because my mother was furious as she said I was just a growing kid with puppy fat.
     
    Bullying at school from the age of 10/11 as I was different (american accent, goofy teeth, then braces, and fat).  In particular I had some bad bullying with regards to my gyno.  All my fat (or lots) seemed to deposit on my chest area from a young age.  I went on my first diet at the age of 12, I lost about 10lbs I remember by throwing away my sandwiches at lunch my mother made me.
     
    My weakness was (apart from sweet things/ice-cream) funnily enough - cereal!!  I used to eat several bowls a day...
     
    When I got to 18 in my first year at uni, I started using the gym.  Toyed with weights, ran mostly.  Lost a lot of weight, became quite skinny (10.5stone at 5'8").  Always obsessed from then onwards with exercise.  I saw big guys and people like Arnie and although at first I thought to myself "wow thats too big," I wanted to be like that.
     
    My perception of "too big" quickly changed.  I would say I got into weights seriously at the 19/20 age.  I will be 27 in a few weeks, so 7-8 years training.

    2) You have a very important job as a research officer for cancer research, have you always been interested in science? 
     
    Thanks for considering my job important! LOL.  To be honest I wanted to be a medical Dr.  I got the grades but made errors in where I applied to uni meaning I didn't get offered a place.  My backup was a Biochemistry degree at a very good university for science.  I enjoy knowing/working out how things work, especially your body in minute detail - it has always fascinated me, and still does, and the more I know the more I'm baffled by its complexity. 
     
    I did 2 placements (one for GlaxoSmithKline the other for a uni) doing research during my undergrad, and knew that research would be something I could do and would enjoy.   I stayed on at my uni to do a PhD then in Oct 2004 straight after my 4-yr degree, and completed that early 2008.  I was very lucky to be selected out of 30 applicants for this CRUK funded job so consider myself very lucky indeed to have this current post-doc position. 
     
    Was always interested in cancer as it takes so many lives, is a tragic disease and has affected my family.

    3)  Tell me something about yourself that would surprise people.
     
    This is such a woman quesion. LOL.  I've played the piano for 21 years...that might surprise some people?!
     
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    Re:*** Member's Interview with MT Moderator mad_cereal_lover *** 2009/07/23 11:29:14 (permalink)
    Good choice for an interview

    How many bowls of cereal do you consume a day?
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    Re:*** Member's Interview with MT Moderator mad_cereal_lover *** 2009/07/23 11:32:39 (permalink)

    Now then MCL..

    Always resppected your extensive knowledge on AAS :)

    What to date (bar your 1st cycle) would you deem your most successful for results that you wanted from it??

    Compounds / doses used??

    What's a typical days eating consist of??

    What's your favourite cheat meal??

    What's your favourite type of bottled beer??
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    Re:*** Member's Interview with MT Moderator mad_cereal_lover *** 2009/07/23 11:36:57 (permalink)
    Hai !

    What IS your favourite cereal???
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    Re:*** Member's Interview with MT Moderator mad_cereal_lover *** 2009/07/23 11:40:05 (permalink)
    And what psychometric testing did the cereal undertake to confirm its status of "mad"?
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    Re:*** Member's Interview with Moderator mcl*** 2009/07/23 11:43:39 (permalink)
    1) Give us a brief rundown of your academic background please
     
    As said above, I've an undergrad master's degree in biochemistry (MBiochem, hons), a PhD in cell biology.  To give a more in depth insight if anyone is really interested (!), my PhD was looking at a set of proteins that are important in controlling cell signalling events.  These proteins help attenuate (ie. silence) the signal that an activaetd receptor protein will give.  If you can imagine say a growth factor being activated by a hormone on the cell surface, you do not want this to constantly give a signal to the cell telling it to grow and divide, otherwise you will end up with a cell constantly dividing uncontrollably - ie. tumour/cancer etc.  The proteins I work with have a role in silencing these activated receptors to prevent such deleterious effects.  These proteins also play a role in HIV (most retroviruses) infection as well (the virus "hijacks" my proteins to escape from an infected cell and infect other cells, so good therapeutic target potentially).  During my PhD I published work that showed that some bacteria (eg. Salmonella) target my proteins to survive in the cell, and also published work that showed these proteins are essential for proper cell division.  So really they are quite important proteins in every cell in your body!!
     
    More recently I've been working on a cancer aspect - we think that these proteins help maintain a "normal" cell that lines an organ (epithelial cell - ~90% of all cancers arise from epithelial cells).  When our proteins go wrong (mutation, altered gene expression, etc), a cell could turn cancerous.  People have shown a clear link between these proteins and cancer, however noone has yet shown WHY there is this link in human cells.  We are in the middle of writing a paper on this we hope to publish in the next 1-2 months which would be the first paper giving a mechanism for this, the result of my last 1 year's work in this area, so it is exciting stuff for geeks like me!

    2) You have great knowledge on the subject of anabolic steroid use in sport, how did you gain this knowledge?
     
    Thank you.  In essence, reading (critically) published work, speaking to users, and personal experience.  Everything is all well and good on paper, in a journal, but nothing replaces the individual experience and what you learn from that.   At the same time however, just because you take something doesn't mean you know a lot about it.  Also people should always be critical of published work - you have to be as much of it is lined with error and bias.  Just because something is published doesn't mean it is a) fully correct or b) physiologically relevant [to a human].  I am lucky with my background reading journals every day that I can be critical of papers quite easily, as you have to be in my job.
     
    What you also realise more and more is that how different everyone is, in our genetic make-up, meaning we all respond differently to different things.  I realise as well that at the start of my exploration in this area, I was often quick to defend the use of AAS. 
     
    Over time however I'd like to think I've learnt a lot (always plenty more to learn) and have a more balanced view.  I do think people often jump into its use far too soon, and then often these substances are a) abused and b) relied on too heavily for gains.  Diet suffers, traning/rest periods aren't as strict, and people rely on the drugs when they could get so much more out of much less use/no use at all.  Not always the case, but often.  Patience is another virtue that you must learn in this sport! 
     
    People who have the focus, the true mental focus, the drive, the want, the will power will have everything else fall into place.  You have those things sorted as long as you have the right advice on diet/nutrition and training/rest, you can see very good results.  Of course genetics play a huge role but one should never rely on drug use alone.  Its a complementary thing that should only be used when other resources are exhausted AND everything else is in place.  Otherwise you're risking your health for very little gain indeed in reality.
     
    This is the beauty of MT - we have so many very knowledgable people on here that can pass on useful and intelligent information.  Hopefully we can continue to be balanced in such things and the overwhelming voice in posts on advice will be the sensible one.
    3)  We met in 2005 IIRC at a conference, you already had a decent size back then, how have you come on since then?
     
    Unfortunately since then I've run into a lot of health problems.  I developed type 1 diabetes last year and prior to that as I was undiagnosed I lost a LOT of weight.  I've now regained that and nearly regained the strength too.  Before the health issues I was deadlifting 275kg, benching 170kg, squatting 220kg.  I'm back up to 260kg/160kgx2/210kg on those, am sitting at 15stone (5'8" just LOL) and have recently lost a decent bit of bodyfat, so can see lower abs, whatever %age that would be (?!?), maybe around 10-12% bf, probably the lowest BF I've been in my life (I plan to get lower!).  I am a fair bit bigger than when you saw me in 2005 though thankfully, just much lower BF!!
     
    Unfortunately my health problems will always hinder me - not the diabetes but my arthritis so I really struggle to go heavy on bench (elbows/shoulders/wrists are affected) or squat (knees have arthritis too...).  Yes I am old beyond my years and falling apart!!  However I love this sport of bettering yourself each day, facing the challenge the weights bring every day (weekends off!), the feeling it gives you, release of tension and the discipline.  I train for myself and myself alone really.
     
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    Re:*** Member's Interview with MT Moderator mad_cereal_lover *** 2009/07/23 11:45:08 (permalink)
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    Good choice for an interview

    How many bowls of cereal do you consume a day?


    LMAO.  I had to cut back on this a few years back, I could chug through a whole box of crunchy nut nutty, or just right, or cinnamon squares....mmmmm.
     
    So just the 1 in the morning, fruit and fibre LOL.  Keeps me regular...
     
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    Re:*** Member's Interview with MT Moderator mad_cereal_lover *** 2009/07/23 11:53:59 (permalink)
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    Cardifflad

    Good choice for an interview

    How many bowls of cereal do you consume a day?


    LMAO.  I had to cut back on this a few years back, I could chug through a whole box of crunchy nut nutty, or just right, or cinnamon squares....mmmmm.
     
    So just the 1 in the morning, fruit and fibre LOL.  Keeps me regular...
     
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    Ooooooooooooooo Cunchy Nut Cornflakes with freezing cold milk......

    Cheers mate
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    Re:*** Member's Interview with MT Moderator mad_cereal_lover *** 2009/07/23 11:57:36 (permalink)
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    Now then MCL..

    Always resppected your extensive knowledge on AAS :)

    What to date (bar your 1st cycle) would you deem your most successful for results that you wanted from it??

    Compounds / doses used??

    What's a typical days eating consist of??

    What's your favourite cheat meal??

    What's your favourite type of bottled beer??

    Thanks mate
     
    Most successful cycle was a 20 weeker where I started on 600mg/week of primo for the WHOLE duration of the 20 weeks.  At week 4 I introduced test prop 150mg eod, and tren ace 50mg ed.  Ran the test prop for 10 weeks and the tren ace for 8 weeks.  I had this theory that you should finish off a long cycle with the LEAST suppressive med to aid in recovery hence the odd structure, and dropping tren earlier.  I gained a lot on that cycle, I remember I posted up pics and literally my back and traps changed shape, I didn't realise how much myself until I saw the pics and people kept mailing me asking WTF I took.  I should point out though that my diet was quite good throughout as well.
     
    Compounds/doses - tried test (obviously!), primo, tren's, masteron, deca for joints, EQ.  Anavar.  HGH, IGF.  Melanotan (!).  Never touched any other orals, have a dodgy liver values at best of times and kidney issues.  Highest dose would have been primo at 1g/week once.  Never gone above 1g test per week and rarely use many compounds together.  Only once did I do 1g test for a bit.
     
    Currently am cutting and found what works for me.  It looks a little bit like this:
     
    6:30 am - cereal/oats with skimmed milk OR 2 omega eggs + 6whites
    TRAIN 7-9am
    9:15am - PWO shake (2 scoops in water)
    10:00 - smoked fish or chicken or beef + fruit bar (oats, fruit, nuts)
    1pm - chicken/meat + veg.  some days new potatoes, other days no carbs
    4pm - nuts + fruit bar OR sushi OR chicken and rice
    6:30/7pm - chicken/meat/salmon/tuna + rice + salad (sometimes omit rice)
    9-10pm - strawberries/fruit with splenda
    10:30pm/before bed (!) - whey in 1/3 skimmed milk, 2/3 water, 2 scoops
     
     
    I love food and find it very hard to cut.  So can never have sweet or bad savoury in the house.  Cheat meals USED to be before diabetes (!) something along the lines of a pizza + tube of pringles + bag of sweets (like haribo) + hagan-dazs ice-cream (whole tub).  Now if I do that I have to inject about 20 units of insulin or I'm up all night pissing every 45mins feeling like poo.  I've disciplined myself to not go all out anymore.  So will either have a bag of sweets (+ insulin) or a fatty dinner (pizza or takeaway like chinese) OR a tub of ice-cream but with a healthy dinner.  Although last cheat I had Ben and Jerry's newest frozen yoghurt which is Phish Food which is great as 60% fewer calories and tastes good!!
     
    Bottled beer - don't like beer nor do I ever really drink alcohol mate, am pretty much tee-total so can't answer that sorry
     
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    Re:*** Member's Interview with MT Moderator mad_cereal_lover *** 2009/07/23 12:02:04 (permalink)
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    Hai !

    What IS your favourite cereal???


    Crunchy nut nutty:

     
    Cinnamon grahams:
     

     
    Just right:

     
    There are also a few american ones I love but you cannot get here.  Trix and Fruity pebbles I used to eat by the box when younger in america!
     
    Also - Clusters, I would eat all the bran flakes first then save the nuts til last and have spoonful after spoonful of just the nuts bit.  I always wanted them to bring out a version just with the nuts.  Just like I always wanted cadbury's to bring out at easter a proper sized easter egg that was a giant creme egg......mmmmm.....
     
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    Re:*** Member's Interview with MT Moderator mad_cereal_lover *** 2009/07/23 12:03:47 (permalink)
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    And what psychometric testing did the cereal undertake to confirm its status of "mad"?


    Hi mate
     
    You know when you see someone who is grossly obese?  A doctor doesn't need to do a BMI or BF %age or waist size test to tell them they are obese.  Its kind of in your face.
     
    My mad status can be paralleled to that example....
     
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    Re:*** Member's Interview with MT Moderator mad_cereal_lover *** 2009/07/23 12:55:17 (permalink)
    I honeslty thought you was in your 40's.........at least.
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    Re:*** Member's Interview with MT Moderator mad_cereal_lover *** 2009/07/23 12:56:22 (permalink)
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    Trix and Fruity pebbles I used to eat by the box when younger in america!
     


    Ex-pat here too (although from north of the border)!  What about Froot Loops?! 


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    Re:*** Member's Interview with MT Moderator mad_cereal_lover *** 2009/07/23 13:00:54 (permalink)
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    Trix and Fruity pebbles I used to eat by the box when younger in america!



    Ex-pat here too (although from north of the border)!  What about Froot Loops?! 




    Oh yeah baby!  Forgot about fruity fruit loops!!  And that parrot on the commercial LOL!
     
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    Re:*** Member's Interview with MT Moderator mad_cereal_lover *** 2009/07/23 13:01:33 (permalink)
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    I honeslty thought you was in your 40's.........at least.


    LMAO!!!  I get that a lot, can I ask why exactly you thought that?
     
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    Re:*** Member's Interview with MT Moderator mad_cereal_lover *** 2009/07/23 13:07:10 (permalink)
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    I honeslty thought you was in your 40's.........at least.

    Me too, I thought you were much older!!!

    MCL- do you have a partner, and are they aware of your AAS use, and do they support your training?

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    Re:*** Member's Interview with MT Moderator mad_cereal_lover *** 2009/07/23 13:08:14 (permalink)
    the baldness and the hair line seems grey. So i just presumed you was in your 40's. Plus I've never seen your face or anything and I've only got your hair to go off. Plus you do all that science stuff in a lab and scientist are generally seen as older blokes.
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    Re:*** Member's Interview with MT Moderator mad_cereal_lover *** 2009/07/23 13:14:31 (permalink)
    1) MCl, as somewhat of a geek myself, with some interest in proteomics, but not much knowledge in your area, what groups of proteins did you specifically look at in your work.

    2) what sage advice would you give to someone who is incredibly bored trying to write up his PhD now !

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