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Re: 2017/06/15 18:38:26 (permalink)
Nothing too bad there on your macros. Can easily add 10-15g of protein to a couple of those meals with no hardship I would have thought

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Re: 2017/06/15 18:56:15 (permalink)
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Nothing too bad there on your macros. Can easily add 10-15g of protein to a couple of those meals with no hardship I would have thought



Fat too high for my liking. 100g is probably the max I'd normally like to go to. My waist has increased from 37 to 39 in only a few months!
 
In fact, I'd always thought my BF was about 14% - it's lower on my fat callipers! But now I'm wondering whether it is in the 20s.
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Re: 2017/06/15 22:36:38 (permalink)
I agree with King Vest.

You are on the sauce proper (better nutrient partitioning and a higher rate of protein synthesis). Get more protein in you.

I'd add a scoop of whey to meal 1,2,4,5 & 7. 100 extra grams. I don't think your fats too high but if you want to cut it back you do have 3 servings of nuts.

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Re: 2017/06/16 06:47:05 (permalink)
Just catching up with the last few pages mate.
Looking good and you are managing to consume far more than me, I am really struggling to eat at the moment, don't know what it is, whether it is the heat offshore or what but I am drinking about 5 litres of water a day but hardly any appetite.
 
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Re: 2017/06/16 10:58:38 (permalink)
Eating in this heat is hard, but that's what ice cream is for

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Re: 2017/06/16 20:12:29 (permalink)
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I agree with King Vest.
You are on the sauce proper (better nutrient partitioning and a higher rate of protein synthesis). Get more protein in you.
I'd add a scoop of whey to meal 1,2,4,5 & 7. 100 extra grams. I don't think your fats too high but if you want to cut it back you do have 3 servings of nuts.



OK. I wasn't going to use protein powder as I had some blood results that suggests is skewered kidney filtration rates. Been doing fine without it but have some left over from last purchase and it's easier adding a scoop of that to four meals as it's 25g protein per serving.
 
Took quarter of adex yesterday in case of heavy aromatisation with front load. Not sure whether to leave the AI for a few days now. Feeling quite tired today. And fat around the middle. My christ my belly is looks pregnant again when I breathe out. Not a great look. Some say it's wrong to run test with high fat levels - and I must be well above what I thought I was.
 
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Just catching up with the last few pages mate.
Looking good and you are managing to consume far more than me, I am really struggling to eat at the moment, don't know what it is, whether it is the heat offshore or what but I am drinking about 5 litres of water a day but hardly any appetite.
 
Keeping going

 
Thanks mate. I know what you mean. Sometimes you just don't fancy eating.

 

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Re: 2017/06/17 14:30:00 (permalink)
During last night's workout I felt like sh1t. Total and utter sh1t. God knows what happened. But my thought process went something like this: 'Why am I doing this? This is nonsense. Just stop this charade now and put all your attention on your kids.' 
At one point I was on my knees on the floor after a set of squats breathing very heavily. I felt shattered, like I was going to collapse. No energy whatsoever. Scrapped bicep curls too because it had already taken me more 90 minutes and was almost 11.30pm. Not a pleasant experience. Don't know what happened. Still feel a bit off.
 
16/06/17:
Flat barbell bench press: - target 3x12
46kg x 12 warm-up
50kg x 12 warm-up
74kg x 12
74kg x 12
74kg x 12 - 11 really as couldn't lock out on final rep.
 
Squats: - target 3x12
46kg x 12
50kg x 12
88kg x 12
88kg x 12
88kg x 12
 
Barbell rows: - target 5x10
46kg x 10
66kg x 10
84kg x 10
84kg x 10
84kg x 10
84kg x 10
84kg x 10
 
Rear delt flys: - target 3x12
14kg x 12
14kg x 12
14kg x 12
 
Close-grip bench: target 3x12
46kg x 12
58kg x 12
58kg x 12
58kg x 12
 
Time: 1hr 35mins.
 
Nutrition:
 
Meal 1:
200g muesli, 200ml skimmed milk, protein shake
CAL: 369. C: 65. F: 5.6. P: 10.3
CAL: 69. C: 10. F: 0.2. P: 6.8.
CAL: 369. C: 65. F: 5.6. P: 10.3
CAL: 69. C: 10. F: 0.2. P: 6.8.
CAL: 118. C: 1.2. F: 1.4. P: 25.
994. C: 151.2. F: 13. 59.2. 

Meal 2: 
Homemade shake
100g oats [Cals: 376. C: 60.4. F: 8.1. P: 11.]
1 tablespoon peanut butter [Cals: 94. C: 3.13. F: 8.06. P: 4.01]
300ml skimmed milk [Cals: 105. C: 15. F: 0.3. P: 10.2].
100g cottage cheese [Cals: 62. C: 4.7. F: 0.3. P: 10.1]
One scoop protein powder [CAL: 118. C: 1.2. F: 1.4. P: 25].
755. C: 84.5. F: 17.9. P: 60.1.
 
Meal 3:
Chicken breast, 100g wholewheat pasta, 1/4jar sauce
CAL: 194. C: 0.1. F: 0.8. P: 44.
CAL: 334. C: 62.2. F: 2.5. P: 12.1
CAL: 59. C: 12. F: 0.8. P: 1.6.
TOTAL: 409. C: 42.1. F: 2.2. P: 50.7.
 
Meal 4:
Homemade shake
100g oats [Cals: 376. C: 60.4. F: 8.1. P: 11.]
1 tablespoon peanut butter [Cals: 94. C: 3.13. F: 8.06. P: 4.01]
300ml skimmed milk [Cals: 105. C: 15. F: 0.3. P: 10.2].
100g cottage cheese [Cals: 62. C: 4.7. F: 0.3. P: 10.1]
One scoop protein powder [CAL: 118. C: 1.2. F: 1.4. P: 25].
755. C: 84.5. F: 17.9. P: 60.1.
 
Meal 5:
Five eggs scrambled
CAL: 498. C: 4.89. F: 26.7. P: 32.52
 
Meal 6:
Homemade shake
100g oats [Cals: 376. C: 60.4. F: 8.1. P: 11.]
1 tablespoon peanut butter [Cals: 94. C: 3.13. F: 8.06. P: 4.01]
300ml skimmed milk [Cals: 105. C: 15. F: 0.3. P: 10.2].
100g cottage cheese [Cals: 62. C: 4.7. F: 0.3. P: 10.1]
One scoop protein powder [CAL: 118. C: 1.2. F: 1.4. P: 25].
755. C: 84.5. F: 17.9. P: 60.1.
 
WORKOUT
 
Meal 7:
Pint whole milk, apple.
CAL: 364. C: 27. F: 20. P: 18.
CAL: 71. C: 15.7. F: 0.1. P: 0.5.
TOTAL: 435. C: 42.7. F: 20.1. 18.5
 
TOTAL: 4601. C: 494. F: 116. P: 341.

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Re: 2017/06/17 15:45:08 (permalink)
Got to say, you went ahead and pushed on with the session anyway mate, and that's the difference between someone who fancies doing a bit of training and someone who wants to train and make a difference to themselves.
Managing to push through the training even when your mind, lungs and body are saying I can't do this is what is going to make the difference when you need it most.
Take this as a teachable moment, take a snapshot and store it in your memory and every time you struggle pull the memory to the front of your mind and remember you pushed ahead.
 
Keep up the graft mate.
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Re: 2017/06/17 17:28:05 (permalink)
Still got a bulk of your work in. Do you normally train that late in the evening? If it's affecting you and what you can do then it might work restructuring to make it more workable for your lifestyle. Long high volume sessions are easy for as I train in the morning and no-one else is in the house so it has no bearing on family life in the main

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Re: 2017/06/18 20:38:01 (permalink)
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Got to say, you went ahead and pushed on with the session anyway mate, and that's the difference between someone who fancies doing a bit of training and someone who wants to train and make a difference to themselves.
Managing to push through the training even when your mind, lungs and body are saying I can't do this is what is going to make the difference when you need it most.
Take this as a teachable moment, take a snapshot and store it in your memory and every time you struggle pull the memory to the front of your mind and remember you pushed ahead.
Keep up the graft mate.



I will mate. Thank you. I still wonder if I'm too old for all this though. Missus says mid-life crisis is in full swing.
 
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Still got a bulk of your work in. Do you normally train that late in the evening? If it's affecting you and what you can do then it might work restructuring to make it more workable for your lifestyle. Long high volume sessions are easy for as I train in the morning and no-one else is in the house so it has no bearing on family life in the main

 
Not normally. Friday is always tricky as missus works all day, then oldest has swimming at 8.15pm till 9pm. So one of us takes him [if I'm not working] and the other at home while little ones in bed. So couldn't train till 9.30pm-ish. Normally I am for 10am but can't do this on a Friday.
 
On a side issue, my stomach is looking fat. May tighten cals because it's not pretty.

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Re: 2017/06/19 02:17:25 (permalink)
That's it buddy! Never say die!!!
 
Awesome effort bud. I am interested to see how the test affects your mood in the coming weeks. Animal says that it makes him feel like a  million and a lot of that negativity dissipates.
 
Tighten cals if you must but I'd still ensure a surplus with heaps of protein whilst on gear.
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Re: 2017/06/19 12:30:32 (permalink)
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That's it buddy! Never say die!!!
 Awesome effort bud. I am interested to see how the test affects your mood in the coming weeks. Animal says that it makes him feel like a  million and a lot of that negativity dissipates.
Tighten cals if you must but I'd still ensure a surplus with heaps of protein whilst on gear.



Cheers Brett. Was a little like it today too. I'm blaming squats in the UK heat – it's stifling here in the south east.
 
Last test run made me feel great - as I say, did more for me in 12 weeks than prozac did in 10 years! Sex drive was very high too - not all the time but in waves.
This time it is too early days to tell. I have completed my frontload week using 1250mg over three doses. Nothing much to report apart from what I believe is a shed load of water weight already. Trick is to keep estrogen in check, which is almost damn near impossible without regular blood. Too high and too low have similar symptoms, so what I've done is take quarter of arimidex every three days and judge it from there.
 
19/06/17 9.30am start:
Squats: - target 4x8
46kg x 10 warm-up
66kg x 10 warm-up
90kg x 8
90kg x 8
90kg x 8
90kg x 8
Nice and deep.
 
Flat barbell bench press: - target 4x8
46kg x 10 warm-up
50kg x 10 warm-up
76kg x 8
76kg x 8
76kg x 8
76kg x 8
Dumbell flys one set:
25kg x 12
 
Close-grip bench: - target 3x10
60kg x 10
60kg x 10
60kg x 10
 
Barbell rows: - target 5x10
60kg x 10 warm-up
86kg x 10
86kg x 10
86kg x 10
86kg x 10
86kg x 9
 
Side laterals: - target 3x12
16kg x 10
16kg x 10
16kg x 8 plus two half reps.
 
Time: 1hr 10 mins.
 
Weight: [naked remember, first thing in the morning before food]
Last Monday [12/06/17]: 205lbs .
19/06/17: 211.4lbs.
 
Never been heavier in my life.
May go straight into cut after this 10 weeks, rather than straight into PCT. Depends if I hit 225lbs, which I still think is unlikely. But if I do, considering 6-week cut with anavar/ostarine after this 10-week bulk.

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Re: 2017/06/19 14:48:15 (permalink)
Training today was no fun at all with this heat I agree (and gear won't help that either). Solid work tho. Careful going straight into a cut after making enhanced gains, keeping some AAS will help but while your body isn't really fully reset at with the new mass it can be all too easy to lose it - but you won't be as bad as you think, you'll lose 6 ro 7lbs of water very quickly and that will make you look better

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Re: 2017/06/20 01:55:08 (permalink)
Yup as you said you've noticed water gain so that will be some of the weight right there.
 
Also not too versed in E management, but is arimidex the best thing to use? IIRC it's not a suicide inhibitor so some of the E that's bonded will be released again. I got myself some aromasin for that reason to keep for emergency.
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Re: 2017/06/20 21:03:00 (permalink)
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Training today was no fun at all with this heat I agree (and gear won't help that either). Solid work tho. Careful going straight into a cut after making enhanced gains, keeping some AAS will help but while your body isn't really fully reset at with the new mass it can be all too easy to lose it - but you won't be as bad as you think, you'll lose 6 ro 7lbs of water very quickly and that will make you look better



Cut at end of bulk was just a thought. Nothing set in stone. Will probably just keep to six-week PCT plan.
 
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Yup as you said you've noticed water gain so that will be some of the weight right there.
Also not too versed in E management, but is arimidex the best thing to use? IIRC it's not a suicide inhibitor so some of the E that's bonded will be released again. I got myself some aromasin for that reason to keep for emergency.

 
Used arimidex on last cycle - but only at the tail end when I got bloods and oestrogen was in the 300s! Had no side effects though; no acne or anything. As for it being best thing to take - I knew arimidex and amorasin were different but really not sure. Wouldn't be unlike me to get it all wrong...

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Re: 2017/06/21 06:27:25 (permalink)
Good session there, specially given the warm temps...
Can't believe we moan about the lack of sun, and then when it comes out we moan it is too hot to train LOL
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Re: 2017/06/21 18:04:44 (permalink)
Solid mate....how are you enjoying the cycle?

 
 
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Re: 2017/06/22 10:05:20 (permalink)
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Good session there, specially given the warm temps...
Can't believe we moan about the lack of sun, and then when it comes out we moan it is too hot to train LOL



Cheers. Don't mind the heat to be honest; got a nice tan in the garden this week! But training in it is certainly difficult. I have never sweat so much in my pitiful existence. It has been pouring off me.
 
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Solid mate....how are you enjoying the cycle?

 
Always doubt whether it is solid. Always doubt whether three times a week full body is enough on cycle. But then my default position is always to doubt myself.
 
Cycle seems to be going well so far. This is week one. Done frontload last week but not including that in the official 10-week cycle. So this is week one and second jab in week one is tomorrow [250mg twice a week].
Sex drive has definitely increased. Missus says it's going to be a long 10 weeks! But she also says she loves it when I'm so nice. Must be the improved mood. Other than that, no noticeable changes as too early.
 
21/06/17:
Deadlifts: - target 5x5
60/80/100kg 5/5/5 warm-ups
145kg x 5
145kg x 5
145kg x 5
145kg x 5
145kg x 5
[Starting to really hate deadlifts].
 
OHP: - target 4x8
26/30kg 10/10 warm-ups
52kg x 8
52kg x 8
52kg x 8
52kg x 8
 
Barbell rows: - target 5x10
52kg x 10 warm-up
88kg x 10
88kg x 10
88kg x 10
88kg x 10
88kg x 10
 
Dumbell bench press: - target 3x12
20kg x 12 warm-up
30kg x 15
30kg x 12
30kg x 12
[Need to buy heavier dumbbells. Can't get any more weight on these].
Dumbbell flys: One set: 27kg x 8
 
Time: 1hr. 26mins. [I find this too long].
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Re: 2017/06/22 10:25:48 (permalink)
I don't think that's too long given the workload you're doing. Hell I was taking half hour per exercise on strong lifts 5x5 lol. Good stuff!
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