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Minumun dosages required for atheletic appearance

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Minumun dosages required for atheletic appearance

I have done various bodybuilding cycles previously and found i was very receptive to whatever I take, putting size on very quickly.
My goal now is to achieve more of a muscular atheletic beach body appearance as apposed to a bodbuilder apprearance.

I want to take the minumum dosages possible as not to put on to much additional mass. Can you suggest what is the minumum dosages i should be taking.
I want to avoid looking bulky and water retentive and so would rather not take anything that would give this appearance.

My preference would be to use propionate test. as apposed to any other test.

Can I take Proprionate for the full length of the cycle?
Is taking 250mg a week of testoserone enough or is this to little?

I have listed what I have available to me and would appreciate
appreciate comments.



Proprionate- can i just take this test
Enanthate - tend to hold to much water
Deca
Dianobol tabs 5mg
Stanozol
Arimidex- was going to take this throughout cycle

Thanks again
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    super_soldier
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    RE: Minumun dosages required for atheletic appearance 2005/08/02 05:56:53 (permalink)
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    my mate is the same as you....his holding onto his size and doesnt wanna get any bigga he just does a course of stanazol now and den to harden himself up...nufin else copz he holds water heaps easy....mostly in the face as well

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    RE: Minumun dosages required for atheletic appearance 2005/08/02 06:12:28 (permalink)
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    I have tried this myself in the past. Worked great but was not to sure if this was a good idea not including a test in the cycle. Any Suggestions anyone?
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    RE: Minumun dosages required for atheletic appearance 2005/08/02 07:46:16 (permalink)
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    y u wanna include test if u can get away with just stana while holding onto ur size and getting ripped?

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    RE: Minumun dosages required for atheletic appearance 2005/08/02 08:56:14 (permalink)
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    tren 75mg eod t prop 75-100mg eod, 2 weeks, then 5-6 weeks off and repeat again.

    You'll get about 6-7 of those in a year, with minimal health risk, and for me at least, it works very well.
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    RE: Minumun dosages required for atheletic appearance 2005/08/02 10:01:47 (permalink)
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    zircon what pct do you do with that?

    i'm thinking of doing similar but with 4 week cycles with 8 weeks off in between.

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    RE: Minumun dosages required for atheletic appearance 2005/08/02 10:09:21 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Zircon

    tren 75mg eod t prop 75-100mg eod, 2 weeks, then 5-6 weeks off and repeat again.

    You'll get about 6-7 of those in a year, with minimal health risk, and for me at least, it works very well.


    interesting....I prefer a 4 week cycle these days......better gains and my HPTA still recovers fast....
    Im doing about 700-800mg of BD PRIMOBOLAN per week.....love it! expensive but it kicks ass!
    add about 50mg test prop EOD(MINIMAL ACNE) and it rocks! Im not a pro bodybuilder so I prefer anabolics more than androgenics.....I value my skin LOL

    my 2 cents :) peace all....
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    RE: Minumun dosages required for atheletic appearance 2005/08/02 10:12:47 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: figgy


    ORIGINAL: Zircon

    tren 75mg eod t prop 75-100mg eod, 2 weeks, then 5-6 weeks off and repeat again.

    You'll get about 6-7 of those in a year, with minimal health risk, and for me at least, it works very well.


    interesting....I prefer a 4 week cycle these days......better gains and my HPTA still recovers fast....
    Im doing about 700-800mg of BD PRIMOBOLAN per week.....love it! expensive but it kicks ass!
    add about 50mg test prop EOD(MINIMAL ACNE) and it rocks! Im not a pro bodybuilder so I prefer anabolics more than androgenics.....I value my skin LOL

    my 2 cents :) peace all....



    what gains do you get off 4 weeks of primo?

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    RE: Minumun dosages required for atheletic appearance 2005/08/02 12:55:42 (permalink)
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    Hey,

    I do even lower dose than that - 125mg prop, tren ace 50 mg eod. AAS seem to have quite an effect on me.

    Generally I pick up a total of 3-4 kg in water within about 4 days. Then it slowly creeps up, and stabilises after day 10. 5 days after disconitnuing I'm left with 2.5kg up or so.

    Then a week later I'm up only about 2kg, and 1 week later I'm up to 2.5kg-3kg again, getting great pumps in the gym, generally feeling better than when on AAS. Maybe its cos of that ****ty painful t prop I'm using?

    So anyhow, I count on 2kg muscle/weight gain on a 2 week cycle. I've done 3 in a row like this, but only 4 weeks of between them, and I'm feeling great.

    PCT is only 2 weeks clomid at 50mg, although after every 4th cycle I intend to take a full pct (nolva/clomid) and 6 weeks off or so.

    I can see 4 weeks woul dbe better, the fun starts around day 10 strength wise. I may very well do a 4 week cycle in December. The only reason I've done 2 weekers is because of the apparent lack of complete hpta suppression in cycles less than 2 weeks. The other reason being the painful prop, which is simply ridiculous lol. Finally the reported bad blood lipids only start during week 3 or so, so hopefully it's more healthy what I'm doing.

    Personally I would never go beyond 4 weeks, after the gains I'm getting from 2 weekers so far.

    Interested to hear what your gains/experiences are like.
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    RE: Minumun dosages required for atheletic appearance 2005/08/02 12:58:19 (permalink)
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    Primo is good I'm sure, only thing is it's long ester, but still workable. You could frontload it 2 weeks then let it taper while using dbol/prop in first and last week. Cool thing with short esters is whenever it gets a bit too much (75mg tren eod, is a bit much for me right now, believe it or not), it's easy to back off, it's so simple, no drama.

    So yeh, what were your gains like on this primo?
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    RE: Minumun dosages required for atheletic appearance 2005/08/02 12:59:22 (permalink)
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    Ninja, 4 weekers + 8 week break is good. With full pct then i suppose. I think you'll get more strength and overall gains that way. Only thing is blood lipids, but should still be acceptable for 4 weeks.
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    RE: Minumun dosages required for atheletic appearance 2005/08/02 13:05:21 (permalink)
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    my lipids don't appear to alter very much when on cycle - i've had them monitored now for some time by my doc and she doesn't think the lipid alterations reported with steroids are all that bad - more bad press she recons

    actually just saw here about an hour ago re my helios lumps - which are nothign to worry about and will go away in a week or two. certainly not infected or abcesses tho!

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    RE: Minumun dosages required for atheletic appearance 2005/08/02 13:16:28 (permalink)
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    why are u taking steroids if u dont want a bodybuilders appearance anyway? surely you could achieve the little u want off gear

    Maybe you can handle yourself one of them First Class tickets to the resurrection,So long, Mel, Have a good trip
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    RE: Minumun dosages required for atheletic appearance 2005/08/02 13:31:28 (permalink)
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    ^^^^ personal choice i'd guess

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    RE: Minumun dosages required for atheletic appearance 2005/08/02 19:59:48 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: theweeninjaguy


    ORIGINAL: figgy


    ORIGINAL: Zircon

    tren 75mg eod t prop 75-100mg eod, 2 weeks, then 5-6 weeks off and repeat again.

    You'll get about 6-7 of those in a year, with minimal health risk, and for me at least, it works very well.


    interesting....I prefer a 4 week cycle these days......better gains and my HPTA still recovers fast....
    Im doing about 700-800mg of BD PRIMOBOLAN per week.....love it! expensive but it kicks ass!
    add about 50mg test prop EOD(MINIMAL ACNE) and it rocks! Im not a pro bodybuilder so I prefer anabolics more than androgenics.....I value my skin LOL

    my 2 cents :) peace all....



    what gains do you get off 4 weeks of primo?

    ninja



    I would measure gains more in terms of muscle appearance. I already weigh 220lbs which on my frame is pretty big. All I can say is when I look in the mirror, I have a better appearnace in terms of quality of muscle. Also my strength during workouts is through the roof!. I quit weighing myself lately because I think an OBSESSION with how much I weigh is detrimental to focusing on a GOOD QUALITY WORKOUT. My weight in general tends toward 220lbs. I no longer take roids for the sole purpose of increasing my BODY WEIGHT. Im an old man at 40......just kidding. wish I was as young as some of you guys though. LOL
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    RE: Minumun dosages required for atheletic appearance 2005/08/03 08:50:09 (permalink)
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    Yeah that is a good thing, ignore the scales. I do that as well during cycle in general now, because it screws with your mind when you lose weight lol.

    Reverse anorexia at its best...
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