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2015/02/13 08:49:41 (permalink)
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Moving jobs internally

I've applied for a couple of jobs recently internally where i work - my notice period if i left the company is four weeks but i've been told yesterday that because of how short staffed we are in my area, any internal moves won't be authorised for anywhere from 8 - 12 weeks.
 
Apart from the fact i'd be stuck in a job i don't like for another 2-3 months, the job i've applied for (and had the interview for yesterday (long story)) comes with a significant pay rise - i'd be losing out on around £1000 over the 3 months after tax.
 
can they really do this or would it be worth speaking to the union reps in work?
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Re: Moving jobs internally 2015/02/13 08:57:37 (permalink)
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I would be under the impression that they could do this as you are not handing in your notice, you are moving internally.
I would also consider do you want to rock the boat when you are actually just moving to another department within the same company?
Organisations need to take a holistic view to managing risks and opportunities within the company, and if your move exposes an area they will look at how best to minimise the impact.
Oil companies, when selling assets as going concern (people are sold with the asset) will stop all internal transfers from people who are part of the going concern and have not yet secured a new position.
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Re: Moving jobs internally 2015/02/13 11:39:46 (permalink)
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I work for a bank mate, and from experience, big companies can do anything they want regarding internal recruitment. Your best bet is to really shine in the interview, get the job, tell them your situation and make your new managers put pressure on your old managers to release you early. If someone high up enough kicks up a fuss, they will more than likely let you go.

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Re: Moving jobs internally 2015/02/13 15:28:32 (permalink)
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I think you would do best to say nothing,
 
You havent 'lost' £1000 , because if you didnt get the job in the first place you wouldnt have it. I would be happy with being promoted and the pay rise etc
 
Also the chances are your new salary will probably take effect before you move into the new position anyway, they will probably change your salary straight away once they tell HR etc of your move

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Re: Moving jobs internally 2015/02/14 07:53:53 (permalink)
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I have always found with internal moves, you just need to let your current manager and new manager work it out. Technically you are not leaving the company so in reality any contracted notice period doesn't have to be looked at but may be used as a guide at best.

If it gets tricky and the managers can't come to a compromise it will just up being escalated.
If your current manager and new manager report to the same person then chances are they will just end up putting their cases to him/her and they make a decision.

But also mentioned you haven't got the job yet, so you have lost nothing
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Re: Moving jobs internally 2015/02/14 18:09:14 (permalink)
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I work for a bank mate, and from experience, big companies can do anything they want regarding internal recruitment. Your best bet is to really shine in the interview, get the job, tell them your situation and make your new managers put pressure on your old managers to release you early. If someone high up enough kicks up a fuss, they will more than likely let you go.



I agree. If your new manager likes you enough, he'll try to negotiate an earlier transfer. This is your best option in my experience.
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Re: Moving jobs internally 2015/02/23 23:37:39 (permalink)
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as an update to this thread, i got this new job, which i'm happy about, but the start date i'm not - 2nd week in June.
 
it's something to look forward to but it's pissing me right off that it's 14 weeks away.
 
another thing that's bugging me is that today i've gone back after a week off to find out we're that busy, people who moved to different areas of the business (but in the same building) have had their training halted for 2 weeks and dragged back into our area. people who are now on much higher pay bands (as i will be) and have exams to prepare for (mortgage advisers) are being told they're going back to their old jobs for a minimum of 2 weeks. i know this'll happen to me because they couldn't organise a piss up.
 
my job's making me really stressed out recently, not because it's hard, because it isn't, i just hate the role and to find out now i'll be drafted back at will is not making me feel any better.
 
sorry for the rant
post edited by faipdeooiad - 2015/02/23 23:43:02
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Re: Moving jobs internally 2015/02/24 00:11:48 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby faipdeooiad 2015/02/24 00:16:39
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Maybe an alternative would be to ask your manager about a staggered transfer. So once your area has died down a bit, ask to spend an afternoon or two a week with your new team, that way your current manager has you as resource and you can start the training for your new role, making it easier when you officially move across. Also great for networking :)


 
 
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Re: Moving jobs internally 2015/02/24 00:17:14 (permalink)
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i've not thought of that - i'll raise it with my manager on wednesday and see if it's possible - cheers
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Re: Moving jobs internally 2015/02/24 09:38:20 (permalink)
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faipdeooiad
i've not thought of that - i'll raise it with my manager on wednesday and see if it's possible - cheers




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