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2014/11/17 15:20:46 (permalink)Blog

MuscleTalk & James Collier Part Ways with UKBFF

By James Collier, MuscleTalk Co-Owner
 
I have decided to part ways with the United Kingdom Bodybuilding & Fitness Federation (UKBFF) as I’m not happy about some decisions that have been made by the people who run it.
 
I started working with the Federation in 2008 and we held our first UKBFF sanctioned event in 2010: The UKBFF MuscleTalk Championships.  I have enjoyed working alongside the federation and I love a lot of what the UKBFF and IFBB do for bodybuilding; there are some great people working within the federation, some of whom have become friends.
 
However, due in part to some recent events, working alongside the UKBFF has meant it has ceased to be a positive experience.  In particular I’m not happy over the issues regarding the Lee Priest Tour by Muscle Promotions; many of you will have read comments on social media. One gym due to hold a seminar, was Simon Fan’s Ultimate Fitness Gym in Birmingham: just a short while before the seminar was due to start, Simon received a text saying that if he allowed Lee Priest to appear at his gym, Simon could no longer work with the UKBFF / IFBB as Lee Priest is an athlete banned for life.  It was too late for Simon to cancel as he had sold tickets and his gym members were looking forward to it.  Simon worked with Neil Hill and me in 2011 to bring back IFBB Grand Prix Pro Bodybuilding to the UK.  Although the show was a major success, we had a lot of stress and Simon took a significant financial hit, as he did again in 2012 when the IFBB Grand Prix was held at SportEx.  Simon has been at the pinnacle of UK bodybuilding since and has been working with the UKBFF/IFBB. Simon and I have a great relationship and I think the way he’s been treated by the federation is unfair, especially considering what he’s sacrificed.
 
There were also issues with other gyms who proposed to hold seminars and, although I don’t agree with the way Muscle Promotions have handled things, I do respect their points. This, as well as a couple of other issues, has meant working alongside the UKBFF has become a negative experience for me. These issues include tanning and the fact that they no longer support the wheelchair class in bodybuilding.  I do wish to thank Bill & Wanda Tierney for sanctioning our show over the past few years and I’ve enjoyed a good working relationship with them and other members of the UKBFF; I will miss working under the UKBFF in many ways.  Bodybuilding and fitness shows should be a positive thing and with what’s going on at the moment, there is too much negativity and this is not good for the sport.
 
This decision is purely my own and is not influenced by anyone in any way and those concerned know my feelings. The MuscleTalk Championships will continue to run and, working alongside Luke Nichols as always, will be held in the usual venue – Bedford Corn Exchange – on 28th June 2015 and will feature bodybuilding and fitness classes: details to follow soon.  I will continue to work with bodybuilders and fitness competitors and will still be involved in the scene: you’ll be seeing a lot more of me and MuscleTalk yet!
 
 
I can be contacted on:
e: james@muscletalk.co.uk
w: www.MuscleTalk.co.uk
f: www.facebook.com/JamesCollierMuscletalk
 

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Re: MuscleTalk & James Collier Part Ways with UKBFF 2014/11/17 15:39:58 (permalink)
It's a shame and understandable

 
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Re: MuscleTalk & James Collier Part Ways with UKBFF 2014/11/17 16:49:30 (permalink)
Is their really anything left of the UKBFF?, never heard good things about them.
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Re: MuscleTalk & James Collier Part Ways with UKBFF 2014/11/17 17:00:20 (permalink)
I saw Rambo's video on facebook last night, the ball is rolling. i doubt the UKBFF will last much longer....

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Re: MuscleTalk & James Collier Part Ways with UKBFF 2014/11/17 17:08:23 (permalink)
Shame to hear but a good move James.

Those pair of idiots need removing from the UKBFF before they bring the whole thing to its knees.
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Re: MuscleTalk & James Collier Part Ways with UKBFF 2014/11/17 17:39:03 (permalink)
Sounds like absolutely the right choice, James.

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Re: MuscleTalk & James Collier Part Ways with UKBFF 2014/11/17 17:40:26 (permalink)
I was waiting to see how you would react James. Full respect for pulling away for your own reasons. It's their loss because I've only heard great things about your show, I just hope they don't try and stop you continuing with that!! I might even come and visit now it's independent as I've always vowed never to watch a UKBFF show unless I have a close friend in the comp!! My one woman protest is growing totally unrelated LOL
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Re: MuscleTalk & James Collier Part Ways with UKBFF 2014/11/17 17:40:56 (permalink)
Is that not going to really hurt sponsorship overall for them?...its pretty damn piss poor way of doing things.
 
The whole thing they have against Priest only shows how fcuked the Feds are overall.
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Re: MuscleTalk & James Collier Part Ways with UKBFF 2014/11/17 18:42:28 (permalink)
I've not been to any shows for a while now, but from talking to & listening to folks on Facebook etc and hearing things through the grapevine its felt like the UKBFF has been crumbling. the last show I went to was the Kent Klassic the year Cecil won the British & most of the classes other than classic were empty! 
 
From an outside looking in perspective, its felt like the whole thing is held together by a network of mutual respect among the athletes and promotors , with very few people having much respect for the management itself,  seeing it as a necessary evil more than anything else. It certainly does seem like the fed is run for the benefit of the itself rather than representing the athletes. On the opposite side of the coin, the sport does seem to have a lot of bloody good people cut from the same cloth as James, that live and breath to promote the sport & realise that the athletes are the most important part.  these are the type of folks that should be running bodybuilding in the UK. 
 

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Re: MuscleTalk & James Collier Part Ways with UKBFF 2014/11/17 19:01:18 (permalink)
Politics in sport.  A terrible thing. 
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Re: MuscleTalk & James Collier Part Ways with UKBFF 2014/11/17 19:43:50 (permalink)
Where will all the men's and women's bikini classes go if the UKBFF crumbles?
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Re: MuscleTalk & James Collier Part Ways with UKBFF 2014/11/17 19:49:55 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby gingernut 2014/11/17 22:27:43
WBFF, Musclemania, NAC, IFBA maybe some to Nabba in different classes. Plenty options and freedom to choose!!
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Re: MuscleTalk & James Collier Part Ways with UKBFF 2014/11/17 22:26:38 (permalink)
IBFA is up and coming and I hope to sneak into one of their shows next summer, I'd also think about slipping into the Corn Exchange too, can you permit Dream Tan please?I like it as a thin top coat on top of LSR! Thanks.
 


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Re: MuscleTalk & James Collier Part Ways with UKBFF 2014/11/18 11:37:39 (permalink)
WGBM
I saw Rambo's video on facebook last night, the ball is rolling. i doubt the UKBFF will last much longer....


Lambo not Rambo LOL! It was a good video.  Lambo and I are close friends, but I didn't know he was doing that vid til it was up; but he came across well and, as my name was mentioned, I can varify that part was 100% correct.
 

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Re: MuscleTalk & James Collier Part Ways with UKBFF 2014/11/18 11:40:24 (permalink)
Link to vid?
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Re: MuscleTalk & James Collier Part Ways with UKBFF 2014/11/18 11:49:11 (permalink)
James can I ask given your connections with Lambo etc, what was the reaction from bill and Wanda like when you told you were stepping down?

On a side note this has made things simple for me! I am hoping to compete in 2016 but given all the recent issues with Ukbff wanted to steer clear! But at the same time wanted to the MT show, as I have done it before to support James as he has helped me out in the past! Now with it no longer be connected to the Ukbff I have no dilemma to worry about!
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Re: MuscleTalk & James Collier Part Ways with UKBFF 2014/11/18 12:44:25 (permalink)
Good luck James
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Re: 2014/11/18 12:56:40 (permalink)
Theyre reaping what they've sowed. Probably should have been stood up to years ago but takes that one person to start it. Hard to belive bullying can be rife in a sport populated by big men but I suppose its in most aspects of life sadly.
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Re: MuscleTalk & James Collier Part Ways with UKBFF 2014/11/18 13:18:22 (permalink)
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I was waiting to see how you would react James. Full respect for pulling away for your own reasons. It's their loss because I've only heard great things about your show, I just hope they don't try and stop you continuing with that!! I might even come and visit now it's independent as I've always vowed never to watch a UKBFF show unless I have a close friend in the comp!! My one woman protest is growing totally unrelated LOL


It was not an easy decsion and one that had been given thought over the past few weeks.  One comment Bill made on the phone yesterday afternoon made me 100% certain that I had phoned up to leave them for the right reason.  Bill told me there was no 'middle' implying that I had to choose sides.  Even if I 100% disgreed with my friend being asked to choose between a friend and something else is a no brainer.
 
We'd love to see you at the show - free tickets for MT mods!

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Re: MuscleTalk & James Collier Part Ways with UKBFF 2014/11/18 13:20:49 (permalink)
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Link to vid?


It's a FB vid, as on YT, Lambo feared that if the UKBFF complained, YT would simply remove it without debate.  On FB it can be shared meaning it's out there more.
It can be viewed through my FB page: https://www.facebook.com/JamesCollierMuscletalk

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