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2015/02/18 16:13:39 (permalink)
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Music thread

Most people enjoy listening to music be it in a casual sense or even as an obsession. Personally mine is the second category; It's always been a big part of my life.
 
So on this thread we can chat about the music and performers we love and hate. It's intended as a discussion area rather than a place to randomly post YouTube vids, but that's up to you.
 
I'll begin with a question: Are The Beatles overrated? Discuss...
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Re: Music thread 2015/02/18 17:54:54 (permalink)
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I suppose with the Beatles its about the time period. If i compare it to the music of today that i like id say they are only ok at best. But if you compare them to what was about in their day its a different story.
1 day Michael Jackson might be seen as over rated by a younger generation

Its strange how your taste changes how you get older. I look at the boy groups( i refuse to call them bands) of my youth for example and think Nsync and backstreet boys did some decent songs for boy groups, where as the likes of 1 direction are total guff even for a boy group

  




 
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Re: Music thread 2015/02/18 18:35:55 (permalink)
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I feel The Beatles were a reasonable boy band (let's face it they were a boy band) there was reasonable song writing talent and reasonable instrument playing ability. But let's face it, they didn't have amazing voices and none were immense musicians they simply appealed to the general public.
Now take FleetWood Mac. They are under-rated!
I would still say my fav FWM songs are
Big Love
Lies
Everywhere
Man of the World

That will do for now


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Re: Music thread 2015/02/18 19:02:02 (permalink)
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Grew up with my dad signing The Beatles tunes constantly.

ESily in my Top 5 artists of all time. Would give my left one to of seen them live!
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Re: Music thread 2015/02/18 19:56:37 (permalink)
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They were an amazing band with a huge influence. Def not overrated to me. Off course they are one of my fav bands and if you don't love them you'll probably feel they are overrated.
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Re: Music thread 2015/02/18 20:05:03 (permalink)
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The Beatles were the most influential band of all time. Fair enough they were a 'boy band' as such for the first few years but matured extraordinarily quickly into an outfit of great ability.
Paul McCartney is virtually unrivalled in his melodic sense. Perhaps equalled as a songwriter by only Dylan, Smokey Robinson, Johnny Cash, Ray Davies and Brian Wilson in the sixties generation. So many artists recognise The Beatles as the greatest band in history.

They are in my top three personally though my favourite is Pink Floyd (hence "Floydy") and Bruce Springsteen second. Personal taste.

I love it when Dazzz mentioned One Dimension (as I will always refer to them) as a 'group' and not a 'band'. However long they last and how unbelieveably massive they have become, they can never be on a par with a band such as The Beatles. They are the boy outfit of the moment and that is it.
They will be surpassed by another random group, fade away and reform in a few years time a la Take That, Boyzone and Blue. McBusted my arse! But the kids love 'em and that's where the market is.

Going back to The Beatles. When Noel Gallagher said after two Oasis albums that they were bigger, it always made me chuckle.
Gallagher was the cleverest pilferer of sixties music in history. He took shades of The Beatles, Stones, Kinks, Small Faces and The Who and threw it all in his melting pot.
What he came up with was Oasis. And if you have ever heard The Beatles' "Rain" (b-side of Paperback Writer, 1966), everything Oasis ever recorded can be heard in that three-minute song.
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Re: Music thread 2015/02/18 20:26:09 (permalink)
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Beatles are class, watching Australian Pink Floyd next month.
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Re: Music thread 2015/02/18 20:29:02 (permalink)
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Grew up with my dad signing The Beatles tunes constantly.



ESily in my Top 5 artists of all time. Would give my left one to of seen them live!




Your dad signed The Beatles?
Talk about a claim to fame mate


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Re: Music thread 2015/02/18 20:37:49 (permalink)
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Floydy
The Beatles were the most influential band of all time. Fair enough they were a 'boy band' as such for the first few years but matured extraordinarily quickly into an outfit of great ability.
Paul McCartney is virtually unrivalled in his melodic sense. Perhaps equalled as a songwriter by only Dylan, Smokey Robinson, Johnny Cash, Ray Davies and Brian Wilson in the sixties generation. So many artists recognise The Beatles as the greatest band in history.

They are in my top three personally though my favourite is Pink Floyd (hence "Floydy") and Bruce Springsteen second. Personal taste.

I love it when Dazzz mentioned One Dimension (as I will always refer to them) as a 'group' and not a 'band'. However long they last and how unbelieveably massive they have become, they can never be on a par with a band such as The Beatles. They are the boy outfit of the moment and that is it.
They will be surpassed by another random group, fade away and reform in a few years time a la Take That, Boyzone and Blue. McBusted my arse! But the kids love 'em and that's where the market is.

Going back to The Beatles. When Noel Gallagher said after two Oasis albums that they were bigger, it always made me chuckle.
Gallagher was the cleverest pilferer of sixties music in history. He took shades of The Beatles, Stones, Kinks, Small Faces and The Who and threw it all in his melting pot.
What he came up with was Oasis. And if you have ever heard The Beatles' "Rain" (b-side of Paperback Writer, 1966), everything Oasis ever recorded can be heard in that three-minute song.

To be fair to Noel he's never denied Oasis are a carbon copy of the Beatles. FWIW probably my favourite band, grew up with the whole brit-pop scene which was awesome.
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Re: Re: Music thread 2015/02/18 20:44:17 (permalink)
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Beatles are class, watching Australian Pink Floyd next month.

Oh mate. Wow you will be knocked out by the Aussie Floyd. Last time I saw them was in Leeds last year. Fantastic!
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Re: Re: Music thread 2015/02/18 20:44:58 (permalink)
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Grew up with my dad signing The Beatles tunes constantly.



ESily in my Top 5 artists of all time. Would give my left one to of seen them live!




Your dad signed The Beatles?
Talk about a claim to fame mate


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Re: 2015/02/18 21:33:56 (permalink)
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Seen the Australian pink floyd in birmingham a few years back btilliant night.
The doors are a good listen some of morrisons lyrics dark and deep
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Re: 2015/02/18 21:53:56 (permalink)
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My music taste is sh*t if i put my iphone on shuffle and wrote the title of the ten songs that  came up you would all laugh at me, that being said. It always annoys me when people compare artists.
I don't think you can compare the 1D and the Beatles... Its like comparing someone who has just got an A in science with Einstein. If 1D fade away then yes fair enough, what happens in fifty years when one of them is 'virtually unrivalled in his melodic sense' and they've had 40 Platinum albums because as there target audience has changed they have adapted with them and stayed popular.
Same as oasis and beatles they both influenced new bands, but when it comes down to it beatles have sold more records... but theyve been around longer. Oaisis have played to more people because going to see live music is easier i mean venues and tickets have come along way.
The only way you can compare bands is if there the same genre and time frame... Oasis and Blur for exapmple and most the time it comes down to personal choice.
 
Heres a good game for this thread... play music on shuffle press shuffle once name the song that comes on!
No lying now....
 
I'm with you - Avril Lavigne... wish i never came up with this stupid game now...

 
 
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Re: 2015/02/18 22:11:30 (permalink)
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Music shuffled - Rosie Gaines - Closer than Close
 
Majority of my music is 90's dance/house - Ministry of Sound/Manumission/Cream/Prodigy that kind of stuff. Got a fair bit of hip hop/rap as well, naughty by nature/ludacris/eminem/Q tip
 
Other random stuff - Red Hot Chilli Peppers/Jamiroquai/Queen/The Who/Michael Jackson
 
Current favorite is Ray Charles, have all of his albums, usually have it on low in the background at home if it's quiet.

 



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Re: Music thread 2015/02/18 22:18:56 (permalink)
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Good idea.
Shuffled now -
Renaissance 'The Day Of The Dreamer"
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Re: Music thread 2015/02/19 01:29:05 (permalink)
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First, last, best and worst bands you've seen live?
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Re: Music thread 2015/02/19 05:35:06 (permalink)
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When Doves Cry - Prince.
 
First Band - Terrorvision
Last Band - Ian Brown
Best Band - Major Lazer (their live shows are just immense)
Worst Band - Ian Brown (what a waste of standing in the heat to watch a clapped out waster whine on a mike)
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Re: Music thread 2015/02/19 06:39:49 (permalink)
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Seen live:
First - Siousxsie & The Banshees (Bridlington 1979, aged 14 with me dad)
Last - Rival Sons (Sheffield last December)
Best - Bruce Springsteen (always great but best gig probably Wembley Stadium 1985)
Worst - Lightning Seeds (Hull City Hall 1996).

Last track on car CD this morning:
Elvis - Blue Suede Shoes.
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Re: Music thread 2015/02/19 08:07:54 (permalink)
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I love the Beatles.  My Dad wasn't a big music person but had the Beatles stuff on cassette.  I got into them off the back of being an Oasis fan at the time and was blown away by their music that I'd always presumed was just old rubbish.  I'll never forget realising how many Beatles songs we used to sing at junior school and I just presumed they were kids songs.  Octopuses Garden, Yellow Submarine, Obla Dee, Yesterday, Imagine....... probably more.  I can only presume our music teacher must have been a fan.  
 
Personally I think they shaped music and turned it into something different.  
 
My favourite band is a band called Counting Crows.  I adore them.  Great songs and amazing lyrics.  I discovered them in my early 20's when they'd got a couple of albums out.  I've seen them live about 4 times now when they come to the UK.  I constantly find new meaning in their songs/lyrics and have even had a quote tattoo'd on me recently.  I'm just glad they're still going as they're knocking on a bit now but I hope they keep going for a long time as they only get better.
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Re: Music thread 2015/02/19 12:46:59 (permalink)
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so what does everyone think of the Kanye West and Paul McCartney song ?
 
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