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2011/04/07 20:35:33 (permalink)
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My New Cycle - critique and comments welcomed!

Well I am keeping it simple for now given I cannot be faffed with more than 2 jabs a week at the moment (I am never home so would have to carry a lot of stuff with me) so am going for a simple and low cycle:
 
Week 1-4 30mg Dbol
Week 1-15 500mg Test E/Sus mix (last of my pharma Oh No!)
Week 16-20 (and maybe longer) 600mg Test Prop, possibly 80mg Var as well unsure if it would be necessary though.
Week 1-20 25mg Prov. because I like it
 
Aromsin and Letro on hand as gyno will definately prop up at some point.
 
HCG to be run as and when first atrophy signs pop up
PCT will be a 4 or 5 week Nolva/Clomid std. protocol. Not sure if I need to run anything else - actually this is where advice would be welcomed - any other suggestions for PCT? I normally don't go beyond these two.
 
I've already started as well - yum yum *eats 8 egg ommelette*

Still waiting to dead 300kg...... 
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    Medichecks
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    Re:My New Cycle - critique and comments welcomed! 2011/04/07 23:35:26 (permalink)
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    What have your previous cycles been like mate and what are your current stats?
    What are your goals from this cycle?
    Its going to take you the best part of 6months for this.
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    Re:My New Cycle - critique and comments welcomed! 2011/04/07 23:46:01 (permalink)
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    Previous experience is just 12 weeks cycles with test bases and orals run alongside. No experience of tren. Probably never will either. Have probably not done as many meds as I would like to think given the advice I bang on about on here sometimes. Current stats are 6'3" 100kg dead and bf% unknown as I havent had it tested and do not trust the electronic impedance ones, although abs are all there.
     
    Goals are 10kg to be gained, maintaining my bf levels and hopefully seeing some strength increases as well. I am really only concerned about size though as all my work previous to this has been strength based/concerned.
     
    I was going to make it shorter (12/14 weeks), but I would suspect if I went with something shorter and didn't get to where I wanted I would go back on quicker, so would prefer not to mess about with PCT meds and not recover properly, and deal with a harder recovery at a later date.]
     
    So yeah, 6 months on and inc. PCT, then 6 months off is the plan.

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    Re:My New Cycle - critique and comments welcomed! 2011/04/08 00:18:39 (permalink)
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    Fair enough so mate. Would you consider deca?
    wks 1-15 Ent/sus 500mg, adex 1mg EOD.
    wks 1-14 deca 300mg EW,
     
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    Re:My New Cycle - critique and comments welcomed! 2011/04/08 09:35:08 (permalink)
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    I have deca with me - I was debating running it as well but just decided against so as to keep it simple this time around. Have aromasin so would use that instead of the adex though.
     
    You would advise against the 20 weeks?

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    Re:My New Cycle - critique and comments welcomed! 2011/04/08 09:59:31 (permalink)
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    Cycle looks/sounds fine to me mate, I would consider adding Aromasin during your PCT as you have it to hand and it will help a lot.
    Good luck and enjoy!!
     
    Bigfella.

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    Re:My New Cycle - critique and comments welcomed! 2011/04/08 10:40:46 (permalink)
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    Cheers BF. Will take the advice and use Aromasin through PCT.

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    Re:My New Cycle - critique and comments welcomed! 2011/04/08 12:32:40 (permalink)
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    looks solid cycle to me
    I would add some tren E into the mix though but thats just me

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    Re:My New Cycle - critique and comments welcomed! 2011/04/08 12:35:58 (permalink)
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    Haha I was tempted... but no. Not this time. I'll only turn to tren when I feel I need it, and right now I get decent gains off of simpler stuff. Also, I generally get sides of off anything, so you can imagine how Tren E would treat me!

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    Re:My New Cycle - critique and comments welcomed! 2011/04/08 12:50:01 (permalink)
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    im lucky apart from the night sweats im ok !
    Good call only add / up dose when gains stop / slow down
     
    I cant wait to have lean bulk again I feel tiny atm

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    Re:My New Cycle - critique and comments welcomed! 2011/04/08 12:56:16 (permalink)
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    Exactly how I was feeling. I've already got my swagger back in the gym haha....

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    Re:My New Cycle - critique and comments welcomed! 2011/04/08 21:55:09 (permalink)
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    I agree add aromasin in your PCT 25 mg a day its the dogs bollox for PCT. kills all estrogen and raises Test levels by 50 %.

    My body is like a Walking Chemical Factory.
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    Re:My New Cycle - critique and comments welcomed! 2011/04/08 23:05:25 (permalink)
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    Really? How does it raise test that much I thought it was only really effective at estrogen suppression! Oh that has made me happier. I learn new things each day!

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    Re:My New Cycle - critique and comments welcomed! 2011/04/09 00:56:31 (permalink)
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    test and deca i say mate.

    If anything willl put 10kg on you with your good grasp when it comes to the nutrition side it's a test/deca/dbol mix! I'm quite enjoying test/deca/eq... vascularity is literally ridiculous and i'm only 8 days in! madness! Strength hasn't kicked in at all yet, still weak as fvck after 6 weeks off!

    I'd go for test/deca/dbol in your boots!

    If it didn't make my face look like i'd had several heavy strokes and an attack of severe anaphalaxis i'd be on dbol as well!
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    Re:My New Cycle - critique and comments welcomed! 2011/04/11 10:08:41 (permalink)
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    MrBurn

    Really? How does it raise test that much I thought it was only really effective at estrogen suppression! Oh that has made me happier. I learn new things each day!

    Here is a study mate -

    Pharmacokinetics and Dose Finding of a Potent Aromatase Inhibitor,
    Aromasin (Exemestane), in Young Males
    Nelly Mauras, John Lima, Deval Patel, Annie Rini, Enrico di Salle,
    Ambrose Kwok and Barbara Lippe
    Nemours Children’s Clinic and Research Programs (N.M., J.L., A.R.),
    Jacksonville, Florida 32207; and University of Florida Health
    Sciences Center (D.P.) and Amersham Pharmacia Biotech (E.d.S.,
    A.K., B.L.), Peapack, New Jersey 07977

    Suppression of estrogen, via estrogen receptor or aromatase
    blockade, is being investigated in the treatment of different
    conditions. Exemestane (Aromasin) is a potent and selective
    irreversible aromatase inhibitor. To characterize its suppression
    of estrogen and its pharmacokinetic (PK) properties in males,
    healthy eugonadal subjects (14–26 yr of age) were recruited. In a
    cross-over study, 12 were randomly assigned to 25 and 50 mg
    exemestane daily, orally, for 10 d with a 14-d washout period.
    Blood was withdrawn before and 24 h after the last dose of each
    treatment period. A PK study was performed (n = 10) using a 25-mg
    dose. Exemestane suppressed plasma estradiol comparably with either
    dose [25 mg, 38% (P  0.002); 50 mg, 32% (P  0.008)], with a
    reciprocal increase in testosterone concentrations (60% and 56%; P
    0.003 for both). Plasma lipids and IGF-I concentrations were
    unaffected by treatment. The PK properties of the 25-mg dose showed
    the highest exemestane concentrations 1 h after administration,
    indicating rapid absorption. The terminal half-life was 8.9 h.
    Maximal estradiol suppression of 62 ± 14% was observed at 12 h. The
    drug was well tolerated. In conclusion, exemestane is a potent
    aromatase inhibitor in men and an alternative to the choice of
    available inhibitors. Long-term efficacy and safety will need
    further study.



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    gaz_0001
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    Re:My New Cycle - critique and comments welcomed! 2011/04/11 10:40:55 (permalink)
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    Wouldnt bother with a 20 week cycle.
    Your receptors are exhausted by week 8, and gains rapidly diminish after this point.
     
    Also if you follow Time On + PCT = Time Off     I bet you would gain better on 2 x 8 week cycles.
    Using the time on time off principle, you would be just starting your 3rd 8 week cycle, by the time you have finished this 20 week one.
     
    Just my opinion though.
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    Re:My New Cycle - critique and comments welcomed! 2011/04/11 10:46:40 (permalink)
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    Sounds good to me Mr Burn ,are you off on your hols at the end off this 20 weeks growing ? .
    Prop and Var at the end and have CV in place and see what  gains have been made after the prop Var lean up stage .
     
    The only thing i think you could add apart from peptide is low dose T3 25mg-50mg.
     
    Ref;Aromas and Test levels.
    Will it work only when Test levels are low and help rise them, when PCT timing is in place .?
    And will have no affect on natural test porducetion when on Test as levels are high away and does there job on the suppression of estrogen,only?
     
    Daz
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    laptop on the job 
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    Re:My New Cycle - critique and comments welcomed! 2011/04/11 11:38:38 (permalink)
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    gaz - do you have PROOF about receptor deficiency after 8 weeks? I HIGHLY doubt I would make better gains off of 2 8 week cycles to be honest.
     
    forddee - Re. Peptide and T3 use - while available to me, i'm not sure I would see the benefits (and to be honest, i'm not sure where to start, IGF, GHRP6, CJC etc. etc. all letters that don't make much sense at the moment!). Thanks for the clarification around the var though, am thinking I will probably use it now. Yeah I wil be heading off to Ghana at the end of this cycle! (Did I say that on here or was it a lucky guess?)
     
    Bigfella - thanks!

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    Re:My New Cycle - critique and comments welcomed! 2011/04/11 11:44:13 (permalink)
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    MrBurn I am on a blast and cruise but when I decide to come off I will run
     
    HCG in clearance then

    ROHM pct caps 30 days
    25mg aromasin a day
     
    So that would be clomid, nolva, aromasin, proviron, pt 141 all in PCT hopefully covering many angles :)
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    Re:My New Cycle - critique and comments welcomed! 2011/04/11 12:03:10 (permalink)
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    Haha, those ROHM caps seem to do everything. Are they really as good as they appear?

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