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2009/07/20 23:26:35 (permalink)

My next cycle

Hello guys. First of all let me introduce myself.  My name is biggerstrongerfaster
 
Im 22years old , 6'1 , 93kgs . b/f 18%.
 
Last year I did a sust only cycle without doing proper research! I gained roughly 10kgs in as many weeks and guess that 75% of that gain was water/fat through eating ALOT! There wasnt alot of lean gain there at all!
 
Ive taken a lot of time searching these forums to do some proper research. Heres what ive come up with:
 
week 1: sust 250mg
week 2 : sust 500mg deca 250mg (10mg Nolva every night before bed)
week 3: sust 500mg deca 250mg (10mg Nolva every night before bed)
week 4: sust 500mg deca 250mg (10mg Nolva every night before bed)
week 5: sust 500mg deca 250mg (10mg Nolva every night before bed)
week 6: sust 500mg deca 250mg (10mg Nolva every night before bed)
week 7: sust 500mg deca 250mg (10mg Nolva every night before bed)
week 8 : deca 250mg (10mg Nolva every night before bed)
week 9 (PCT) : Nolva 40mg ed Clomid 50mg ed
week 10 (PCT) : Nolva 20mg ed Clomid 50mg ed
Week 11 (PCT) : Nolva 20mg ed
 
Whats your opinions guys?
 
cheers
 
BFS
 
 
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    biggerstrongerfaster
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    Re:My next cycle 2009/07/20 23:27:47 (permalink)
    just want to point out that I will be doing 250mg Sust on mondays and 250mg sust / 250mg Deca on thursdays.
     
    Im hoping for a leaner gain this time and will be happy with 5-6kgs.
     
    Im going to control my diet and fight the hunger! I remember that on the last cycle the hunger pains where something I wont forget! I could eat for England!
     
    Controlled carbs , high protein and alot of cardio this time round I think...
     
    BSF
    post edited by biggerstrongerfaster - 2009/07/20 23:31:07
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    Re:My next cycle 2009/07/20 23:47:18 (permalink)
    elliotuk

    i wouldnt bother taking the nolva all the way through the cycle unless youre massively prone to gyno. Just have it at hand in case of any symptoms, no point in taking uneccessary meds, and ive heard that taking nolva all the way through the cycle can actually hinder your gains.


    Thanks for the reply. The only reason I concidered it was the good old 'better safe than sorry' approach
     
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    Keane
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    Re:My next cycle 2009/07/21 00:29:06 (permalink)
    You shouldn't take Nolva with Deca if you do get gyno or even without, it will make it worse. 
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    Re:My next cycle 2009/07/21 07:27:56 (permalink)
    A Q im currently asking in my thread but is relevant here

    For lean gains is test and Arimidex any good?  I too only want lean gains.

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    Re:My next cycle 2009/07/21 09:17:26 (permalink)
    just wondering why are you only shotting 250mg for the first week? surely that pointless and it will take longer for test levels in the body to stabilize?

    someone correct me if im wrong but deca being a long ester pct should be started 2 to 3 weeks after last injection? is it really worth doing just 7 weeks? why the odd time scale ?
    why not run;

    week 1 - 10 500mg sust and 250mg deca
    week 13(PCT) : Nolva 40mg ed Clomid 50mg ed
    week 14(PCT) : Nolva 20mg ed Clomid 50mg ed
    Week 15(PCT) : Nolva 20mg ed
     
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    Re:My next cycle 2009/07/21 10:39:38 (permalink)
    No need to take nolva throughout the course.
    Why are you taking only sus in wk 1 and at a lower dose??
    Why only deca the last week?
    Your PCT starts to soon.

    Try:
    wk 1-9 Sus 500mg Deca 250mg,
    Wk 10: Sus 500 mg:
    wk 13 Start 21 day PCT
    post edited by jnr2006 - 2009/07/21 12:35:41
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    Re:My next cycle 2009/07/21 10:40:50 (permalink)
    Mickey123

    A Q im currently asking in my thread but is relevant here

    For lean gains is test and Arimidex any good?  I too only want lean gains.


    Adex will keep off bloat so you should get dry lean gains if your diet is good.
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    Re:My next cycle 2009/07/21 10:57:49 (permalink)
    nolva is useless in that cycle, why are you running deca longer than sust and why are you tapering up

    id go with
     weeks 1-10 500mg sust
    weeks 1-10 350 deca
    0.5mg adex e3d

    pct nolva 60/40/20 starting week 13 -16 60mg day 1 40mg day 2-11 20mg day 12-21

    started at 68kg
    PB,s
    bench: 170kg 3 reps cg 155kg single
    deadlift: 5 reps 245kg 1RM 260kg @knee height
    squat: 200 kg 2 reps
    clean and press 100kg 2 rep 110 1RM
    weight:108kg bf 14%~
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