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2019/02/13 15:38:16 (permalink)
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NHS HAS ACCEPED ME FOR TRT HELP

Long story short after about a year of testing and mri scan I thought they wouldn’t accept me as I was low normal at 7.44nmol or 8nmol and 6.5nmol .... anyways I went private I’m on sus 0.5ml every week from a. Dr... and hcg 500ui 3x a week ( havnt started hcg yet )

He said because I went private it’s abit of a issue but his happy to treat me with sus but not in the same dosage I can only have sus 250mg every 3 weeks ... I know my self that’s not good at all! But it’s free on nhs plus blood test and stuff so I’m stuck on what to do..... any thoughts ?
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    Re: NHS HAS ACCEPED ME FOR TRT HELP 2019/02/13 15:50:33 (permalink)
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    It's never a short story with you mate 😉...as the saying goes 'Don't look a gift horse in the mouth' take the NHS TRT you're lucky as most get fobbed off, run the Sust for 6 months and see how things go, don't fcuk with stuff in the meantime and assess things then. Getting hormone levels correct is totally individual, it's hard, takes patience and time to get right.
     
    Remember "patience and time"" good luck 👍

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    Re: NHS HAS ACCEPED ME FOR TRT HELP 2019/02/13 16:22:29 (permalink)
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    It's never a short story with you mate 😉...as the saying goes 'Don't look a gift horse in the mouth' take the NHS TRT you're lucky as most get fobbed off, run the Sust for 6 months and see how things go, don't fcuk with stuff in the meantime and assess things then. Getting hormone levels correct is totally individual, it's hard, takes patience and time to get right.
     
    Remember "patience and time"" good luck 👍


    Haha true but as always I’m very very very greatful for all the help! Even though sus will be every 3 weeks? I’ve been on 125mg a week now for 3 and half weeks and sometimes when I wake up I want to get up and take life on lol I feel abit happier and I’m getting morning wood now aswel somtikes I just don’t want to put my self ima. State where I leave the private dr and then nhs just put me on small trt to where my levels are normally but low .... fak lol
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    Re: NHS HAS ACCEPED ME FOR TRT HELP 2019/02/13 16:32:26 (permalink)
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    250mg of sust E3W is absolute dire. The NHS and endos in general are useless when it comes to treating men with low T. If you have low SHBG you're gonna be well and truly f*cked on that protocol. I'm sure you'll feel like dogsh1t in the last week no matter what, though as sl says, don't look a gift horse in the mouth. See if you can self inject, pre fill 3 syringes and go 80mg a week. I'd carry on with the HCG privately if you can as that will bump up your T levels further if 80mg is too low for you.

     
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    Re: NHS HAS ACCEPED ME FOR TRT HELP 2019/02/13 16:42:43 (permalink)
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    It's never a short story with you mate 😉...as the saying goes 'Don't look a gift horse in the mouth' take the NHS TRT you're lucky as most get fobbed off, run the Sust for 6 months and see how things go, don't fcuk with stuff in the meantime and assess things then. Getting hormone levels correct is totally individual, it's hard, takes patience and time to get right.
     
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    Haha true but as always I’m very very very greatful for all the help! Even though sus will be every 3 weeks? I’ve been on 125mg a week now for 3 and half weeks and sometimes when I wake up I want to get up and take life on lol I feel abit happier and I’m getting morning wood now aswel somtikes I just don’t want to put my self ima. State where I leave the private dr and then nhs just put me on small trt to where my levels are normally but low .... fak lol



    Buddy you'll only find out if you try (no long term harm in that) if it don't work for you it don't work for you and you can try a different approach...there is no set prescription to sort hormones just a number things to try, too much Test can be as big a problem as too little. As i've said it's a personal learning curve no GP or member on MT can do for you. Patients, trial and error my friend is the only way no magic wand when it comes to this joojoo.

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    Re: NHS HAS ACCEPED ME FOR TRT HELP 2019/02/13 16:46:47 (permalink)
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    250mg of sust E3W is absolute dire. The NHS and endos in general are useless when it comes to treating men with low T. If you have low SHBG you're gonna be well and truly f*cked on that protocol. I'm sure you'll feel like dogsh1t in the last week no matter what, though as sl says, don't look a gift horse in the mouth. See if you can self inject, pre fill 3 syringes and go 80mg a week. I'd carry on with the HCG privately if you can as that will bump up your T levels further if 80mg is too low for you.


    Well he did say he don’t know why dr savage gave me hcg because it not been proving and his dosing me out of license But I think 125mg a week is still kinda low I was shocked when he said 250mg 3 weeks .... it’s I know it will be free but like that sucks I think maybe I will ask my gp seen as both nhs and private have acctped me for being low testostrone... will they be inclined to do my blood test for free as my private dr has sent them a letter asking this also .. if so I think il stay private because it will be quit cheap if the blood test are free
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    Re: NHS HAS ACCEPED ME FOR TRT HELP 2019/02/13 16:47:42 (permalink)
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    Re: NHS HAS ACCEPED ME FOR TRT HELP 2019/02/13 16:47:47 (permalink)
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    It's never a short story with you mate 😉...as the saying goes 'Don't look a gift horse in the mouth' take the NHS TRT you're lucky as most get fobbed off, run the Sust for 6 months and see how things go, don't fcuk with stuff in the meantime and assess things then. Getting hormone levels correct is totally individual, it's hard, takes patience and time to get right.

    Remember "patience and time"" good luck 👍


    Haha true but as always I’m very very very greatful for all the help! Even though sus will be every 3 weeks? I’ve been on 125mg a week now for 3 and half weeks and sometimes when I wake up I want to get up and take life on lol I feel abit happier and I’m getting morning wood now aswel somtikes I just don’t want to put my self ima. State where I leave the private dr and then nhs just put me on small trt to where my levels are normally but low .... fak lol



    Buddy you'll only find out if you try (no long term harm in that) if it don't work for you it don't work for you and you can try a different approach...there is no set prescription to sort hormones just a number things to try, too much Test can be as big a problem as too little. As i've said it's a personal learning curve no GP or member on MT can do for you. Patients, trial and error my friend is the only way no magic wand when it comes to this joojoo.



    Yea true
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    Re: NHS HAS ACCEPED ME FOR TRT HELP 2019/02/13 17:10:10 (permalink)
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    125mg per week of test isn't low. That amount will put most men in the upper range limit of T levels. Blokes get greedy though and want more and end up not on TRT but on a yearly cycle.

     
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    Re: NHS HAS ACCEPED ME FOR TRT HELP 2019/02/13 17:19:44 (permalink)
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    125mg per week of test isn't low. That amount will put most men in the upper range limit of T levels. Blokes get greedy though and want more and end up not on TRT but on a yearly cycle.


    Oh I thought it would put me around 400 to 500ngl of test witch is around 17nmol ? Seen as I’m on test I think I’d like to be in the 20s mid 20s would be good.... I know that my body is always anabliloc now right? So that’s a advanced from someone who is natty ?

    I wish I had normal test man it sucks .... nhs would be great because it’s free but I’m just abit worried now because of the 3 week injections my SHGB was at 22nmol btw
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    Re: NHS HAS ACCEPED ME FOR TRT HELP 2019/02/13 18:19:21 (permalink)
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    You have low SHBG and SHBG is very important in TRT as it dictates frequency of injections. Low SHBG indicates your body does not hold on to your testosterone and you end up metabolizing it too fast. As such, you should really be injecting at least twice weekly for more stable test levels. 250mg every 3 weeks is a very bad protocol for a low SHBG guy. 

     
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    You have low SHBG and SHBG is very important in TRT as it dictates frequency of injections. Low SHBG indicates your body does not hold on to your testosterone and you end up metabolizing it too fast. As such, you should really be injecting at least twice weekly for more stable test levels. 250mg every 3 weeks is a very bad protocol for a low SHBG guy. 


    Dam man so you think I should just stay with private ? If I can get my gp on board of the blood test o thing the cost is very reasonable private just the blood test hmm I have few days to decide so ... just annoying why do they do 3 week injections surly they must know it’s not great lol
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    Re: NHS HAS ACCEPED ME FOR TRT HELP 2019/02/13 18:48:05 (permalink)
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    He said because I went private it’s abit of a issue but his happy to treat me with sus but not in the same dosage I can only have sus 250mg every 3 weeks ... I know my self that’s not good at all! But it’s free on nhs plus blood test and stuff so I’m stuck on what to do..... any thoughts ?


    250mg every 3 weeks is the recommended therapeutic dose.  Your doctor is attempting to regulate your testosterone to within normal levels.  He is not proscribing you a course of gear on the NHS.    
     
    Take the medical advice and dose and get your health sorted. 
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    Re: NHS HAS ACCEPED ME FOR TRT HELP 2019/02/13 19:05:29 (permalink)
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    He said because I went private it’s abit of a issue but his happy to treat me with sus but not in the same dosage I can only have sus 250mg every 3 weeks ... I know my self that’s not good at all! But it’s free on nhs plus blood test and stuff so I’m stuck on what to do..... any thoughts ?


    250mg every 3 weeks is the recommended therapeutic dose.  Your doctor is attempting to regulate your testosterone to within normal levels.  He is not proscribing you a course of gear on the NHS.    
     
    Take the medical advice and dose and get your health sorted. 


    Well yea and no because he said to me if my levels come back in normal range but low end like 8nmol he said he will be happy with that
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    Re: NHS HAS ACCEPED ME FOR TRT HELP 2019/02/13 19:16:49 (permalink)
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    I'm prescribed 250mg once every 4 weeks. NHS are ****e with TRT protocols
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    Re: NHS HAS ACCEPED ME FOR TRT HELP 2019/02/13 19:20:17 (permalink)
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    As airborne said 125mg per week isn't low at all. That's probably the highest most people on TRT should have to go to.
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    Re: NHS HAS ACCEPED ME FOR TRT HELP 2019/02/13 19:23:25 (permalink)
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    As airborne said 125mg per week isn't low at all. That's probably the highest most people on TRT should have to go to.


    I didn’t mean it was low I just thought it was the start point of private trt that may go to 150mg .... but yea it’s way better the 250 every month! That’s crazy!

    So you you guys my private dr write a letter to gp asking if they would do my bloods and if they do I think it would be beest to stay private you think? With nhs doing my bloods it wouldn’t be to much monthly....

    Or you think I should just email my private dr and tell them nhs are taken over? So torn man I don’t want to mess it up either way
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    Re: NHS HAS ACCEPED ME FOR TRT HELP 2019/02/13 19:44:30 (permalink)
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    I'm prescribed 250mg once every 4 weeks. NHS are ****e with TRT protocols


    What’s your levels of test on 250 a month if you don’t mind me asking?
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    Down to 12nmol/l just before my next injection. Start feeling really **** from week 3 onwards
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