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2007/06/12 16:28:02 (permalink)

Need some help with this one....

I have never had a problem with "losing weight" really because I have always tried to gain it. I mean, of course I could lose a little off my love handles but other than that I know nothing about losing weight.....and that's why I am posting this thread.

Recently a co-worker of mine asked if he could start going ot the gym with me. I said it wasn't a problem. He then started stressing to me how important it is for him to lose some weight before he goes home to see his family on vacation.

He is 44 years old, 5 foot 8 inches and weighs almost 230lbs. He has a BIIIG ol belly on him. He is actually pretty strong for his age and life style. But this is something that I know lifting weights will not solve on it's own. To be honest, his stomach is really the only thing that needs a LOT of work. He seems to be in pretty good shape other than that.

He runs 3 days a week outside for about 30 minutes. We go to the gym 5 days a week for weight training. Monday - Chest, Tuesday - Back, Wednesday - Legs, Thursday - Shoulders, Friday - Bi's/Tri's, Saturday/Sunday - Off.

My question is, what do I need to do for his diet. He has pretty much put his life style into my hands. He thinks just because I go to the gym and I have some size that I am some sort of Nutrionist or something....lol. I can only give him the advice that I have learned from you guys really. But I have never really inquired about losing weight or a diet to help lose weight. So I am hoping to get some input.

Also, he insisted on buying a whey protein powder to use once or twice a day. He says he is giving me full control over his diet but he is hard headed and sometimes goes off and does things on his own.....lol.

Thanks in advance guys.
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    RE: Need some help with this one.... 2007/06/12 16:29:41 (permalink)
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    RE: Need some help with this one.... 2007/06/12 20:27:27 (permalink)
    Thanks bro. I read it and it helped a little. I will sit him down and discuss his diet for the long term and what he needs to change.

    And thanks for the input in the thread Toxic.
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    RE: Need some help with this one.... 2007/06/14 17:12:58 (permalink)
    Ok, he has agreed that his first goal will be to cut his portions down. I notice he eats a lot during meals (practically licking his plate...lol). But he told me yesterday "I need to go to the PX and pick up another jug of protein". I said "didn't you just buy one last week?". He says, "Yeah, but I drank it all." Now I KNOW he went through it too fast. It was just a small jug of NitroTech, but that usually lasts me at least 2 weeks. He went through it in 6 days. If he was just another guy that was in pretty good shape, I wouldn't say anything.....but my question is, are whey protein shakes beneficial at all to somebody in his situation? He says that he is replacing a meal with a shake, but I would say he would need more of a Meal Replacement shake rather than just a whey shake right?

    Any info anybody can offer will be great.

    Again, his stats are....

    44 yrs old
    5'8"
    225lbs
    No idea on BF% but his gut is huge....

    He runs about 2 miles 3 times a week and goes to the gym with me for weight training Monday - Friday.
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    RE: Need some help with this one.... 2007/06/14 19:34:10 (permalink)
    Is he just replacing meals with whey for the sake of it, or is it down to convenience? ? ?
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    RE: Need some help with this one.... 2007/06/14 20:11:35 (permalink)
    Well we are both in Iraq and pretty much have a chow hall available to us 24/7. So his mentality behind replacing the meal with a shake is, he will not run the risk of over eating and it is probably more healthy than the things he will be putting on his plate. But he is the type of guy that every hour I hear him say "Man!! I'm hungry!!!". He says it even after eating a huge meal. He is doing really good by going to the gym with me and sticking with it, but he lacks self control on his diet. And I am at a loss on what to suggest.
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    RE: Need some help with this one.... 2007/06/15 13:10:53 (permalink)
    i have just finished my exams and i am wondering what would be a good begginner diet?

    could some one give a list of meals please??

    Thanks Jamie
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    RE: Need some help with this one.... 2007/06/15 15:10:55 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Jamie55

    i have just finished my exams and i am wondering what would be a good begginner diet?

    could some one give a list of meals please??

    Thanks Jamie

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    RE: Need some help with this one.... 2007/06/15 15:43:23 (permalink)
    Thanks a lot
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    RE: Need some help with this one.... 2007/06/15 17:13:34 (permalink)
    Lacks self control and will power? Give up is my best advice.

    Lets fat people, be fat - Amen
    How long does he have to drop the weight?
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    RE: Need some help with this one.... 2007/06/15 19:41:41 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: richsINS

    Lacks self control and will power? Give up is my best advice.

    Lets fat people, be fat - Amen
    How long does he have to drop the weight?

    Noooo, I can't give up on him bro. I will try to help him as long as he is willing to put forth the effort. I am just trying to get all my ducks in a row before I start preaching to him.

    As far as a time frame for him losing the weight, there really isn't a set time. He is going to see his wife and son in a couple of months and would like to be a little more trim, but nothing drastic. I think he is just trying to lose his gut no matter how long it takes. And I don't know if I would even call it a gut.....it's more of a STOMACH.....lol.
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    RE: Need some help with this one.... 2007/06/16 13:32:28 (permalink)
    I don't seem to be getting many responses to my questions. I guess the short and sweet of this post is, is it okay for a person try to LOSE weight (not cut) to drink whey protein shakes? I know it's probably a very vague question but I am looking for somebody that has had to lose weight before and whether or not they drank shakes.

    Thanks
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    RE: Need some help with this one.... 2007/06/16 13:33:53 (permalink)
    whey is not the magic bean for losing weight caloric deficit is. Personally is tell you friend to save his money if you have a mess hall and just eat more veg, less junk and up his activity levels
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    RE: Need some help with this one.... 2007/06/16 13:51:08 (permalink)
    Sounds good bro. That's basically all I was looking for is somebody to agree with me Thank you!
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    RE: Need some help with this one.... 2007/06/16 13:57:56 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: theiopener

    whey is not the magic bean for losing weight caloric deficit is. Personally is tell you friend to save his money if you have a mess hall and just eat more veg, less junk and up his activity levels


    Ditto that...

    Good to see you Beastinem
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    RE: Need some help with this one.... 2007/06/16 14:36:23 (permalink)
    Hey Mick

    I have been pretty busy over here for the past month or two. Looking forward to finally starting my next cycle at the end of next month though

    Back to the topic, I love having a mess hall that is available to us but it is kind of hard to know exactly what all you are eating considering it is all prepared for you. There is no telling how much butter, how much oil, grease, etc. they are cooking with back there. I try to stick with veggies and chicken breast. Another bad thing is, they hardly have any beef.....ever
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