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2005/08/02 14:24:22 (permalink)
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Need to correct shoulder workout

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Very simply, the size of my chest is out of proportion with the rest of my body. A number of knowledgeable people have said that I need to increase the size of my shoulders and thicken my back to balance things out and that I'm probably engaging my chest when I train shoulders. (While being logical this still sounds odd.)

Does anyone have any recommendations as to the best way to engage the anterior delts and disengage my pecs for an exercise like shoulder press. Surely it's not possible to use chest for lateral raises?

Any advice would be great!
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    tokar
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    RE: Need to correct shoulder workout 2005/08/02 14:32:32 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Kaizen

    Hi

    Very simply, the size of my chest is out of proportion with the rest of my body. A number of knowledgeable people have said that I need to increase the size of my shoulders and thicken my back to balance things out and that I'm probably engaging my chest when I train shoulders. (While being logical this still sounds odd.)

    Does anyone have any recommendations as to the best way to engage the anterior delts and disengage my pecs for an exercise like shoulder press. Surely it's not possible to use chest for lateral raises?

    Any advice would be great!


    I don't think it's logical at all, I think it's bull****. Unless you're doing some major leaning back, in the style of the old Soviet Olympic pressers, then there's no way you can be getting your pecs into overhead pressing. What work do you do for your shoulders at the moment?
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    RE: Need to correct shoulder workout 2005/08/02 14:36:20 (permalink)
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    Hi Tokar

    Thanks for the quick response and the counter-point. My shoulder workout is as follows:

    - Standing shoulder press 4 x 8
    - Side lateral raises 3 x 10
    - Shrugs 4 x 8

    Cheers
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    RE: Need to correct shoulder workout 2005/08/02 14:38:37 (permalink)
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    cant see where the chest would be used in any of those exercises

    do you have a back routine as well?

    DCR
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    RE: Need to correct shoulder workout 2005/08/02 14:41:34 (permalink)
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    Hi

    Yup, my back routine is as follows:

    - Weighted chins 4 x 8
    - Deadlifts 5 x 5
    - Seated rows 4 x 8

    Cheers
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    RE: Need to correct shoulder workout 2005/08/02 14:53:41 (permalink)
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    i know im gonna get slated for this....
    i dont tend to do DL's with back, i do em with legs. Now im not saying this is gospel, but if you shifted them, you could fit in some SLDL's to your back routine....


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    RE: Need to correct shoulder workout 2005/08/02 17:15:31 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: DCR

    i know im gonna get slated for this....
    i dont tend to do DL's with back, i do em with legs. Now im not saying this is gospel, but if you shifted them, you could fit in some SLDL's to your back routine....

    DCR


    Or else you could keep deadlifts- primarily a back exercise- on back day and do stiff-legged deadlifts- primarily a hamstring exercise- on leg day!

    Kaizen, I don't think there's anything much wrong with your shoulder work, except that I don't think lateral raises (not "side lateral raises") are much use. What I'd suggest would be to drop the lateral raises and perhaps do a bit more pressing- and perhaps do shoulder work first in a workout if you don't already.
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    RE: Need to correct shoulder workout 2005/08/02 18:47:45 (permalink)
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    Its seems you are just predispositioned to having those proportions, the routine looks ok, where is your chest routine in relation to your shoulder routine? on the same day? 2 days appart?
    I have the oposite problem, my shoulders overshadow everything else and i only train them with a few sets of DB BB press a week!
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    RE: Need to correct shoulder workout 2005/08/02 22:43:03 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: QUARANTINE

    Its seems you are just predispositioned to having those proportions, the routine looks ok, where is your chest routine in relation to your shoulder routine? on the same day? 2 days appart?
    I have the oposite problem, my shoulders overshadow everything else and i only train them with a few sets of DB BB press a week!




    Usually, chest and shoulders are two days appart. It's a bit different over the next three weeks as I'm trying to get as lean as possible. But generally these two body parts aren't worked on the same day.
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    RE: Need to correct shoulder workout 2005/08/02 22:55:09 (permalink)
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    sounds ok, just keep to a routine that covers all bases and motor on through, try and look on the posetive side you have good chest development, a lot of guys dont.
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    RE: Need to correct shoulder workout 2005/08/03 13:40:56 (permalink)
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    Why not take it easy on the chest for a while to allow the shoulders to catch up?

    I had to stop all shoulder exercises for ages due to injury. I had to focus on my back, biceps etc. They grew like nobody's business.
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    RE: Need to correct shoulder workout 2005/08/03 16:37:15 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Jack The Lad

    Why not take it easy on the chest for a while to allow the shoulders to catch up?

    I had to stop all shoulder exercises for ages due to injury. I had to focus on my back, biceps etc. They grew like nobody's business.


    Yup, this is an excellent point. Difficult to do purely 'cos I like training chest but very true.

    I'll do this in my next training cycle after the hols.

    Thanks
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