YB
BannerBanner

New Cutting Diet

Page: 12 > Showing page 1 of 2
Author
Nature Boy
Olympian Member
  • Total Posts : 892
  • Reward points: 2400
  • Joined: 2005/05/05 09:35:46
  • Location: Herts
  • Status: offline
2005/08/02 09:48:59 (permalink)
0

New Cutting Diet

I have been cutting for the lasr six weeks and have been having good results but just looking to get ride of that last bit im currently at 10% so I have tweeked by diet a bit.

6:30 Whey In water
7:00 Cup of oats 100ml skimmed milk, 220ml water, chopped up bannana, tsp flax oil or 3 egg whites can of mackerel in olive oil maybe slice wholemeal toast, cup of green tea.
10:00 100g chicken breast, one apple
13:00 160g of tuna or mackeral in olive oil, 100g kidney beans, cucumber and tomatos and muller light
3:30 Bannana, muller light, green tea
5pm Workout Mon-Wed Interval training, Tues-Thursday Weights
6:10 Whey & Water
6:45-7pm Chicken, Turkey Steaks or Fish dish, 100g kidney beans, veg, two pieces of fruit
10pm Whey in water with 1sp flax oil mixed in

Differs at weekend Normally have oats for breakfastat 7am then hour later Gym Sat- Back, Tris then Interval training, Sunday chest-biceps-Shoulders no cardio, after woking out whey in water then 3 egg whites, can of mackerel or sardines in olive oil,

I have taken out fresh pasta from my diet even though its lower cals and carbs it has been hard, but looking to get carbs from fruits and veg as reccomended by people on this board. Supps san tight fat burner taking with breakfast and lunch, 30mins before woking out omega thunder creatine
#1

31 Replies Related Threads

    Wyllis
    Olympian Member
    • Total Posts : 689
    • Reward points: 6472
    • Joined: 2003/02/26 12:45:37
    • Location: Bridgend, South Wales, UK
    • Status: offline
    RE: New Cutting Diet 2005/08/02 13:49:07 (permalink)
    0
    Meal 1: Change from just whey. Have something more substantial - weetabix - porridge. Still have the whey.
    Meal 2: 100g chicken breast (get rid of apple)
    Meal 3: Tuna, kidney beans, rice, cucumber, tomatoe. (get rid of yogurt)
    Meal 4 - before train - same as meal 1.
    Meal 5 - after training: whey in water, energy drink - 30g carbs.
    Meal 6 - get rid of fruit otherwise ok.
    Meal 7: Shouldnt be whey. Should be a slower digesting protien.

    My thoughts...............

    "Forced reps are best done by yourself": Franco Columbo

    "If you said eating **** would give me muscles, I would eat it!"; Arnold Schwartzennegger
    #2
    Nature Boy
    Olympian Member
    • Total Posts : 892
    • Reward points: 2400
    • Joined: 2005/05/05 09:35:46
    • Location: Herts
    • Status: offline
    RE: New Cutting Diet 2005/08/02 14:21:37 (permalink)
    0
    630 whey in water on waking then breakfast is at 7am, why ditch the fruit and why use energy drink after workout if im cutting, as for meal 7 the flax oil slows down the potein down
    #3
    Wyllis
    Olympian Member
    • Total Posts : 689
    • Reward points: 6472
    • Joined: 2003/02/26 12:45:37
    • Location: Bridgend, South Wales, UK
    • Status: offline
    RE: New Cutting Diet 2005/08/02 14:35:43 (permalink)
    0
    Yeah I would ditch the pre breakfast whey. Whats the point in it??? Just have your breakfast with carbs. Add your flax oil to that meal. Will boost your metabolism more.

    Ditch the fruit because it is basically fructose and will refill glycogen stores.

    30g recovery drink after training wont effect your cutting regeime as long as you mix it with your whey protein. The protein will slow the digestion of it down. Doing it this way will also help you recover from the workout quicker.

    "Forced reps are best done by yourself": Franco Columbo

    "If you said eating **** would give me muscles, I would eat it!"; Arnold Schwartzennegger
    #4
    ToxicToffee
    Pro-Member
    • Total Posts : 43658
    • Reward points: 2778
    • Joined: 2004/10/28 09:38:01
    • Status: offline
    RE: New Cutting Diet 2005/08/02 14:40:10 (permalink)
    0
    ^^^^

    dont agree
    #5
    Nature Boy
    Olympian Member
    • Total Posts : 892
    • Reward points: 2400
    • Joined: 2005/05/05 09:35:46
    • Location: Herts
    • Status: offline
    RE: New Cutting Diet 2005/08/02 14:43:55 (permalink)
    0
    Everyone has whey in water upon waking, your body has had no protein while your asleep it gets to your muscles straight away. As for the fruit fructose thing just a myth fruit is a natural carb knowone will get fat eating fruit, what do you mean by recovery drink thought it was always best to have whey in water after working out then a meal 40mins later
    #6
    Nature Boy
    Olympian Member
    • Total Posts : 892
    • Reward points: 2400
    • Joined: 2005/05/05 09:35:46
    • Location: Herts
    • Status: offline
    RE: New Cutting Diet 2005/08/03 10:00:14 (permalink)
    0
    Does anyone else agree that cutting fruit out during cutting is just rubbish,
    #7
    ToxicToffee
    Pro-Member
    • Total Posts : 43658
    • Reward points: 2778
    • Joined: 2004/10/28 09:38:01
    • Status: offline
    RE: New Cutting Diet 2005/08/03 10:11:46 (permalink)
    0
    cutting fruit IMO is BS, pre comp, possibly, for joe public? never

    PWO IMO leave it out but any other time i would go for it

    the sugars IMO are not an issue as they simply as stacked with such a good micronutirent profile they are worth comnsuming?

    most High GI fruits are low GL nyway which again is not an issue IMO and they are genberally consumed with other foods anyway

    no fruit is very much an american theory and not one i buy for the average gym trainer or person looking to lose weight
    #8
    massFactor
    New Member
    • Total Posts : 67
    • Reward points: 5897
    • Joined: 2005/01/08 02:11:13
    • Status: offline
    RE: New Cutting Diet 2005/08/03 10:24:09 (permalink)
    0
    Does anyone else agree that cutting fruit out during cutting is just rubbish,


    Yes.

    MF
    #9
    Nature Boy
    Olympian Member
    • Total Posts : 892
    • Reward points: 2400
    • Joined: 2005/05/05 09:35:46
    • Location: Herts
    • Status: offline
    RE: New Cutting Diet 2005/08/03 10:32:00 (permalink)
    0
    Yeah it is an american thing, think he has been reading bodybuilding.com, I love fruit and not gonna stop eating its great whilst cutting as it keeps me fuller for longer
    #10
    Wyllis
    Olympian Member
    • Total Posts : 689
    • Reward points: 6472
    • Joined: 2003/02/26 12:45:37
    • Location: Bridgend, South Wales, UK
    • Status: offline
    RE: New Cutting Diet 2005/08/03 11:04:36 (permalink)
    0
    I didnt get this from visting bodybuilding.com. I could say the same about everyone on here reading from the same sheet. In my opinion doing these things will help you lose the fat quicker.

    I work very closely with one of the best nutritionists in the country IMO and these are views that both of us have regarding fruit, post workout nutrition etc.

    Who cares if cutting the fruit out will make you a little flatter??? Once the fat is gone and you start eating normal again then you can fill out a bit more. If you are worried about getting flat IMO have a clean high carb day every so often.

    "Forced reps are best done by yourself": Franco Columbo

    "If you said eating **** would give me muscles, I would eat it!"; Arnold Schwartzennegger
    #11
    Wyllis
    Olympian Member
    • Total Posts : 689
    • Reward points: 6472
    • Joined: 2003/02/26 12:45:37
    • Location: Bridgend, South Wales, UK
    • Status: offline
    RE: New Cutting Diet 2005/08/03 11:07:38 (permalink)
    0
    Oh I also forgot. IMO having Whey in water with no carbs first thing in the morning is also a bad idea. Your body has been starving for 8 hrs so when you ingest the whey first thing your body is more likely to turn to it to replenish glycogen stores which when cutting is not the best thing.

    If you must have just protein first thing in the morning as you rise, you are better off going with a slower digesting protein....................

    "Forced reps are best done by yourself": Franco Columbo

    "If you said eating **** would give me muscles, I would eat it!"; Arnold Schwartzennegger
    #12
    Nature Boy
    Olympian Member
    • Total Posts : 892
    • Reward points: 2400
    • Joined: 2005/05/05 09:35:46
    • Location: Herts
    • Status: offline
    RE: New Cutting Diet 2005/08/03 11:27:26 (permalink)
    0
    Not worried about getting fat im at 10% body fat looking to get to get down maybe to 8% bodyfat before holiday, not having fruit pwo changed it to a protein source maybe 100g chicken, but as for all my meals not gonna ditch the fruit as there is nothing at all wrong with fruit. You need fast acting protein am and as for pm flax oil slows it down
    #13
    Wyllis
    Olympian Member
    • Total Posts : 689
    • Reward points: 6472
    • Joined: 2003/02/26 12:45:37
    • Location: Bridgend, South Wales, UK
    • Status: offline
    RE: New Cutting Diet 2005/08/03 12:34:27 (permalink)
    0
    Didnt say that you were worried about getting FAT!! Flat is what I said mate. If you are worried about that then have a clean high carb day every so often. This would also be good to boost your metabolism.

    If you dont want to ditch the fruit then dont that is your choice!! Its not BS though like Toxic said. If there wasnt a reason for ditching it on a cutting diet then why would you do it on a competition diet when the aim is to get as lean as possible whilst still keeping your muscle????

    The fructose in fruit is not like other carbs like you said. It is more likely to fill glycogen stores than other forms of carbs. IMO when Im cutting which incindentaly I am now I try to avoid eating anything that will refill my glycogen stores and slow down the fat burning process.

    As for the protein first thing in the morning. Like I already said you have been starving for 8hrs whilst you sleep so having just protein first thing means that your body is more likely to turn that into glycogen to use for energy instead of your fat reserves thats not hard to understand. If you were bulking then it would be a good idea to use whey protein first thing but not for cutting. If you really want to do it though just use a slower digesting protein like - pure protein by UCN.....

    Just so that you know that I know what Im talking about, I am currently 6.5%bf and I have come down from 13.5%

    "Forced reps are best done by yourself": Franco Columbo

    "If you said eating **** would give me muscles, I would eat it!"; Arnold Schwartzennegger
    #14
    Nature Boy
    Olympian Member
    • Total Posts : 892
    • Reward points: 2400
    • Joined: 2005/05/05 09:35:46
    • Location: Herts
    • Status: offline
    RE: New Cutting Diet 2005/08/03 12:40:01 (permalink)
    0
    cool I will keep the advice in mind
    #15
    pulsar
    Olympian Member
    • Total Posts : 711
    • Reward points: 9926
    • Joined: 2005/06/11 11:07:32
    • Status: offline
    RE: New Cutting Diet 2005/08/03 13:06:06 (permalink)
    0
    Call me thick but why avoid fruit PWO ? i would have thought you want to refuel your Glycogen then wouldn't you ? I read somwhere recently ( think is was M & F ) that fruit is fine whilst cutting esp when eaten first thing and pre and post workout ...

    *** GO INTENSE OR GO HOME !!! ***
    #16
    Nature Boy
    Olympian Member
    • Total Posts : 892
    • Reward points: 2400
    • Joined: 2005/05/05 09:35:46
    • Location: Herts
    • Status: offline
    RE: New Cutting Diet 2005/08/03 13:21:05 (permalink)
    0
    Thats what I thought about fruit, I have just dropped starchy carbs even though I have got to a good bodyfat with them in there for my final push I would drop them and get carbs from natural sources ie veg and fruit and the odd muller light here and there
    #17
    Wyllis
    Olympian Member
    • Total Posts : 689
    • Reward points: 6472
    • Joined: 2003/02/26 12:45:37
    • Location: Bridgend, South Wales, UK
    • Status: offline
    RE: New Cutting Diet 2005/08/03 13:49:55 (permalink)
    0
    I am really sorry lol.

    I missed the post workout fruit and focused on the fruit at other times. Post workout fruit should be fine ha ha. I wouldnt have two peices though. One should be enough. You should aim for around 30g of carbs from fast acting sources.

    One word for me...............PLANK!! ha ha

    My views on the morning whey remains the same lol

    "Forced reps are best done by yourself": Franco Columbo

    "If you said eating **** would give me muscles, I would eat it!"; Arnold Schwartzennegger
    #18
    Nature Boy
    Olympian Member
    • Total Posts : 892
    • Reward points: 2400
    • Joined: 2005/05/05 09:35:46
    • Location: Herts
    • Status: offline
    RE: New Cutting Diet 2005/08/03 13:53:33 (permalink)
    0
    really you have no fruit at all on a cut at all, dont know how you do it I love my fruit eat 6-7 pieces a day, I will try and not have any for a week and see how I go giving up pasta has been hard but fruit would be harder, where do you get carb sources from
    #19
    pulsar
    Olympian Member
    • Total Posts : 711
    • Reward points: 9926
    • Joined: 2005/06/11 11:07:32
    • Status: offline
    RE: New Cutting Diet 2005/08/03 13:59:06 (permalink)
    0
    Don't overlook the very powerful Anti oxidant effects of fruit either .. very important on a cut if you don't want to end up being ill .. I read that one apple is actually as good Anti Oxidant wise as 1000g of supplemental vit C due to all the other Phytochemicals in it .. I really don't hold that a little fruit makes you fat .. i think that is Noahs theory .. and things have moved on

    *** GO INTENSE OR GO HOME !!! ***
    #20
    Page: 12 > Showing page 1 of 2
    Jump to:
    ©2018 All content is copyright of MuscleTalk.co.uk and its use elsewhere is prohibited.
    (posting guidelines | privacy | advertise | earnings disclaimer | contact us | supported by)
    © 2018 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.5