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2011/03/18 17:00:04 (permalink)

New Guy needs help!!

Hello Guys,
 
My name is Dale, im 27 and from UK.
 
I have been training for well over 2 years, I am small and lean (5'9 weighing 138 pounds).
 
I have plenty of gym budies who have taken steriods before but i never have despite being interested in using them. I have been researching for well over 6 months trying to find out what best suits my needs and wants but I am getting conflicting advice!
 
I simply wish to add a little lean muscle and size, I dont want to go to big like my friends have, it is important to me that I stay lean.
 
With that in mind I had settled on a 6-8 week course of Deca Durobolin injecting 200 mg per week for that period. Will this be sufficient? My friends say I should be taking test along with it but I dont know if it will gain me the lean muscle I require with as little side effects as possible!!
 
Also I am unsure of what I will need to take post cycle.
 
I am planning on upping the intensity level of my workouts for this period of 6-8 weeks, training chest and back on a monday, wed, fri (morning) with my arms and shoulders on monday, wed and fri (evening). On Tues and thurs (morning) I will be going for a 3 mile run with 15 minute intense ab work after. On Tues and Thursday (evening) I will be training my leg muscles and light ab work.
 
I will ofcourse be sticking to a strict diet but I have had that down for as long as I remember anyways!
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated as the internet is full of information but its information overload at the minute!!
 
Thanks in advance
 
Dale 
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    Valley Fitness
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    Re:New Guy needs help!! 2011/03/18 17:10:48 (permalink)
     
    Hi and welcome to MT,here have a read of this link it should help you some what.
    http://articles.muscletalk.co.uk/article-beginners-steroids-faq.aspx
     
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    Re:New Guy needs help!! 2011/03/18 17:18:00 (permalink)
    Thanks for the quick reply!
     
    I have been over the article a fair bit but what I cannot find is if I should take  both test and deca or would deca on its own suffice??
     
    Thanks
     
    Dale
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    Re:New Guy needs help!! 2011/03/18 17:26:14 (permalink)
    200mg of deca is ok, but not really worth it, ur already shutting ur natural test down so u might as well do a decent dosage, try 5-600 test and 400 deca
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    Re:New Guy needs help!! 2011/03/18 18:02:25 (permalink)
    Thanks for the help mate, will go with the test only maybe 400, I dont want massive gains!! Should I be taking anything durin the cycle to prevent side effects or should I just start treatment after the cycle has finished?
     
    Thanks again
     
    Dale
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    Re:New Guy needs help!! 2011/03/18 18:31:14 (permalink)
    No offence to you or the people who have posted above

    But your under 10 stone, you should sort out your diet
    Before even thinking about taking steroids.

    As for test 600 mg and Decca 400mg is f@cking plain stupid
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    Re:New Guy needs help!! 2011/03/18 19:18:31 (permalink)
    i would go with test e x 500mg per week for 12 weeks followed by standrad nolva pct.
    this is a standrad beginners cycle,
    personally i would stay away from deca for a first cycle.
     
    but as above you really need to sort out your diet before going on cycle as its pointless if the food is not right.
     
    you could probably make some great natural gains with diet sorted before going onto steroids.
     
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    Re:New Guy needs help!! 2011/03/18 19:40:17 (permalink)
    I took 500mg test for my first cycle and to be honest with u 1 of my best, no sure bout taking a deca only cycle , especially for ur first, if u want to make lean gains and obviously stay lean then i would not go with deca, lots of water retention,
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    Re:New Guy needs help!! 2011/03/18 20:01:57 (permalink)
    Cheers for the info guys,
     
    I have been up to 11 stone just over a year ago but with my height (should read 5'8) I felt bloated. I had been taking Creatine at the time so maybe that was the problem. 
     
    I have been training flat out lately to lose all my fat before starting a cycle of steriods. Maybe im not ready yet, everytime I think im doing the right thing I get told im not!! A little more reading required for me!
     
    I think I am guilty of underrating, my diet is good (i think) but I know I should be eating more. Ill go have a look at sample diets and see what im doing wrong and keep the steroids on hold for a while.
     
    Thanks for the help guys
     
    Dale
     
     
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    Re:New Guy needs help!! 2011/03/18 20:03:34 (permalink)
    Seems to me you might want to rethink your training schedule, Training your body parts 3 times a week, from my experience will not equate to muscle mass, it'll more than likley lead to overtraining,or may already have done so, hence your reason for being so light and lean.
     Even with the use of steroids, If your pushing the limits needed for muscle growth,your muscles will not recover from a high intensity, heavy workout, which is needed for muscle increase.

    POOR IS THE MAN WHO'S PLEASURE DEPENDS UPON THE PERMISSION OF ANOTHER !!!!!!
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    Re:New Guy needs help!! 2011/03/18 20:05:54 (permalink)
    good sensible approach mate, get your diet posted up in the diet section, there will be plenty on there to help you out.
    do as much research as possible in the meantime and IF you decide to take steroids in the future you at least will be armed with the knowledge.
     
    good luck with your goals mate
     

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    Re:New Guy needs help!! 2011/03/18 21:14:38 (permalink)
    Wow,
     
    I would near need to double my food intake!!! I have been way off with my diet, right things, wrong portions! 
     
    I generally keep lean no matter what I eat but I dont have a massive appetite, dont get me wrong I can eat a **** load but I can also satisfy myself with smaller portions.
     
    Barndoor, think your right with the training shedule, I dont train that hard at the minute but I was going to go for that shedule if I went onto the steriods. 
     
    Going to start this new diet on monday, got a link on this site, just have to adjust it for my weight and Im sorted! Gpoing to have fun eating this much! For a while anyways!! lol
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    Re:New Guy needs help!! 2011/03/18 21:45:44 (permalink)
    i agree with bandoor that training schedule is over the top you need to rest for your body too grow m8, sort your diet out and you will start to grow then think about steroids later. good luck
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    Re:New Guy needs help!! 2011/03/19 08:48:30 (permalink)
    Welcome to the forum and first things first well done as you are researching before you just start putting things in your body. You will not believe how many leave the research side out (me included many years ago and regret it to this day the time, money and effort i wasted).
     
    You are researching the meds and assume you will do same with training and diet too as they are IMHO more important.
     
    Then i would look at a simple 250mg test and 250mg decca cycle for about 8 weeks. I would even look at a small dosage dbol weeks 1-4/5 and then complete with PCT
     
    Welcome again
     
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    Re:New Guy needs help!! 2011/03/19 09:05:44 (permalink)
    Yeah.. Take test, that will get you big in no time. Good for a first cycle is that. Meanwhile, anavar or tbol will give you steady clean gains with no sides.
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