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Newbie need advice: First Sustanon & Winny cycle

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2007/06/13 17:19:43 (permalink)

Newbie need advice: First Sustanon & Winny cycle

Hi there! First want to say that you have awesome board here, I have learned a lot of things, respect for that. I'm planing my first cycle and want to share it with you.Will be glad if you help me to make it better.here are my stats and what I'm going to do:

21yo,working out for 5 years till now
5'97 188lbs ,maybe around 12-15% BF I don't know exactly

I want to gain 20lbs

I'm going to take:

1. Omnadren (Sustanon) 10 weeks -500mg/wk (E2OD x 250mg)
Why Omnadren? I know that the test shoud be the base on every cycle Why not enanthate or cyp? Becouse I'm not sure that I can get them legit,so many fakes around where I live,but I can get omna from all the pharmacies and will be sure 100% it is legit.This is the only concern of using omnadren instead of en or cyp.
Why E2OD and not EOD? I know that it's best to take sustanon EOD,becouse of fast esters but one amp omna is 250 mg,so will be hard to divide the amoun to more than one shoot,and one more thing this is my first cycle so I don`t think to inject myself EOD,too many shots for newbie.Hope E2OD have the same effect as EOD

2.Winnstrol 6 weeks 50mg/day tablets
Why not Dbol? I know Dbol is stacked perfectly with test and is used to kick start the gains but It's too androgenic for me to use 2 androgen steroids.So I decided to make a little compromis with my gains and to go for more safer cycle and to obrain less water retentiona,more clean mass and less liver overflood.
Here is my big problem.When to use the Winny? First 6 or last 6 weeks,or maybe 8 weeks?

3.PCT - Tamoksifen (Nolvadex) 2 weeks after the last omna shoot as 40,40,20,20 for 4 weeks and some HCG for maybe 1 week with 250iue EOD

So my cycle looks like:

1-10 Omnadren- around 500-550mg/week (2x250mg E2OD)
4-10 Winny - 50mg/day tabs

12-13 Nolva 40mg/day
14-15 20mg/day

and maybe hcg 250iu EOD for one week (week 11 or 12)

Thanks!
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    RE: Newbie need advice: First Sustanon & Winny cycle 2007/06/13 17:33:08 (permalink)
    looks like you have researched it and know what your on about

    i would ask what your diet looks like ?

    i would also drop the winny from a 1st cycle, but thats your decision
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    RE: Newbie need advice: First Sustanon & Winny cycle 2007/06/13 17:36:39 (permalink)
    Hi & welcome to MT

    Cycle looks fine - although personally I agree with Clattered: I'd leave out the winny for a first cycle. 250mg x 2 shots per week of the Omnadren is absolutely fine.

    Move PCT back a week (3 weeks after last Omna jab)
    post edited by erekose - 2007/06/13 17:37:28
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    RE: Newbie need advice: First Sustanon & Winny cycle 2007/06/13 17:53:23 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: cLaTTeReD

    looks like you have researched it and know what your on about

    i would ask what your diet looks like ?

    i would also drop the winny from a 1st cycle, but thats your decision



    I'm going to eat 300gr protein per day and 500-550 carbs.Only clean foods and complex carbs,simple carbs - 20gr on the morning and 70gr after work out

    So last 2 years my diet looks like:

    1.120grams oats (before cooking)
    30gr whey
    5 egg whites
    1 banana

    2.120gr oats 200gr chiken breast

    3.120gr oats 200gr tuna

    4.Pre worout - 30gr whey

    5.Post workout 40 whey 2 bananas 30gr glucose

    6. 120gr oats 200gr chiken breasts

    7.120gr oats 200gr tuna

    8.Milk-egg protein 40gr
    post edited by getbigboy - 2007/06/13 17:54:04
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    RE: Newbie need advice: First Sustanon & Winny cycle 2007/06/13 17:56:43 (permalink)
    there are no EFA's or Veg in that diet at all

    i would post it in the diet section and get it sorted mate

    apart from that it looks ok
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