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2004/03/21 11:00:14 (permalink)
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Newbie routin help, home training!

Hey all, im new to the forums! :) Im sure you get loads of ppl like me posting this sort of thing tho so I apologise in advance! [8)]

I've been lighty training for a while now, but am looking to bulk up and get serious! I've got limited resourses at the moment tho. I've got ONE dumbell with ~13kg on it and a bar with ~33kg. At the moment my routine consists of:

Concentrated curl x 6 Dumbell
Curl x 6 Dumbell
Hammer Curls x 6 Dumbell
Front raises x 6 Dumbell
Upright rows x 6 Bar
Arnold presses x 6 Dumbell
Pressups x 12
Dead lifts x 6 Bar
One are dumbell rows x 6 Dumbell

Do this routine 3 times over, so work through each exercise then start at the beginning again. Is this the best way to do it? Going to start riding my bike... when i get it up and running. I try and do the above routin roughly every other day. Sometimes I just dont seem to have the energy though, I feel like stopping after only one set... I try and have something carb based before I work out and some milk / protein after.

I try to have a fairly good diet, was thinking about starting to take these "shakes". Although Im not sure where to start.

Any recommedations / help would be great!

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    T-Bone123
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    RE: Newbie routin help, home training! 2004/03/21 11:11:49 (permalink)
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    Welcome to MT Ethos! - No offence but thats a piss poor routine!

    Read the sticky at the top of this forum - "Need a routine - read this" this will give you some ideas as to what a sound routine looks like.

    Your routine needs to be based around compound exercises (bench press, squats, deadlifts) rather than isolation exercises (hammer curls, concentration curls).

    My advice would be to get a good routine sorted and either buy new kit for your home training - (I can give you links to help you find good kit as I have built up a home gym myself) or to join a local gym. There are advantages and disadvantages to either approach.

    At the moment having one dumbell and a barbell isnt really going to be any good - you will soon progress above the weights you have available!



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    RE: Newbie routin help, home training! 2004/03/21 11:18:05 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the quick reply!

    I'd like to go to the gym, but im not sure im confident enough yet. Been catching up with a guy I havent seen for a while who recently won the uk bench press comp 20-23 which has made me wanna bulk up!

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    RE: Newbie routin help, home training! 2004/03/21 13:53:09 (permalink)
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    Get some more resources... Join a decent gym or buy your own freeweights. If you want to get big and/or strong, you need to get under some big weights. This means freeweights - Not machines or any of that rubbish.

    http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=75977 is my opinion on a routine.
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    RE: Newbie routin help, home training! 2004/03/22 14:19:26 (permalink)
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    I'd get your mate to take you under his wing. Why not join his gym.
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    RE: Newbie routin help, home training! 2004/03/22 18:11:29 (permalink)
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    My plan was to get slighty ripped at home, then when im big / confident enough start going to the gym. My mate gets hassled all the time from people to help him, and hes trained up a couple of my other mates... but its hassle for him and im sure he'd rather concentrate on himself!

    Just out of interest, why IS my routine so bad? Ie what will the outcome be if i continue it?

    Ethos :)
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    RE: Newbie routin help, home training! 2004/03/22 19:43:25 (permalink)
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    I havent ask him yet to train me... :)

    Im not expecting to get massive in a short amount of time either! Just wanted to know whats the best I could do with that equipment. Im thinking about getting another 50kg set of cast iron weights... and possibly a bench for home! Also Looking into getting some milkshakes!

    Sorry, I know this has been ask loads! But i thought mine was a little different given I was looking for a home routine.
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    RE: Newbie routin help, home training! 2004/03/23 16:24:22 (permalink)
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    Well I was thinking of starting to train 4 days a week, wouldnt the shakes help this? Also looked into creatine?
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    RE: Newbie routin help, home training! 2004/03/23 22:30:27 (permalink)
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    There's 2 ways of looking at this I reckon :-

    1) Get some serious training done first with proper equipment before buying whey and creatine and all that. You might find you're not cut out for it and jack it all in.

    2) Invest money in the stuff, and in joining a gym. That way you'll be commited to working out, and find it harder to make excuses not to train, and get on with it.

    I'd go for option 1, prove to yourself that you're in for the long haul, and after a couple of months reward yourself with a tub of quality whey. How's that?
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    RE: Newbie routin help, home training! 2004/03/29 17:00:10 (permalink)
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    Ok, gonna get bench tommorow! Was thinking of this one:

    http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=1751&productId=89731&Trail=C$cip=12298>C$cip=12331>C$cip=12335&categoryId=12335

    Does that look ok? Is it worth paying an extra £10 for butterflys? Also gonna invest in another 50kg weights, which'll mean i'll have 100kg of weights! With The bench and more weights will I be able to get a GOOD routine at home now? Bench / 2 dumbells / bar + 100kg :)

    Thanks for the advice so far guys as well!
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    RE: Newbie routin help, home training! 2004/03/30 19:41:19 (permalink)
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    I'm very concerned about that bench bro, that looks pretty damn flimsy. You need to check the max. weight it'll take (including your body weight) before you buy. That single support bar down the middle just doesn't look enough. [B)]
    Moreover, I'd want one with a squat rack type attachment built on, or how will you squat?
    And as for the butterfly thingys, no mate, don't bother - just dreadful.[xx(]
    Try here possibly...

    www.bodypower.co.uk

    Hope this helps bro.
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    RE: Newbie routin help, home training! 2004/03/30 22:04:47 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the link! :) The benchs are a bit too expensive there for me (bit of a budget)! Hmm, the identical bench but with the butterflys says:

    Maximum user body weight 200kg/32st.

    I'm about ~12.5 stone, so should be ok? Couple of mates have the bench and say its ok....

    Guess there is this one:

    http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=1751&productId=91616&Trail=C$cip=12298>C$cip=12331>C$cip=12335&categoryId=12335

    But thats another £20, worth it?

    Will I be able to get a GOOD routine at home now? Bench / 2 dumbells / bar + 100kg (when I get another 50kg) :)

    Again, thanks for the replys... I know you regular guys probably get newbies asking the same question all the time.


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    RE: Newbie routin help, home training! 2004/03/30 22:46:14 (permalink)
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    Save your money mate, those argos benches are a dubious use of the worlds resources. If money is that tight and you don't want to join a gym, you are going to be very limited on what you can do.

    The swiss ball idea is quite good given this. Focus more on body weight exercises using whatever you can improvise. This will be very good for fitness, just don't expect to get huge.

    A bench is not as important as your'd think. The only major thing you loose is the bench press and you can substute either dips or weighted press ups.

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    RE: Newbie routin help, home training! 2004/03/30 22:54:39 (permalink)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Wheels

    Save your money mate, those argos benches are a dubious use of the worlds resources.

    LOL I agree...
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    If money is that tight and you don't want to join a gym, you are going to be very limited on what you can do.

    Again, agreed.

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    RE: Newbie routin help, home training! 2004/03/31 20:12:26 (permalink)
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    Well ive just put that bench from argos together, its fine to be honest! Just did some benchpress with ~40kg bar... also bought some of these bars:



    Just gotta get a routine that suits me now, ive read the forum sticky but either most of those arent working (just go back to the main forum menu) or dont seem right for me! *has a browse*....
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    RE: Newbie routin help, home training! 2004/03/31 20:25:48 (permalink)
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    Try he my man

    http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=41320



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    RE: Newbie routin help, home training! 2004/03/31 20:33:05 (permalink)
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    Cool, looks good! Thanks for link... :)
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    RE: Newbie routin help, home training! 2004/03/31 21:34:36 (permalink)
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    Ok, done this quickly (yes, i am bored!) :)

    http://www.aoyt95.dsl.pipex.com/workout.html

    Are they are correct? Also are there any alternatives to:

    Weighted Swiss Ball crunches 4x sets 6-8 reps
    hanging leg raises 4x sets 6-8 reps
    overhead cable presses 3 sets 6-8 reps (last set to fail)
    Weighted Dips For Chest - 4 sets 6-8 reps (last set to failure)

    And what are these, (tried finding something to explain with no luck):
    Dumbell side bends 3x sets 6-8 reps
    Lat pulldowns 3 sets 6-8 reps (last set to fail)

    Thanks in advance... anything I should add? :)
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    RE: Newbie routin help, home training! 2004/04/01 10:23:03 (permalink)
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    Now that routine looks familar

    quote:
    Weighted Swiss Ball crunches 4x sets 6-8 reps
    hanging leg raises 4x sets 6-8 reps

    Use weighted sit-ups
    quote:
    overhead cable presses 3 sets 6-8 reps (last set to fail)


    Sorry, don't know this one, it may be a tricep push down. As you don't have any cable equip, just drop it IMO.
    quote:
    Weighted Dips For Chest - 4 sets 6-8 reps (last set to failure)

    Use a weighted push-up. Get a small backpack and add weight as required. You might like to use a pillow or similar to hold the weight in position.
    quote:
    Dumbell side bends 3x sets 6-8 reps


    I'll track down a link for this one.
    quote:
    Lat pulldowns 3 sets 6-8 reps (last set to fail)

    Another cable exercise. Use pull-ups instead. You may not be able to do many, just keep at it.

    Don't add anything, it's fine as it is. Get ya diet sorted and you away.

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