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2009/07/25 19:08:31 (permalink)
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No Presses For Moi

I unfortunately suffer form hooked acromion in both shoulders, this results in tendinitis if i am not completely careful with how I train and even my day to day posture.
Basically after having spent £1500 in Harley street seeing an orthopedic surgeon and 2 physios, I'm OK as long as I avoid exercises that don't involve my hands being above my shoulder. All shoulder presses ect. 
I'm currently doing side and bent laterals and getting the front delts worked with chest work.
Is there any other way you guys can think of of working the delts without raising hands above shoulder level.
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    Re:No Presses For Moi 2009/07/25 19:10:46 (permalink)
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    Upright rows ?

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    Re:No Presses For Moi 2009/07/25 19:14:33 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the input mate, but was told to avoid those too like the plague. Don't look good for the old mass work does it. Saving grace is they are my most naturally physically developed part!, but don't want them to fall behind in the coming months!
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    Re:No Presses For Moi 2009/07/25 19:45:30 (permalink)
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    I had impingement and a strained bicep, and still have some nerve damage in my right shoulder.

    Although im not a body builder, I simply dont do any shoulder presses or raises. I just do lots of rows, some chin ups and DB Press. Plus lots of rotator cuff work.
    You can still add some size. Granted, it wont be as much as someone who overhead presses. But, does it really matter, and will it really be something noticable to others - probably not.

    A mate of mine had a bone spur on his right shoulder for a few years, kept delaying surgery and training (still benching about 180kg raw). Had it this year, and it no longer hurts pressing, but it aches a lot more.
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    Re:No Presses For Moi 2009/07/25 19:51:06 (permalink)
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    Cheer Lewis,
    Don't mention rotator cuff work to me! Did 45 minutes physio every night for 6 months along with posture work. I still do some outward rotation for the supraspinatus but don't need it as much now as long as I stay away from presses.
    I'll stick with raises for now and see how I get on, possibly try some lighter presses in a few months.
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    Re:No Presses For Moi 2009/07/25 20:17:28 (permalink)
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    fun meter

    I had impingement and a strained bicep, and still have some nerve damage in my right shoulder.

    Although im not a body builder, I simply dont do any shoulder presses or raises. I just do lots of rows, some chin ups and DB Press. Plus lots of rotator cuff work.
    You can still add some size. Granted, it wont be as much as someone who overhead presses. But, does it really matter, and will it really be something noticable to others - probably not.

    A mate of mine had a bone spur on his right shoulder for a few years, kept delaying surgery and training (still benching about 180kg raw). Had it this year, and it no longer hurts pressing, but it aches a lot more.


    Hiya mate
     
    Are you still doing lots of foam roller work. Im trying to do a lot at the moment and all the other things in Drew Shoulder article from May 2008.
     
    I had Blankarts Lesion Surgey and capsule shift Nov 2008 and am in my 4th week of being back in the gym.
     
    My day to day live is ruined by my postures constant discomfort and it makes the shoulder stiff still. The Consultant who i saw for last time few weeks ago says he's happy now but im not.
     
    I havnet been told not to do any ohp work, ive been told to do everything
     
    Any more tips on the sort of work i remember you mentioning  so many times fella?
     
    Rodge
    post edited by Rodger - 2009/07/25 20:23:32

    Injured!!

    Squat 170kgx1 105kgx25
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    Re:No Presses For Moi 2009/07/25 22:16:09 (permalink)
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    No problem Sal. The article below might help, any articles by Eric Cressey are worth reading, espcially shoulders.
    http://www.sportsrehabexpert.com/public/96.cfm?sd=2

    Alright Rodge.
    Always a bit of trial and error, some things are fine, others you can feel are problematic.
    I spend a fair bit of time on pre/rehab work. Heres a run through of what I do (if it helps) for upper body;
    - Roller pecs and lats
    - Thoracic extension & rotation
    - Closed Chain Stability (press up position, putting one hand on to other), helps build stability at shoulder
    - Push-up Plus (activate serratus anterior)
    - Wall Slide (activate lower traps)
    - Push-up (warm up elbows and shoulders)

    Then workout. I focus on twice as many rowing movements as pushing. Along with external and internal rotation, high rep bicep/tricep and DB protractions (for serratus anterior).
    And finish with a few other things like Dynamic Blackburns.

    But I think thats something I've made to suit my weaknesses and help my shoulder. But generally, strong middle back, rotators and serratus anterior will help most people. Anything more than that is dependent on each person.

    Desk work never helps anything. You can shift the focus of your work to try and counter act it, but its fighting a loosing battle. Im starting a more physical job, and looking forward to it, I hate sitting at a desk and never helps my back or shoulder.

    Sorry I cant be of any more help. I recommend 'Inside-Out' by Bill Hartman and Mike Robertson.
    Another idea is to email Eric Cressey. He really knows his stuff on shoulders, and is quite helpful. I've emailed him before for some advice, many others do.

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    Re:No Presses For Moi 2009/07/26 23:38:43 (permalink)
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    Thanks Lewis for that really helpful mate.

    Could do with changin jobs myself!

    Thanks again i may email Eric Cressey if things dont improve in following months even after trying everything

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    Re:No Presses For Moi 2009/07/27 18:45:51 (permalink)
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    No problem mate. Feel free to drop me a message in my journal if you have any questions I might be able to help with.
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