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2009/07/27 18:51:03 (permalink)
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Nothing for kids to do, an excuse for crime?

Just watching a bit on the news about the summer holidays and kids turning to crime for something do over the break.

Is this really an excuse?  Whenever they interview 'naughty' kids they always say there is nothing to do so they turn to crime.

Would this person really be detered from doing a crime by a youth club being setup in their area or something similiar?

I'd've thought there was more to do now then there has been in the past, internets, better consoles, more money for bikes, skateboards, nicer jobs in retail rather than going down the pit etc

What do you think?  Are your kids one youth club closure away from an asbo?

Did you have anything to do when a kid and did you turn to crime?

We had a fair amount to do around my way and my mum would've paid for me to do any classes or similar but I chose to hang around smoking weed all holidays.
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    ard-eoin tim
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    Re:Nothing for kids to do, an excuse for crime? 2009/07/27 18:56:32 (permalink)
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    crime most my life , i always found an excuse for it
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    Re:Nothing for kids to do, an excuse for crime? 2009/07/27 18:56:38 (permalink)
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    Its not the complete picture, but yes, its a very high contributing factor.
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    Re:Nothing for kids to do, an excuse for crime? 2009/07/27 19:04:52 (permalink)
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    The Devil will find work for idle hands to do.

    Some people will steal, cause sh1t no matter what but there are those , like me if kept occupied will steer away from it, Youth Clubs in my day saved a hell of a lot of kids from crime, there was something to do virtually every night of the week and in the days during holidays.

    These days there doesn`t seem to be that many options around, certainly not to the extent we had it anyway, lack of finance is probably a big reason but I bet it would be loose change when compared to the rise in crime during these periods.

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    Re:Nothing for kids to do, an excuse for crime? 2009/07/27 19:09:58 (permalink)
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    What kids have or havn't to do seems a small part of the picture. How they are raised and in what area seems to me the biggest part.

    I think kids in general have more to do than I did. But then I was not raisde in a deprived area etc

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    Re:Nothing for kids to do, an excuse for crime? 2009/07/27 19:12:49 (permalink)
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    There's only nothing to do because authority figures and adult figures do not guide them into interests to take up their time.

    Neglected kids do things to get kicks to fill their time. I was no different. Petty stuff really.

    When given a focus and something to throw their energy into, a general direction, kids are far more contented.
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    Re:Nothing for kids to do, an excuse for crime? 2009/07/27 19:29:25 (permalink)
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    Excuse? No.

    Contributory factor? probably


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    Re:Nothing for kids to do, an excuse for crime? 2009/07/27 19:34:16 (permalink)
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    Is crime more fun than table-tennis?

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    Re:Nothing for kids to do, an excuse for crime? 2009/07/27 19:42:20 (permalink)
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    JohnKerr2

    Is crime more fun than table-tennis?


    It is if someone has nicked the bats.
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    Re:Nothing for kids to do, an excuse for crime? 2009/07/27 19:42:48 (permalink)
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    JohnKerr2

    Is crime more fun than table-tennis?



    Much more!

    TBH i think that youth clubs in some areas will create more crime then it prevents...it'd create a meeting place for local criminals/gangs to meet up. Playing darts or snooker isn't going to steer a young criminal away from making 1000's of pounds.
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    Re:Nothing for kids to do, an excuse for crime? 2009/07/27 19:43:21 (permalink)
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    u will never gets a buzz of table tennis like u do when commiting a crime , its adictive that feeling but im glad to say i havnt felt it in a while
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    Re:Nothing for kids to do, an excuse for crime? 2009/07/27 19:44:43 (permalink)
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    I used to have 2-3 hours homework during the week when I was at school.  When do these kids find the time to do their homework?  
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    Re:Nothing for kids to do, an excuse for crime? 2009/07/27 19:58:18 (permalink)
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    I used to play football, football and more football and inbetween then went on my Sega or Nintendo.  Didn't feel the need for crime. 

    If anything, its down to the way they are raised.  Raised to expect something to happen, it will.  Kids these days all think they will be rockstars, rappers or some kind of sex kitten and will anything that appears cool to get there.

    Only problem is, for 99.9% of kids this leads to no-where and another number on benefits.
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    Re:Nothing for kids to do, an excuse for crime? 2009/07/27 20:03:45 (permalink)
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    It's the fact that there seems no way to convince them that it will lead to nothing.  Saw something the other night in an inner city community club type place and the woman running it was saying that the kids just expected other people to provide for them and their aspirations were to be reality tv stars, footballers or tv presenters.  They couldn't convince them of the need to learn basics like reading and writing and these were mid teenagers not just little kids.
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    Re:Nothing for kids to do, an excuse for crime? 2009/07/27 20:21:44 (permalink)
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    Def a factor but whereas 20/30 years ago, we might shoplift, it seems to be more serious these days.

    My username has nothing to do with my religious beliefs.....
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    Re:Nothing for kids to do, an excuse for crime? 2009/07/27 20:42:46 (permalink)
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    I remember we shopplifted maybe 3 or 4  items on half days from school.  The difference was, for us it was completely taboo.  Like the worst thing we could have done.  One of the guys was so guilty he took a pen he had lifted back and put it on the rack in Boots.  I doubt many of the kids nowadays think that way.

    Kids have always misbehaved, but theres always been people in the community to keep control.  The thing I was watching the other night made another good point in that you used to have bus conductors, parkies, etc , basically people who's job was to keep order in a discreet way.  Now those jobs have all gone.  I think it's just a lot of smaller changes, including things like family breakup rates that contribute to how things are now.  There isn't one single issue.
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    Re:Nothing for kids to do, an excuse for crime? 2009/07/27 20:52:44 (permalink)
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    As others have said it's not the cause but it is a contributory factor. I was brought up well in a loving family environment in a pretty affluent area - had i walked in somebody elses shoes in my teens i would likely be in a very different situation right now. Having said that knowing the above simply gives me compassion and sympathy for people who have it tough - it does not excuse certain behaviour but it can help to explain it.

    I could do some terrible things but i woiuld simply have to accept the consequences of them and not wriggle out of it. Excusing things is not the way forward im my humble opinion.

    Awesome pic, but Tony you're not doing yourself many favours posting up tips on preventing the gag reflex and then a picture of a guy touching his toes - Ak
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    Re:Nothing for kids to do, an excuse for crime? 2009/07/27 22:24:11 (permalink)
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    Bollox IMO.

    Discipline really..or lack of it

    many generations survived without knifing or robbing each other with far less options than today's kids.

    Ok, crime existed in years past but it's gotten far worse and to still keep banging the 'nothing for the kids to do' drum is laughable
    post edited by Neb - 2009/07/27 22:32:55
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    Re:Nothing for kids to do, an excuse for crime? 2009/07/27 22:25:46 (permalink)
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    You have not seen some of the areas I have seen mate....
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    Re:Nothing for kids to do, an excuse for crime? 2009/07/27 22:31:58 (permalink)
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    well, if that post is for me then I don't get it?

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