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2006/07/13 16:32:47 (permalink)
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Overhead Press

Aquick one, would you guys say there is a difference between Overhead Press and Military Press? I have always assumed that a standing Overhead Press was a military press. Just want to make sure.
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    dirtyvest
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    RE: Overhead Press 2006/07/13 16:59:17 (permalink)
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    They are the same thing
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    RE: Overhead Press 2006/07/13 17:25:23 (permalink)
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    Agreed. Although you can do the OH press seated. The military press, I think, by definition is standing. Could be wrong though!
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    RE: Overhead Press 2006/07/13 17:26:45 (permalink)
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    But you aren't... soldiers do it standing with their rifles, hence the name
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    RE: Overhead Press 2006/07/13 19:33:10 (permalink)
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    The original Military Press is performed with the heels together.

    But most people refer to military and standing press as the same thing.
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    RE: Overhead Press 2006/07/21 02:43:29 (permalink)
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    The military press is a shoulder wrecker, like the u[right row IMO you have a big chance of hurting your roator cuff, but the MP hits all 3 delts (i think), but the shoulder press hits 2...i think, but is much safer
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    RE: Overhead Press 2006/07/21 12:35:09 (permalink)
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    what?

    the heat must be getting to you
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    RE: Overhead Press 2006/07/21 13:43:36 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Brad_Jackson

    http://www.planetout.com/fitness/article.html?sernum=3315&navpath=/topics/fitness/workout/





    No mention of the military press there pal.
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    RE: Overhead Press 2006/07/21 14:01:06 (permalink)
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    ive always thought that "overhead press" is the generic term for all presses of any type above the head. this could be seated DB shoulder press, arnie press, seated BB shoulder press, standing DB shoulder press, or standing BB shoulder press.

    I think that "military press" strictly means standing BB shoulder press but is oftend misuesd. so a standing DB shoulder press wouldnt be a military press. this is because soldiers did it with their rifles, so it has to be a BB....

    my interpretation anyway.
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    RE: Overhead Press 2006/07/21 19:26:40 (permalink)
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    Behind-the-neck presses (i.e military press) and pulldowns rival the upright row for injury potential to the shoulder joint. These types of exercises put intense strain on the rotator cuff muscles -- a group of four muscles instrumental in supporting and stabilizing the shoulder joint. Burdened with a tough task, the rotator cuffs are nonetheless delicate in nature, and rotator cuff strains and tears are some of the most common weightlifting-related injuries.


    Behind-the-neck cable exercises force your shoulders to rotate externally, placing the rotator cuffs into a vulnerable position of instability and the entire shoulder joint into a position vulnerable to dislocation.

    Actually look at the link this time! lol
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    RE: Overhead Press 2006/07/21 19:39:25 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Brad_Jackson
    Behind-the-neck presses (i.e military press) and pulldowns rival the upright row for injury potential to the shoulder joint. These types of exercises put intense strain on the rotator cuff muscles -- a group of four muscles instrumental in supporting and stabilizing the shoulder joint. Burdened with a tough task, the rotator cuffs are nonetheless delicate in nature, and rotator cuff strains and tears are some of the most common weightlifting-related injuries.


    Behind-the-neck cable exercises force your shoulders to rotate externally, placing the rotator cuffs into a vulnerable position of instability and the entire shoulder joint into a position vulnerable to dislocation.

    Actually look at the link this time! lol

    dude do you know what a parrot is?

    what are YOUR experiences, or YOUR knowledge. You've just googled the problem and cut and paste a load of tosh - hell now i cant do sit-ups, behind the neck press, lat pull downs or leg extensions becasue some fitness guru says their dangerous.


    Pain is just weakness leaving the body..
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    RE: Overhead Press 2006/07/21 23:09:53 (permalink)
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    Behind-the-neck presses (i.e military press) and pulldowns rival the upright row for injury potential to the shoulder joint. These types of exercises put intense strain on the rotator cuff muscles -- a group of four muscles instrumental in supporting and stabilizing the shoulder joint. Burdened with a tough task, the rotator cuffs are nonetheless delicate in nature, and rotator cuff strains and tears are some of the most common weightlifting-related injuries.


    Behind-the-neck cable exercises force your shoulders to rotate externally, placing the rotator cuffs into a vulnerable position of instability and the entire shoulder joint into a position vulnerable to dislocation.

    Actually look at the link this time! lol


    What a load of tosh. Most rotator cuff injuries are caused by benching with bad form. Elbows excessively flaired, bringing the bar down too high.

    Oh, and who said anything about behind the neck presses?, last time I checked this thread was about military pressing, not behind the neck pressing.
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    RE: Overhead Press 2006/07/22 03:55:34 (permalink)
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    dude do you know what a parrot is? - yes e8_pack, last time I looked I ****ed your mom in the same room as one...I had to look at it quite a lot since she was piss ugly.....

    what are YOUR experiences - from what ive read about you, a **** load more then you boy (22yrs experience, myself and many of my friends/training partners have stuffered injuries with these exercises)

    or YOUR knowledge - lets just say you're the student in this situation (I have a Bsc degree in exercise science and a Msc degree in sports science)

    You've just googled the problem and cut and paste a load of tosh - hell now i cant do sit-ups, behind the neck press, lat pull downs or leg extensions becasue some fitness guru says their dangerous.
    - oh you can, but abuse it and you're end up hurting yourself

    you can do those exercises, but the upright row and behind the neck presses are high risk exercises

    My advice to you, since you look small and have poor lats and delts, is too stop the uprights and militarys and do some quality none risk exercises....yanks, always full of ****.

    Olly look up military pressing, I think your find its behind your neck you homo. Actually do your research stop taking gear like a fanny, train hard and keep quiet

    Don't bother replying, this thread is dead....and I have a lovely month holiday away. See you in a month ladies
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    RE: Overhead Press 2006/07/22 09:43:05 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Brad_Jackson

    dude do you know what a parrot is? - yes e8_pack, last time I looked I ****ed your mom in the same room as one...I had to look at it quite a lot since she was piss ugly.....

    what are YOUR experiences - from what ive read about you, a **** load more then you boy (22yrs experience, myself and many of my friends/training partners have stuffered injuries with these exercises)

    or YOUR knowledge - lets just say you're the student in this situation (I have a Bsc degree in exercise science and a Msc degree in sports science)

    You've just googled the problem and cut and paste a load of tosh - hell now i cant do sit-ups, behind the neck press, lat pull downs or leg extensions becasue some fitness guru says their dangerous.
    - oh you can, but abuse it and you're end up hurting yourself

    you can do those exercises, but the upright row and behind the neck presses are high risk exercises

    My advice to you, since you look small and have poor lats and delts, is too stop the uprights and militarys and do some quality none risk exercises....yanks, always full of ****.

    Olly look up military pressing, I think your find its behind your neck you homo. Actually do your research stop taking gear like a fanny, train hard and keep quiet

    Don't bother replying, this thread is dead....and I have a lovely month holiday away. See you in a month ladies


    22 years experience and you don't know the difference between a military press and b/neck press! Where did you study you MSc and BSc?

    Wipe the sand outta yer fanny and get in the f***ing squat rack!
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    RE: Overhead Press 2006/07/22 10:36:10 (permalink)
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    The military press takes its name from soldiers who press their rifles above their heads, from in front of their faces

    No offence Brad, but you're chatting a load of ****e and are a cock. Go to bodybuilding.com and find somone there who will listen to you.
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    RE: Overhead Press 2006/07/22 13:37:03 (permalink)
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    Olly look up military pressing, I think your find its behind your neck you homo. Actually do your research stop taking gear like a fanny, train hard and keep quiet


    You my friend, are a C.UNT. Before you start posting bullsh!t on training boards, why don't you check your facts? A military press is NOT a behind the neck press, people have been doing military presses before racks even existed, how do you suppose they got the weight behind their heads?

    Oh and any time you want to come down and train with a 'homo gear taking fanny' then feel free. Although we don't tolerate dumb, ignorant pricks lightly. Maybe you'd even learn a thing or two.
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    RE: Overhead Press 2006/07/22 14:14:51 (permalink)
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    RE: Overhead Press 2006/07/22 17:15:53 (permalink)
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    thats funny!!!!

    you always know who the kids are when they start calling you names!!!

    Pain is just weakness leaving the body..
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    RE: Overhead Press 2006/07/22 18:23:17 (permalink)
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    oh you can, but abuse it and you're end up hurting yourself


    Although you obviously know f*ck all about lifting , I am prepared to believe you can speak with authority on the subject of self abuse

    No biggie like, there are a lot worse things for you than using steroids, I mean I probably shouldn't have been smoking crack or getting into bar fights at your age TBH  - drab4

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