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2006/07/12 11:07:42 (permalink)
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PCT for 4-ohn

hi, just coming to the end of a 4 week methyl 4 ohn cycle and methyl rage with the last week on 10mg of s/dol worked well for me (not looking for size) now i have tamoxifen 20mg tabs for pct what the dosage and cycle length have also got trib and zma at hand, thanks .
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    RE: PCT for 4-ohn 2006/07/12 11:10:27 (permalink)
    sorry to heist you post mate but what dosage of m4ohm is best for someone who is 168 lbs 15% bodyfat??

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    RE: PCT for 4-ohn 2006/07/12 11:20:42 (permalink)
    For your PCT i would run nolva 40 20 20 20. Weeks 1-4. Take your ZMA and trib before bed with a decent dose of fish oil. Your cycle was mild so I wouldn't anticipate any problems. However it may be prudent to get your chol levels checked, i think you can do it free at Boots now??

    Wiki C, how tall are you and what age? it may be a little early to be running such products?
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    RE: PCT for 4-ohn 2006/07/12 11:26:22 (permalink)
    21 fella and i am 5, 11

    thought as this is the weakest of the week (of PH) it would be a good starting point, not looking to bloat up 20lbs with water retention, people might get a bit suspect lol
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    RE: PCT for 4-ohn 2006/07/12 11:40:02 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: wilki_C

    21 fella and i am 5, 11

    thought as this is the weakest of the week (of PH) it would be a good starting point, not looking to bloat up 20lbs with water retention, people might get a bit suspect lol


    It is a mild compound yes but at 21 I really do doubt your need for it. I dont want to come across as condescending but you may be better served by posting up your diet in the nutrition forum and seeing what result you can get through that.
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    RE: PCT for 4-ohn 2006/07/12 11:51:12 (permalink)
    already got my diet sorted out by the diet side a couple months ago, have made some steady gains of probably a couple pounds since then which is pretty good but i am an impatient bugger lol. will take your thoughts on board though and will take them very seriously.

    may wait a few more months to see what results the diet produces.
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    RE: PCT for 4-ohn 2006/07/12 12:20:32 (permalink)
    I think thats a smart move, at 21 your test levels should still be high and regardless of what supps you take its your diet that will deliver results. If your looking for an edge there are plenty of other non hormonal goodies you could have a play around with. The obvious one would be creatine CEE being the current favourite. You could look at pre work out stimulants to try and push yourself harder in the gym, I mentioned a few in a recent thread. You could look at a product like Activate or ALRI's Jungle Warfare - yes its got a cool name but its also getting good reviews and its non hormonal. There are plenty of good non hormonals around since the US ph ban.
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    RE: PCT for 4-ohn 2006/07/12 12:55:31 (permalink)
    cheers fella, just come off some cee and noticed a little increase in strength. Have read about jungle warfare but as the same reason you gave me for not taking the M4ohn as my test levels are quite high it will not do anything for me:( (so the shop assistant said)

    will have a butches at some alternative products

    cheers JMA
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    RE: PCT for 4-ohn 2006/07/12 12:56:24 (permalink)
    wilki c dont bother with p/h as you are still young just train hardand use all that nat test that ooozzzing around your body,wait a few years but lik JMA said try a pre workout stim but only on your most punishing sessions as your body will get used to the stimulants and there arnt many poeple who can train to the point of destruction you have to be vey strong mentally stimulants will help you reach another level but leave the p/h alone.
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    RE: PCT for 4-ohn 2006/07/12 12:58:24 (permalink)
    pre work out stim keep it simple 400-600mg caffine and a dash of ephidrine will work and its cheap and simple but only use it for your kellier workouts!!
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    RE: PCT for 4-ohn 2006/07/12 13:23:36 (permalink)
    ok cool, silly question but whee can i get the caffine from? (appart from coffee, redbull etc
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    RE: PCT for 4-ohn 2006/07/12 13:48:18 (permalink)
    loads of places muscle finnesse do prolab ones at 200mg job done.
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    RE: PCT for 4-ohn 2006/07/12 14:27:09 (permalink)
    just out of curiousty what would be the average dosage for someone of my build? as after a bit of research some people are saying dosages of 20-40mg are needed to see results whereas the bottle says do not take more than 16mg. this has got me intreaged lol
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    RE: PCT for 4-ohn 2006/07/12 14:47:22 (permalink)
    im not a body builder so im not the right person to ask, i use it for recovery and strength gains.but i dosed at 1 tab in 1st week with 4 methyl rage tabs then 2 tabs week 2 and 3 tabs foe week 3-4 with 10mg of s/drol for the last week as well
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