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2019/05/15 16:38:18 (permalink)
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PIP of the crippling variety

I am currently on the second week of my first cycle. For my first week, I did .15ml ED prop 200, with some significant but manageable pip. I also rotated between both quads and both medial delta (four sites in total).
Beginning my second week, I brought my dosing up to where I intend to keep it for eight weeks: .25ml prop200, .45ml npp 100.
My first injection of this combination went into my left delt with a 25g 5/8” pin. 12 hours later, minor pip developed. Within 24 hours, the length of the medial delt hurt like hell (pain rating 7/10) and was just slightly hot and firm and tender. By 48 hours it was an 8/10, then each day until the 6th day the pain abated very slightly. I was worried about infection, but it didn’t get worse after the 48 hours, so I waited it out.
Upon advice from someone, I hit both quads in the meaty upper portion (not the outer where I had been), and I have been almost unable to walk for three days. The entire upper thigh muscle is firm, absurdly sensitive to the touch, slightly red and warm. It is, in short, the same pattern I experienced with the delt.
I considered that maybe the gear had become contaminated, but to test it I did the full dose in the delt that got irritated before, and I’m at 30 hours with no discomfort whatsoever. A few more notes before my question:
-I used a 25g 5/8” for each of the problematic injections (delt and quad). I’m an ectomorph with over a decade of lifting and dieting experience, and my thighs don’t get very large, so when I used a 1.5” pin it felt like I’d pushed all the way to bone.
-I do my injections ED immediately prior to my workout, thinking the exercise will help with integration of the oil.

So: what can I do differently? I hit the delt again hoping that the extreme pain was due to the opening of a new injection site, and no pip at that site this time around. However, I’m now scared to inject in new places, and the old sites have been used too recently. If anybody has gone through this and figured it out, please let me know. I’m intending to improve the quality of my life, but this pain is impossible to function with. And though the delt got better after a week, the thighs are even worse and my neurotic mind keeps screaming about possible infection. Thanks.
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Re: PIP of the crippling variety 2019/05/15 16:49:30 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby Ultimate warrior 2019/05/15 17:37:26
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Prop 200 😮+ new site + eod = 😬
Prop is usually 100 for a very good reason, personally I wouldn't entertain 200mg/ml.
 
Test E 500mg ew glute for the minimal pain win.

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Re: PIP of the crippling variety 2019/05/15 17:23:29 (permalink)
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Hrm - good to know. Would that account for the entire muscle becoming inflamed, rather than just at the site of injection ?
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Re: PIP of the crippling variety 2019/05/15 17:23:30 (permalink)
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Hrm - good to know. Would that account for the entire muscle becoming inflamed, rather than just at the site of injection ?
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Re: PIP of the crippling variety 2019/05/16 09:19:15 (permalink)
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Ha! Welcome to MT. As Silent rep said its the high concentration. They can bite hard.
You can dilute it with another compound for less PIP. otherwise switch, or suck it up. That said weeks of PIP can become a chore.
 
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Re: PIP of the crippling variety 2019/05/17 11:25:03 (permalink)
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LOL , I remember injecting Wildcat Prop 200 , I also remember the pain, crippling , almost impossible to walk sometimes. 
I`m pretty sure it was crashing out of solution in my muscle.  
Dilute it down if you can .  

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