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2014/12/14 20:46:02 (permalink)

Pan frying in oil, good for you- right?

Pretty simple q i have guys, in my mind it'd be good since using abit of extra virgin olive oil to fry steaks/curry meat etc etc is a good thing as its a healthy fat?
 
 
The only area i wouldnt fully be certain on, is the actual process of frying meat the process of how that cooks any worse than any different way of cooking in a big enough way to matter?
 
Or am i wrong and the frying process destroys some of the goodness of whatever is cooking in a structual way, and you may as well just stick your meat in an oven and drink a tablespoon of good oil for good fats in a smoothie a day ;)
 
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    Re: Pan frying in oil, good for you- right? 2014/12/14 21:15:29 (permalink)
    You can fry it in oil Rapeseed is pretty good.
     
    There are better oils like coconut but the smoking temperature is pretty low so not really good for a steak.
     
    Cooking of any sort will destroy nutrients but that woul dhappen if you use a frying pan or an oven , At the end of the day you gotta cook it :) just get a good oil to cool it in . You dont have to use loads either.



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    Re: Pan frying in oil, good for you- right? 2014/12/14 21:33:05 (permalink)
    Ah okay so for fan frying meat Extra virgin olive oil isnt the best option? Coconut is better?    I thought the omega 9 as well as the other good stuff in evoo gave it an edge
     
    (used steak as an example it'd be more thin slices of chicken/pork etc so not long cooking needed to get to high temps)
     
    So if any were better i'd just swap to the best oil to consume:)
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Pan frying in oil, good for you- right? 2014/12/15 08:50:09 (permalink)
    I cook most stuff in butter or coconut oil.

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    Re: Pan frying in oil, good for you- right? 2014/12/15 13:16:50 (permalink)
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    Ah okay so for fan frying meat Extra virgin olive oil isnt the best option? Coconut is better?    I thought the omega 9 as well as the other good stuff in evoo gave it an edge
     
    (used steak as an example it'd be more thin slices of chicken/pork etc so not long cooking needed to get to high temps)
     
    So if any were better i'd just swap to the best oil to consume:)
     
     
     
     
     
     
     


    No mate go with something like Rapeseed oil its better than Olive oil. As I say Coconut oil cant reach the temperatures needed for stead. (if a oil is smoking its not good, it loses its benefits) but if your cooking on a medium heat Coconut oil is the best oil for you.



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    Re: Pan frying in oil, good for you- right? 2014/12/15 21:03:14 (permalink)
    Refined Coconut oil has a higher smoke point, meaning it can get to higher temperature without it burning, therefore good for cooking anything at very high temperature, rice bran oil has a very high smoke point.
     
     I personally wouldn't use Olive oil for cooking/ frying with, better using on salads, drizzling on foods for flavour.
     
    Most oils become trans fats or carcinogenic when heated, saturated fats are less susceptible to this so go for animal fats, ghee, lard, goose fat or coconut oil. .
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    Re: Pan frying in oil, good for you- right? 2014/12/15 21:08:37 (permalink)
    Butter is my general choice, lately I have been keeping the fat from my weekly 2 roasted chickens and using that.... (kind of been using it to also make a mushroom gravy for my lunch too but don't tell anyone)
     
    Rarely use olive oil to fry with unless it's a quick one. Coconut oil works well for potatoes

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    Re: Pan frying in oil, good for you- right? 2014/12/15 21:45:44 (permalink)
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    Refined Coconut oil has a higher smoke point, meaning it can get to higher temperature without it burning, therefore good for cooking anything at very high temperature, rice bran oil has a very high smoke point.
     
     I personally wouldn't use Olive oil for cooking/ frying with, better using on salads, drizzling on foods for flavour.
     
    Most oils become trans fats or carcinogenic when heated, saturated fats are less susceptible to this so go for animal fats, ghee, lard, goose fat or coconut oil. .


    Not its not your wrong.
     
    It does have a higher smoking point but its still not high enough for "anything at very high temperatures" as youve stated.
     
    The smoking point for refined coconut oil is around 400, olive oil will start to smoke around 468, Rapeseed is similar.
     
    Unrefined coconut oil is 350.
     
    Olive oil is excellent to cook with but dont bother with extra virgin thats a waste of money in cooking save that for the salads.
     
     
     
     



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    Re: Pan frying in oil, good for you- right? 2014/12/16 00:01:58 (permalink)
    I'm right that refined coconut oil has a higher smoke point than unrefined and as its a saturated fat is still stable when heated to its smoke point and beyond unlike unsaturated oils which degrade below the smoke point.
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    Re: Pan frying in oil, good for you- right? 2014/12/16 14:55:19 (permalink)
    As above, using Olive oil for frying is wasteful as the heat will destroy any advantage that it has over other oils.
    Personally I fry in butter, it doesn`t have a particularly high smoke point but it is higher than Olive oil.

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    Re: Pan frying in oil, good for you- right? 2014/12/16 15:59:09 (permalink)
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    lately I have been keeping the fat from my weekly 2 roasted chickens and using that.... (kind of been using it to also make a mushroom gravy for my lunch too but don't tell anyone)

    Now that is an awesome idea.  Going to start keeping the fat from my roasts.  Do you just tub and refrigerate it?  How long does it last?

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    Re: Pan frying in oil, good for you- right? 2014/12/16 16:25:42 (permalink)
    ^^^^ I do this on the rare occassions that I roast chickens.
    Keeps well in the fridge, I pour it  through a sieve before cooling it down.

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    Re: Pan frying in oil, good for you- right? 2014/12/16 16:56:27 (permalink)
    So far it has kept for a week (maybe a day or 2 more) with no problems... I basically pour it all into a glass. Let it cool and refridgerate. Fat sits on the top for cooking, juices underneath work wonders once you have fried off some 'shrooms and onion, add a heaped tablespoon of set 'juice', a little flour and so once you have made that into a kind of roux add some milk and seasoning for top notch gravy

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    Re: Pan frying in oil, good for you- right? 2014/12/16 23:53:40 (permalink)
    Ideally you want to cook in fats that are highly saturated - they have single bonds in their fatty acid molecules so are more or less resistant to oxidation from heat. Polyunsaturates are quite fragile, which most vegetable oils have a high percentage of. I use, beef dripping, goose fat, kerrygold butter and coconut oil. Also said above if i cook bacon I pour whats left into a jar and let it set. Tastes funky when used to cook salmon though...
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    Re: Pan frying in oil, good for you- right? 2014/12/17 08:56:39 (permalink)
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    Ideally you want to cook in fats that are highly saturated - they have single bonds in their fatty acid molecules so are more or less resistant to oxidation from heat. Polyunsaturates are quite fragile, which most vegetable oils have a high percentage of. I use, beef dripping, goose fat, kerrygold butter and coconut oil. Also said above if i cook bacon I pour whats left into a jar and let it set. Tastes funky when used to cook salmon though...




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    Re: Pan frying in oil, good for you- right? 2014/12/17 08:56:49 (permalink)
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    So far it has kept for a week (maybe a day or 2 more) with no problems... I basically pour it all into a glass. Let it cool and refridgerate. Fat sits on the top for cooking, juices underneath work wonders once you have fried off some 'shrooms and onion, add a heaped tablespoon of set 'juice', a little flour and so once you have made that into a kind of roux add some milk and seasoning for top notch gravy




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    Re: Pan frying in oil, good for you- right? 2014/12/17 22:34:49 (permalink)
    Thanks for the replies understand the concept of the fats alot more now just a tiny bit confused since a lot of opinions lol :)
     
     
     
    To keep it simple then, in my case,  i don't fry at high temperatures and i eat just pan fried meat slowly cooked. Same with frying mince for curry and pasta dishes.
     
     
     
    So with how i do it whats simply more beneficial Extra virgin olive oil or Coconut oil since the factor of it being heated to high and somewhat ruined doesnt apply?
     
     
    And then have butter mixed in with some foods in moderate amount for its benefits?
     
     
    Last question guys ty for the help:)
     
     
     
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    Re: Pan frying in oil, good for you- right? 2014/12/18 09:19:18 (permalink)
    Using EVOO for cooking is a waste IMO, I use it for dressing only.
     
     

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    Re: Pan frying in oil, good for you- right? 2014/12/18 18:57:16 (permalink)
    Thanks I don't ever reach the 375 mark only about 250 so im literally just wondering what's the most healthy fat source + other internal benefits of either extra virgin, coconut, or rapeseed?     Or butter lol.
     
     
    Simply nutrition wise rather than smoke point:)
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    Re: Pan frying in oil, good for you- right? 2014/12/19 06:09:09 (permalink)
    I would try to avoid frying meat in oil on a regular basis.  You can minimize the amount of oil with a natural cooking spray.  For a healthy fat, avocados are good or salmon.
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