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Peronsal Training.

Finishing college soon and for my 18th I would like the money towards a Gym instructor level 2 course so I can earn some money during my gap year and then while at uni.

-I have heard that YMCA is the best/cheapest place to do this. Yes, no or sort of? experiences please?

-Which gyms offer the training for a level 3 personal trainer course, free of charge when working for them? How long does this training take after signing on to work for the gym? After this will your wage be raised? Experiences?

-How easy is it to get a job with one of the gyms that put on the level 3 training? Always hard because it's over subcribed, just luck whether you get in or not or very much down to your qualifications?
My qualifaction are all A's and B's in GCSE's and for A level will probably be around B,B,C. Qualified life guard. 5 months working for a graphic design/printing company as a sales person/designer.

-What is the wage for a level two gym instructor? Also what is the wage for a level 3 instructor?

-I see alot of the gym instructors both level 2 and 3 giving out bad advice to men. I also see them give every women the same routine which involves various exercises with an exercise ball and medicine ball. Will I be expected to do as the course has taught me or can I give my advice from my own knowledge. I will probably be 'shown the ropes' by someone at the gym I apply for by someone who would give advise I disagree with. Will this get me in trouble? Experiences again please?

Answer what ever questions you can please.

Thanks.



post edited by jack5r - 2008/05/17 16:50:00

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    RE: Gym instructor - questions. 2008/05/17 16:28:40 (permalink)
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    fitness first pay 12 grand a year for a level 2 trainer, and i think its 14 grand a year in london.

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    RE: Gym instructor - questions. 2008/05/17 16:30:18 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: 2 the max

    fitness first pay 12 grand a year for a level 2 trainer, and i think its 14 grand a year in london.


    How much is that an hour roughly? I won'y be working for the whole year as I am planning on travling. Do they put on the level 3 course training?

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    RE: Gym instructor - questions. 2008/05/17 17:12:51 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: jack5r

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    fitness first pay 12 grand a year for a level 2 trainer, and i think its 14 grand a year in london.


    How much is that an hour roughly? I won'y be working for the whole year as I am planning on travling. Do they put on the level 3 course training?

    i think you work shifts so one day from 6am till 2, or 2 till 10 or something i dont really know...its 250 a week though

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    RE: Gym instructor - questions. 2008/05/17 17:29:32 (permalink)
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    250 a week would be great. No bills yet although I can imagine I will have to pay for all my own food if I am earning that much. With going out/living money that's still 150 a week to save up for travling/uni.

    Is that what your doing?

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    RE: Gym instructor - questions. 2008/05/17 17:50:02 (permalink)
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    nah i looked into it but when i get a full time job after college i want to be earning at least 16k per annum so i can move out of my dads house.

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    RE: Peronsal Training. 2008/05/17 18:03:44 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: jack5r

    Finishing college soon and for my 18th I would like the money towards a Gym instructor level 2 course so I can earn some money during my gap year and then while at uni.

    -I have heard that YMCA is the best/cheapest place to do this. Yes, no or sort of? experiences please?

    -Which gyms offer the training for a level 3 personal trainer course, free of charge when working for them? How long does this training take after signing on to work for the gym? After this will your wage be raised? Experiences?
    I worked for DC Leisure, a chain that run leisure facilities mostly on behalf of local councils. They provide free training to take you from Reps Level 2 to Reps Level 3 then also will put you through their in-house 'PT Academy'
    Your basic wage won't increase but as soon as you can start PTing you will earn more depending on how succesful you are at attracting and more importantly, keeping clients.
    Expect around £12,500 basic fitness instructor wage with between £10-17.50 per PT session depending on whether it's on or off-shift and whether they are a member or not


    -How easy is it to get a job with one of the gyms that put on the level 3 training? Always hard because it's over subcribed, just luck whether you get in or not or very much down to your qualifications?
    My qualifaction are all A's and B's in GCSE's and for A level will probably be around B,B,C. Qualified life guard. 5 months working for a graphic design/printing company as a sales person/designer.
    You will only find a job in a gym that has a requirement for a new instructor. There is a fairly high turnover of gym staff so I'd imagine vacancies would be fairly easy to come by.
    When I was interviewing for new instructors, academic qualifications and fitness related qualifications were not the most important criteria for securing a position. Attitude, experience (with your own training at least), passion, social skills, were far more important that someone who simply had a string of qualifications but an inabilty to interact with members.


    -What is the wage for a level two gym instructor? Also what is the wage for a level 3 instructor?
    The same - see above

    -I see alot of the gym instructors both level 2 and 3 giving out bad advice to men. I also see them give every women the same routine which involves various exercises with an exercise ball and medicine ball. Will I be expected to do as the course has taught me or can I give my advice from my own knowledge. I will probably be 'shown the ropes' by someone at the gym I apply for by someone who would give advise I disagree with. Will this get me in trouble? Experiences again please?
    This is why I would prefer someone with a little more personal experience of training than someone fresh out of college/school/uni who has a load of qualifications but no real life knowledge of training.
    The courses will show you how to train members safely, they won't show you a strict set of exercises that you must do with all clients. Lazy instructors however, WILL do the same exercises with everyone instead of a bespoke programme suited to the members' needs and ability.
    Then there's the other end of the spectrum where you get instructors providing ridiculously technical exercises to complete beginners purely because they want to be seen to be different to all the other instructors. A decent instructor/PT will give appropriate, effective exercises according to the person


    Answer what ever questions you can please.

    Thanks.

    Hope that helps. Feel free to ask more. I think if you can get your passion and enthusiasm across to the members you'd be very succesful.
    post edited by Lord Monkcheese - 2008/05/17 18:04:31
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    RE: Peronsal Training. 2008/05/17 18:14:32 (permalink)
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    How long does it take to pass this course then? Could I get it sorted in 3 or so months and use it as a cheeky earner whilst studying?
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    RE: Peronsal Training. 2008/05/17 18:19:24 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Lord Monkcheese

    ORIGINAL: jack5r

    Finishing college soon and for my 18th I would like the money towards a Gym instructor level 2 course so I can earn some money during my gap year and then while at uni.

    -I have heard that YMCA is the best/cheapest place to do this. Yes, no or sort of? experiences please?

    -Which gyms offer the training for a level 3 personal trainer course, free of charge when working for them? How long does this training take after signing on to work for the gym? After this will your wage be raised? Experiences?
    I worked for DC Leisure, a chain that run leisure facilities mostly on behalf of local councils. They provide free training to take you from Reps Level 2 to Reps Level 3 then also will put you through their in-house 'PT Academy'
    Your basic wage won't increase but as soon as you can start PTing you will earn more depending on how succesful you are at attracting and more importantly, keeping clients.
    Expect around £12,500 basic fitness instructor wage with between £10-17.50 per PT session depending on whether it's on or off-shift and whether they are a member or not

    DC Leisure sounds great and so does the wage seeing as I will still be living at home. When you talk about PT sessions, are these assigned to you by the gym when members come in looking for personal training or are they found outside the gym?
    What other gyms to you know that do the level 3 training aswell?


    -How easy is it to get a job with one of the gyms that put on the level 3 training? Always hard because it's over subcribed, just luck whether you get in or not or very much down to your qualifications?
    My qualifaction are all A's and B's in GCSE's and for A level will probably be around B,B,C. Qualified life guard. 5 months working for a graphic design/printing company as a sales person/designer.
    You will only find a job in a gym that has a requirement for a new instructor. There is a fairly high turnover of gym staff so I'd imagine vacancies would be fairly easy to come by.
    When I was interviewing for new instructors, academic qualifications and fitness related qualifications were not the most important criteria for securing a position. Attitude, experience (with your own training at least), passion, social skills, were far more important that someone who simply had a string of qualifications but an inabilty to interact with members.

    Well I am actualy more passionate about this than what I plan to do at uni. A link to my journal would be a great indication of this I guess.

    -What is the wage for a level two gym instructor? Also what is the wage for a level 3 instructor?
    The same - see above

    -I see alot of the gym instructors both level 2 and 3 giving out bad advice to men. I also see them give every women the same routine which involves various exercises with an exercise ball and medicine ball. Will I be expected to do as the course has taught me or can I give my advice from my own knowledge. I will probably be 'shown the ropes' by someone at the gym I apply for by someone who would give advise I disagree with. Will this get me in trouble? Experiences again please?
    This is why I would prefer someone with a little more personal experience of training than someone fresh out of college/school/uni who has a load of qualifications but no real life knowledge of training.
    The courses will show you how to train members safely, they won't show you a strict set of exercises that you must do with all clients. Lazy instructors however, WILL do the same exercises with everyone instead of a bespoke programme suited to the members' needs and ability.
    Then there's the other end of the spectrum where you get instructors providing ridiculously technical exercises to complete beginners purely because they want to be seen to be different to all the other instructors. A decent instructor/PT will give appropriate, effective exercises according to the person


    Answer what ever questions you can please.

    Thanks.

    Hope that helps. Feel free to ask more. I think if you can get your passion and enthusiasm across to the members you'd be very succesful.


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    RE: Peronsal Training. 2008/05/17 18:20:17 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: CJW

    How long does it take to pass this course then? Could I get it sorted in 3 or so months and use it as a cheeky earner whilst studying?


    13 days.. lol. Over 3 weeks.

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    RE: Peronsal Training. 2008/05/17 18:33:51 (permalink)
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    When you talk about PT sessions, are these assigned to you by the gym when members come in looking for personal training or are they found outside the gym?
    What other gyms to you know that do the level 3 training aswell?

    Generally from members in the gym that want Personal Training. You'll usually have a profile on the wall and members can browse the available PTs and select one they prefer, or they can choose a PT who they know and look, or they can choose one they know to be competent, or if you're the person they speak to initially you can take them as your client that way.

    Clients can be found anywhere, for example you could take friendf or family and train them in the gym providing it all goes through the till. A manager and his assistant were sacked for doing private sessions and pocketing the cash at one of the Hampshire centres.

    All other gyms I've ever used you had to fund the Reps training yourself (Cannons, Holmes Place (now Virgin), Fitness First)

    Well I am actualy more passionate about this than what I plan to do at uni. A link to my journal would be a great indication of this I guess.

    The difficulty is getting this enthusiasm across to a member who in reality doesn't want to work hard and doesn't particularly enjoy training but has to if they want to shift some fat/improve their fitness. That's where the people skills come in.

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    RE: Peronsal Training. 2008/05/17 21:49:46 (permalink)
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    go on the dole/jobseekers allowance, I am meant to be doing a 4 week intensive course for a fitness instructor level 2 and it's free (coz i signed on the dole )

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    RE: Peronsal Training. 2008/05/17 22:04:25 (permalink)
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    Im Level 3 YMCA qualified and i work freelance PTing charge £30 quid an hour.

    You can do level 2 and 3 and a few other courses with YMCA over a intense 3 months. Its all easy apart from the level 3 test which i found quite hard if i am honest.

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    RE: Peronsal Training. 2008/05/17 22:17:10 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Scott32

    Im Level 3 YMCA qualified and i work freelance PTing charge £30 quid an hour.

    You can do level 2 and 3 and a few other courses with YMCA over a intense 3 months. Its all easy apart from the level 3 test which i found quite hard if i am honest.


    How much is this course though? We saw one which was 18 weeks long and I think, level 2 and 3 but it was nearing 3 grand.

    The level two course alone is 700. If I cannot fint a gym that will train me to level 3 I may have to think about the one above. Doubt it though because of the price.

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    RE: Peronsal Training. 2008/05/17 22:19:51 (permalink)
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    I payed 3grand mate.

    You can find gyms that train you to level 3 BUT it takes a good year to quailfy.

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    RE: Peronsal Training. 2008/05/17 22:28:19 (permalink)
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    I wanna be a PT too
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    RE: Peronsal Training. 2008/05/17 22:28:49 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: dianabolik

    go on the dole/jobseekers allowance, I am meant to be doing a 4 week intensive course for a fitness instructor level 2 and it's free (coz i signed on the dole )


    That sounds like a plan cause the courses are very expensive
    post edited by Icemansoldier - 2008/05/17 22:41:02
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    RE: Peronsal Training. 2008/05/17 22:29:50 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: Scott32

    I payed 3grand mate.

    You can find gyms that train you to level 3 BUT it takes a good year to quailfy.


    But if your working as level 2 fitness instructor it will be worth it imo
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    RE: Peronsal Training. 2008/05/17 22:30:16 (permalink)
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    Wil a sport science degree qualify you to be a PT level 3 reps does anyone know?
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