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2015/01/29 20:33:01 (permalink)
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Planning next cycle - what to go with?

Hi guys,
 
trying to plan my next cycle, currently:
 
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172lb (lost around 8lb recently due to a bad chest infection)
been training for years now
previously I've ran epistane and superdrol most recently along with osta
 
Now on SD I experienced a bit of shedding which is something I don't want from my next cycle, I understand its DHT related and to do with how androgenic a compound is (someone please correct me if I'm talking sh*t).
 
So what would you guys recommend for a bulking cycle thats easy on the hairline.. I'm open to almost anything (not injectables though). I was thinking 3/4 weeks of M1T as its less androgenic than SD and I read some amazing things.. I want to gain as much as possible while aggravating my bonce the least.
 
On an american board by the way there was a similar discussion and someone mentioned 1,4 andros being mild on sides.. can anyone help me out with what compounds theyre referring too and their suitability?
 
Cheers in advance!
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Re: Planning next cycle - what to go with? 2015/01/31 18:19:43 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby simonboyle 2015/02/10 21:43:07
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Hair loss is individual mate, so whilst a dht derivative has some arguments behind it as an accelerant for mpb, there is no set rule here.

For bulk, m1t can do a job. I'd suggesta lower dose, longer length cycle if you did choose it, maybe 10 or 15mg per day for 5 weeks?

Or maybe m4-ohn stacked?
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Re: Planning next cycle - what to go with? 2015/01/31 18:35:32 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby DaveW3000 2015/02/01 11:22:49
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Being derived from DHT doesn't mean a steroid is a strong androgen. Most steroids on the market were derived from DHT because they can't turn to actual DHT, which is a very potent androgen. IE they are actually much weaker androgens than DHT, or plain testosterone which in turn converts to DHT.
 
SD is a very weak androgen and M1T is a very strong one. In the studies available SD was found to be only 1/5 as androgenic as testosterone, M1T is like 9x as androgenic as testosterone (so 45x as androgenic as SD). These figures don't exactly translate directly to humans but M1T is so much more potent an androgen that if you shed on SD you almost certainly will on M1T (although weird reactions are not unheard of, some people lose hair on steroids that shouldn't cause it and vice versa).
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Re: Planning next cycle - what to go with? 2015/02/01 17:54:44 (permalink)
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I'm thinking M1T may be off the cards then!

Why can't my hair be more cooperative 🙈
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Re: Planning next cycle - what to go with? 2015/02/02 15:19:48 (permalink)
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When I started using steroids I just accepted that it could lead to side effects like hair loss etc... Fortunately it hasn't made too much hair fall out but i'm definitely thinner on top than I was before.
 
What really concerns me is my enlarged left ventricle. Not enough to make me stop though.
 
Everything comes with a risk~cost : benefit ratio.

I smoke. A lot. And i eat full fat mayo. So suck on that! ;-)
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Re: Planning next cycle - what to go with? 2015/02/02 15:52:24 (permalink)
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I just read bulking so M1T will fit there perfectly!Awesome compound
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Re: Planning next cycle - what to go with? 2015/02/10 20:14:56 (permalink)
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So after doing a lot of research I'm toying with the idea of running the new-ish sarm LGD since sides of SD/M1T etc bother me.
 
Thinking of running for 8 weeks for a bulk still. I've found a site I can get it for about 60 quid including delivery.
Its in liquid form but its buy one get one free 30ml bottle @ 10mg/ml.. I'm a bit concerned about the BOGOF offer so wondering if anyones used them before.. called researchliquids.eu its a subsite of superiorpeptide.com.. Or if anyone has a similarly cost effective place to get it that has a decent rep thatd be great.
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Re: Planning next cycle - what to go with? 2015/02/10 21:45:11 (permalink)
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m1t isn't really known for hair loss, but everyone is different.
as to other compounds, i prefer ones that make me feel better, so lmg, dianadrol, m4ohn, m14add, dimethabold. Pmag and halo are also popular for bulks with some.
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Re: Planning next cycle - what to go with? 2015/02/10 21:56:31 (permalink)
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I'm assuming I'm prone since I she'd on SD and I have a little thinning on the sides.

Will look up some of what you mentioned.

What are your thoughts on LGD? Can only find logs on US boards.. Some of the mass gains seem too good to be true on it. I'm leaning towards trying LGD for now and if I'm not happy with the results then maybe reconsider something stronger later on in the year!
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Re: Planning next cycle - what to go with? 2015/02/10 22:12:11 (permalink)
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it is legit
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Re: Planning next cycle - what to go with? 2015/02/11 13:56:45 (permalink)
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Nice one!

Anyone had any experience with the site I mentioned?

Will start a log when I can get hold of some that's cost effective
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Re: Planning next cycle - what to go with? 2015/02/11 15:15:51 (permalink)
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JW? yes, no shortage of people here willing to grease the JW pole, lol. Use it myself too, good guy, good products.
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Re: Planning next cycle - what to go with? 2015/02/11 16:00:35 (permalink)
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Not JW, iv used them before and was a quality service.

Edit: think I broke rules!
post edited by denters86 - 2015/02/11 22:07:59
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Re: Planning next cycle - what to go with? 2015/02/11 16:13:46 (permalink)
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no idea pal, and don't think you're allowed to ask that. edit your post.
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Re: Planning next cycle - what to go with? 2015/02/11 22:09:42 (permalink)
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My bad I thought we could discuss that!

Either way I've bit the bullet and ordered it! I may run a log since there's none on here for it.
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Re: Planning next cycle - what to go with? 2015/02/12 00:23:54 (permalink)
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no probs, yes log it please.
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Re: Planning next cycle - what to go with? 2015/02/12 17:27:29 (permalink)
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Would be interested to see a log on that too!
 
I've never used a SARM but the idea sounds very tempting.

I smoke. A lot. And i eat full fat mayo. So suck on that! ;-)
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Re: Planning next cycle - what to go with? 2015/02/12 19:43:35 (permalink)
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They're good mate, I love osta. Lgd has some very promising feedback.
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Re: Planning next cycle - what to go with? 2015/02/12 19:45:42 (permalink)
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Osta didnt really work for me,i prefer PH with a big sides/gains ratio as M1T or M-Dien :D
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Re: Planning next cycle - what to go with? 2015/02/14 17:46:00 (permalink)
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I'll deffo log it when it arrives then.

Tempted to stack it with osta at 12.5mg/day for the 8 weeks. Any thoughts on this? I'm gonna grab some nolva before I start just incase and will probably run a low dosed pct at the end for peace of mind. Maybe 20/20/10/10 ?
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