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Potential Ostarine Cycle - Olympus Labs: Enobos4rm

Hi All,
 
I'm considering running Ostarine for 6-8 weeks at a low dose. I don't really want to go past 20mg daily.
 
Previously ran some prohormones such as H-Drol and Epistane around 7-8 years ago. I'm 32, 6ft 3, and about 91kg at 13/14% bf. Diets on point and training is too more or less ( been training for 10/11 years). Looking to add a bit of size / weight as I've been fairly stagnant last few years. 
 
Would PCT be required for a low-ish dose cycle? If so, what sort of PCT? I would prefer not to use Nolva / Clomid.
 
Is Olympus Labs a trustworthy brand for Ostarine, or any other recommendations? I've read that alot of these SARMs company's just put anything in. 
 
To anyone that's used this, any common side effects? I've read some worrying things regarding night blindness, major drop in T-levels, increased risk of cancer etc..
 
Any opinions will be appreciated. Thanks
 
 
 
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    jim2509
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    Re: Potential Ostarine Cycle - Olympus Labs: Enobos4rm 2019/03/05 12:19:36 (permalink)
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    I think you'll get various opinions on this. Some people say a good OTC will suffice after low dose Osta, then some will say nope dont risk it and use Nolva/Clomid to ensure full recovery. Am starting Osta 10mg/11 keto 1ml/Dermacrine 2 pumps on Friday for a recomp 6-8 weeks and probably going to just use OL SUP3R PCT/Sustain Alpha....although have Clomid on standby just incase.
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    Re: Potential Ostarine Cycle - Olympus Labs: Enobos4rm 2019/03/07 10:35:52 (permalink)
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    Im actually running olympus labs uk ostarine 25mg a day for around 7 weeks as thats whats in the bottle. I'm on day 3 so abit to early to notice anything at all really. Im going to see how its going at around 6 weeks before I buy another bottle and for Pct Nolvadren xt arimistane androsta and DAA.   
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    Re: Potential Ostarine Cycle - Olympus Labs: Enobos4rm 2019/03/07 10:46:45 (permalink)
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    Nice one. Actually starting tmoz but have adjusted my cycle to Ostarine 20mg and Dermacrine 2-3 pumps a day. Also have CEL Cycle assist to keep any sides at bay. Going to do 8 weeks as well around 1800-2000 Kcals a day. Going to be mixing up weights and cardio as need to drop at least 5% body fat. Should set me up for summer then after 12 weeks off ill start bulking. Ill post up how i progress.
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    Re: Potential Ostarine Cycle - Olympus Labs: Enobos4rm 2019/03/07 10:57:14 (permalink)
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    Is Dermacrine a Dhea product? I was looking at dhea for pct and just generally keeping hormones levels up. 
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    Re: Potential Ostarine Cycle - Olympus Labs: Enobos4rm 2019/03/08 21:31:48 (permalink)
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    Is Dermacrine a Dhea product? I was looking at dhea for pct and just generally keeping hormones levels up. 

    Yes but i wouldnt use it for PCT. Id look at clomid at 25/25/25/25 but its hard to say as it depends on how shut down you could be after?? You could risk an OTC PCT but no telling how effective they are??
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    Re: Potential Ostarine Cycle - Olympus Labs: Enobos4rm 2019/03/09 09:29:24 (permalink)
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    I’m sticking with arimistane and DAA for pct depending what bloods say but it’s only a short Ostarine cycle. I did a short lgd cycle with no pct and my levels came back into range which was pretty stupid looking back but knowing that I’m pretty sure I’ll come back pretty fast with that pct from Ostarine.
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    Re: Potential Ostarine Cycle - Olympus Labs: Enobos4rm 2019/03/09 12:14:02 (permalink)
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    Nolva. Avoid clomid as the sides are too much for most.
    Dermacrine is suppressive too
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    Re: Potential Ostarine Cycle - Olympus Labs: Enobos4rm 2019/04/17 05:59:13 (permalink)
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    Hey guys,
    I have the Olympus UK Enobos4rm, LOT:810221 (bottom of the bottle)

    I was just wondering what your findings are and whether you have the same lot. I'm always a bit paranoid about whether what's in the bottle matches the label.
    After about a week I started to notice a huge rise in endurance, which really boosted my cycling performance and rep/set count in the gym. Decent pumps. But, I did feel quite wired, even on 15mg, so had to lower it to 10. Definitely felt like was "on something". I understand that's quite unusual on Ostarine?
    The price per mg is very cheap as well. About half of any other Ostarine out there.

    So just wondering what you guys found...
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    Re: Potential Ostarine Cycle - Olympus Labs: Enobos4rm 2019/04/17 07:12:03 (permalink)
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    Endurance should go up.
    Feeling wired and having to lower an already low dose? Nope.
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    Re: Potential Ostarine Cycle - Olympus Labs: Enobos4rm 2019/04/17 09:34:18 (permalink)
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    Guys what sarm/pro hormone W ould be best for a recomp? A little bit of fat loss with a little bit of lean gains. It’s hard deciding what to do atm haha. Thanks.
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    Re: Potential Ostarine Cycle - Olympus Labs: Enobos4rm 2019/04/17 12:07:34 (permalink)
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    i started using Ostarine before i took the plunge into gear, it helps lose fat and gain muscle, i was doing IF, took Cardarine before working out and Ostarine too, later moved to some RAD140 which added a few lbs of muscle whilst making me more defined.
     
    The company i used was MAX Muscle labs, it was decent and did the job, cant fault it. However each person has their own experience, just make sure to get your cals in and youll get bigger 
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    Re: Potential Ostarine Cycle - Olympus Labs: Enobos4rm 2019/04/17 17:35:45 (permalink)
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    Guys what sarm/pro hormone W ould be best for a recomp? A little bit of fat loss with a little bit of lean gains. It’s hard deciding what to do atm haha. Thanks.


    That's diet and training. Not drugs.
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    Re: Potential Ostarine Cycle - Olympus Labs: Enobos4rm 2019/04/19 14:08:49 (permalink)
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    Im of the opinion now that for the sides of Sarms at the advised conservative doses you might as well use real geal or PH's......maybe even the Andro's. If your going to get supressed/effect lipids/BP you might as well give yourself better gains.
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    Re: Potential Ostarine Cycle - Olympus Labs: Enobos4rm 2019/04/19 14:20:19 (permalink)
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    Not even close.
    Clearly not looked in to the. Or read any of the studies huh?
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    Re: Potential Ostarine Cycle - Olympus Labs: Enobos4rm 2019/04/19 23:06:38 (permalink)
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    I'd say the best studies are from those who have run pre and post cycle bloods then posted them on forums. From the majority that i have seen.....It appears Sarms aka Research Chemicals do have adverse effecs and in many people worse effects than previous AAS/PH'S they have run.

    We also dont know the longterm effects of using them either so its a fair comment/opinion to suggest there are perhaps better alternatives.
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    Re: Potential Ostarine Cycle - Olympus Labs: Enobos4rm 2019/04/19 23:26:54 (permalink)
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    I'd say you need to Google what "study" means.

    And what side effects that are worse?
    They aren't capable of causing most of the side effects that the most commonly used steroids can and do.

    So I honestly have no idea what you are referring too.

    Oral steroids Vs sarms on side effects?
    Sarms cause less sides, period.
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    Re: Potential Ostarine Cycle - Olympus Labs: Enobos4rm 2019/04/20 10:08:01 (permalink)
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    Well baring in mind Lgd say has from what i recall only 2 human studies on it and is awaiting phase 3 trials.....theres plenty of evidence from users who have had lipids trashed/high blood pressure and other issues....Side effects comparable to PH's.

    A fella on here canned his Lgd run/log early doors because of adverse effects. Ostarine has failed Phase 3 trials and previous other trials causing GTX shares to implode over the last few years.

    Also the lower dosages used in the studies arent being used by users and truth be told i suspect if they stay legal in years to come people will be using much higher dosages.

    Users have also reported adverse effects on Rad 140 and as for Cardarine....well good luck to anybody that uses that.

    What i am saying is they all have side effects and you cant say Sarms arent as bad in some people, nor do we know the long term outcomes.

    My opinion is people should weigh up the pros and cons and get the most out of any cycle. I have Lgd/Osta/Rad sat in my cuboard unused which is frustrating....mainly because i have trawled and read loads and loads from peoples experiences and their results/post bloods along with some studies....I think the jury is still out as to whether they are worth the sides.

    Each to there own though.
    post edited by jim2509 - 2019/04/20 10:13:16
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    Re: Potential Ostarine Cycle - Olympus Labs: Enobos4rm 2019/04/21 10:52:32 (permalink)
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    There we go "opinion".

    I can say exactly that as they are lower on sides than AAS..that's not opinion but just fact .

    Proof of said shares "imploding" due to ostarine?
    That's just a silly statement.

    And a couple of people reporting some sides on internet forumseans nothing. We're talking about scientifically validated results.
    Not some.bro saying it did X or y.

    Cardarine? Totally agree.

    And people weighing up all the info? Yup. Totally agree.

    But saying something that is blatantly unture is just stupid.

    Sarms do not have the same level or number of side effects as oral steroids.
    That, again. Is simply a fact. Not opinion.
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    Re: Potential Ostarine Cycle - Olympus Labs: Enobos4rm 2019/04/22 22:23:18 (permalink)
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    There we go "opinion".

    I can say exactly that as they are lower on sides than AAS..that's not opinion but just fact .

    Proof of said shares "imploding" due to ostarine?
    That's just a silly statement.

    And a couple of people reporting some sides on internet forumseans nothing. We're talking about scientifically validated results.
    Not some.bro saying it did X or y.

    Cardarine? Totally agree.

    And people weighing up all the info? Yup. Totally agree.

    But saying something that is blatantly unture is just stupid.

    Sarms do not have the same level or number of side effects as oral steroids.
    That, again. Is simply a fact. Not opinion.


    Well i have been trawling a bit more into Sarms since my last post mainly around research and actual human trials and follow ups....i have to say you are correct on this point. Any adverse effects noted on lipids also show they return to baseline following end of use and no evidence of longterm effects recorded. I even came across a Phase IV trial of Cardarine which tells the complete opposite of the GSK study on rats....obviously humans are different and it appears it may actually be beneficial in prevention of Heart Disease. Reality probably is that Sarms are not as bad as they are made out to be after all.

    There was a published study in UK press this week that said eating Bacon will increase your Stomach Cancer risk by 40%..even in small amounts. We're doomed either way.
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