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2007/06/06 19:42:25 (permalink)

Pre-school costs - anyone with kids or in the know

I seem to be having a very blond moment and can't get my head round the costs of nurseries and pre-school.

It's getting to that time when we have to start looking in to where the little guy is going to go. Some costs are fine, some are astonomical. But what I can't figure out is what is free and what isn't, where do we get help and where don't we.

Trying to look up early years education funding just sends you round in circles. I constantly read how under 5s get free early years education but am yet to find anything that is actually free. So I guess there are supplementary costs to pretty much every set up, which is fine. But how on earth do I find out what level of help I might get towards these costs to know which school I can afford to send the boy to.

Aaaarrggghh, computer screens, hayfever, no sleep and an inability to process whatever information I come across has left me slightly deranged now I feel so any help or light shed would be superb


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    RE: Pre-school costs - anyone with kids or in the know 2007/06/06 19:46:09 (permalink)
    i know in our village nursery, pre-school etc if a parent claims certain benefits, they are entitled to it for free

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    RE: Pre-school costs - anyone with kids or in the know 2007/06/06 19:46:17 (permalink)
    It is free the term after the child is 3, if that makes sense

    I think they allow upto £8 per session, Good luck D.V it is a daunting task
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    RE: Pre-school costs - anyone with kids or in the know 2007/06/06 19:47:47 (permalink)
    under 5s education is free not sure how it works where you are,but in all 6 cases with my kids all we had to do was put their names down at the local nurseries and see which one they got into,howeber it does help if you have taken the children to playgroups as a lot of nurseries are "attached" to them and it can be kind of a lead on thing into their education.
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    RE: Pre-school costs - anyone with kids or in the know 2007/06/06 19:58:29 (permalink)
    Yeah, trying to get our names (or his) onto 1 or 2 outside of our catchment as within we have a poor choice, so we're starting early. But they all highlight the cost per session, not one has made any hint at there being assistance of free places. I've seen one or 2 www. mention early years funding but search thru that and you just get spun.

    We do get Child Tax Credit.

    Still got a year and a half til he's 3 tho, but a nursery/playgroup first would be a bonus

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    RE: Pre-school costs - anyone with kids or in the know 2007/06/06 20:21:19 (permalink)
    For us, up till for the last 3years, full cost down to us. (way more than mortgage etc..)
    now daughter is 3 years, half days free at local school nursery.
    As we are unable to work around the half days ie. no one available to collect my daughter as myself and other half are at work we chose to keep her in full time at the private nursery shes already at. We now get a percentage of that paid for in place of the half day she could have at the school nursery.
    Still costly but not nearly as much as we have been used to.
    May be worth looking into child care vouchers through you employer, basically any costs are paid directly from you wages by your employer (up to a certain point) but you dont pay the tax... i think thats how it works.
    My employer has been telling me they will start this soon, and 3years on still not started.... Im not too suprised though as this is normal procedure ie what they tell us they will provide for staff and what we get are somewhat different lol.
    Hope that makes some sense but your right its almost impossible to find out whats available and whats not, basically if you work pay your taxes and dont sponge off the social then you get sh*t all in our experience.
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    RE: Pre-school costs - anyone with kids or in the know 2007/06/06 21:12:47 (permalink)
    Employer may be a good route for me actually, I get well looked after (at one of the top 6th form colleges in the country) so I'm sure they'll know where to point me if they can't/don't help direct.

    But it looks like, from 3, half days should be free (TBH at that point we'll only be doing 2 or 3 half days a week anyway I think). I take it the 'school' will know this LOL

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    RE: Pre-school costs - anyone with kids or in the know 2007/06/06 21:14:43 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: dirtyvest

    Yeah, trying to get our names (or his) onto 1 or 2 outside of our catchment as within we have a poor choice, so we're starting early. But they all highlight the cost per session, not one has made any hint at there being assistance of free places. I've seen one or 2 www. mention early years funding but search thru that and you just get spun.

    We do get Child Tax Credit.

    Still got a year and a half til he's 3 tho, but a nursery/playgroup first would be a bonus


    Your local education authority will be able to help you mate...

    We also got family tax credits when she was young...

    Didn't cost us anything to send her
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    RE: Pre-school costs - anyone with kids or in the know 2007/06/06 21:18:16 (permalink)
    council nurserys are free (included in your taxes) i think your entitled to 3 full days, dont quote me on that though.

    private nurserys arnt free usualy about the £25-£30 a day range.

    council nurserys have certin things to meet such as a ciriculum if you wish and is more strict also larger numbers.

    private dont have to meet the same ciriculum but are made to do stimulaiting activitys, the ratios seem to be less in prviate ones and also the teachers seem to be better.

    hope this is of some help
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    RE: Pre-school costs - anyone with kids or in the know 2007/06/06 21:18:55 (permalink)
    We get tax credits but the nursery is over £400 a month for 3 days a week...bloody rip off

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    RE: Pre-school costs - anyone with kids or in the know 2007/06/06 21:23:20 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Neb

    We get tax credits but the nursery is over £400 a month for 3 days a week...bloody rip off

    that is expensive... i assume its private?
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    RE: Pre-school costs - anyone with kids or in the know 2007/06/06 21:23:56 (permalink)
    Is that full days Neb..... I think you are meant to only get 12.5hrs a week free.

    The costs are mad tho, I guess they need the money somehow but with a family of 4, low income, that's like 1/4 our monthly spends gone and we're already just breaking even now FFS

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    RE: Pre-school costs - anyone with kids or in the know 2007/06/06 21:24:26 (permalink)
    They all are round my way mate tbh

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    RE: Pre-school costs - anyone with kids or in the know 2007/06/06 21:25:16 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: dirtyvest

    Is that full days Neb..... I think you are meant to only get 12.5hrs a week free.

    The costs are mad tho, I guess they need the money somehow but with a family of 4, low income, that's like 1/4 our monthly spends gone and we're already just breaking even now FFS


    We only had the little one in 3 hrs ED...

    and 2.5hrs on a Fri morning...

    Neb - must be private mate IMO??
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    RE: Pre-school costs - anyone with kids or in the know 2007/06/06 21:27:51 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: dirtyvest

    Is that full days Neb..... I think you are meant to only get 12.5hrs a week free.

    The costs are mad tho, I guess they need the money somehow but with a family of 4, low income, that's like 1/4 our monthly spends gone and we're already just breaking even now FFS


    he goes 8-5 mate, tues, wed and thurs, he has his dinners and stuff included but we still have to provide nappies FFS...these things are a gold mine for the owners

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    RE: Pre-school costs - anyone with kids or in the know 2007/06/06 21:29:03 (permalink)
    Yes, I think the state ones we've seen here would come to about £80 a month if we had to pay - still £80 I haven't really got but it's a good school if we get accepted (just the wrong side of the final catchment street, opposite side of the road and we'd be in).

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    RE: Pre-school costs - anyone with kids or in the know 2007/06/06 21:30:20 (permalink)
    We only had the little one in 3 hrs ED...

    and 2.5hrs on a Fri morning...

    Neb - must be private mate IMO??
    yeah private mick but tbh there is no other option to us locally. There are around 7 nurseries all charging approx the same, pain in the arse LOL

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    RE: Pre-school costs - anyone with kids or in the know 2007/06/06 21:31:13 (permalink)
    Nursey in our area was available from the age of 3, and free from the age of 3 and a quarter. So we had to pay for 3 months until she reached the 'free' age.

     
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    RE: Pre-school costs - anyone with kids or in the know 2007/06/06 21:35:31 (permalink)
    It should be free for the 1st term after their 3rd birthday so Zach's 3 next Dec, so Jan he gets it free - it would be the same start date if he were born Sept, Oct, Nov. But if he was 3 in Jan, he'd have to wait until April for a free place

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    RE: Pre-school costs - anyone with kids or in the know 2007/06/06 21:43:00 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: dirtyvest

    It should be free for the 1st term after their 3rd birthday so Zach's 3 next Dec, so Jan he gets it free - it would be the same start date if he were born Sept, Oct, Nov. But if he was 3 in Jan, he'd have to wait until April for a free place


    This is a decent break then. Our boy was born in April, and so we don't get anything, gratis, until the September term.

    I know all local authorities vary, but getting your son into the pre-school/nursery outside the catchment area is a smart move if you like the look of the school for him as he gets older. It can often guarantee that they will then get a place into the school 'proper' when he is old enough. The DFES gives a decent list of schools and the criteria under which kids are admitted if that is of any interest (but not related to your original question I know).

    Ah right, basically then you're a fcuking cripple who can only lie down on a bench for sports nowadays?


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