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2018/10/02 08:01:21 (permalink)
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Prohormones

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Cannot believe after all this time I am posting a question about them, but here goes!  Is there anything out there that really makes a difference?  I've never really used these before and instead would run a test enanthate and d'bol for 2-3 months.  Not interested in running injectables anymore since the wife found the pins many years back!! 

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Re: Prohormones 2018/10/02 08:16:10 (permalink)
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the more popular PHs are Superdrol, Epistane & halodrol and, if you're only looking for orals, are probably your best shot. You will* notice gains from them, but they're never going to be as evident as injectables.
 
There are SARMS which is an emerging market too, though i've no personal experience of using them yet
 
 
(*should, provided you're training, eating & drinking and resting properly whilst on cycle.)
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Re: Prohormones 2018/10/02 08:36:14 (permalink)
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the more popular PHs are Superdrol, Epistane & halodrol and, if you're only looking for orals, are probably your best shot. You will* notice gains from them, but they're never going to be as evident as injectables.
 
There are SARMS which is an emerging market too, though i've no personal experience of using them yet
 
 
(*should, provided you're training, eating & drinking and resting properly whilst on cycle.)


Thanks mate.  Any nasty side effects from these.  Not worried about getting back to the size and strength of injecables now, plus it was soooo obvious I was taking them!  Main goals for me is some muscle size and to be able to diet down long term without looking too small.

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Re: Prohormones 2018/10/05 06:57:45 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby Sheriff Morris 2018/10/08 16:21:48
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Biggest sides are suppression of natural test, requiring a PCT to kick start your balls back into production again.
 
Superdrol is pretty tough on cholesterol, halo not quite as bad. People say they are hard on liver but I've not seen any evidence on my recent blood tests.
 
Halodrol is the best I have used so far for a slow, sustainable PED. It won't be injectable gains but will kick you a notch or two up the ladder.

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Re: Prohormones 2018/10/08 18:46:11 (permalink)
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They are all pretty damn good to be fair.
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Re: Prohormones 2018/10/11 07:36:02 (permalink)
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There's a good pro hormone called trenavar or something like that and is still legal. Its stocked by few online companies think research pharma do it.

If going down AAS route then the ones mentioned above,if sarms then maybe things like ostarine, lgd etc
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Re: Prohormones 2018/10/11 07:40:48 (permalink)
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I ran Superdrol many, many years ago and remember it being very good. 
 
I recall M1T also been good and ran it a couple of times, but preferred Superdrol. 
 
Cant comment on the newer ones as I haven't used them.

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Re: Prohormones 2018/10/11 13:21:31 (permalink)
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Superdrol and Epi (dosed high) are both great options.
 
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Re: Prohormones 2018/10/11 13:24:21 (permalink)
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Yup
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Re: Prohormones 2018/10/11 14:51:36 (permalink)
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Thanks all, I remember M1T many years ago when i was running test.  I will look at the ones suggested. 
Never really thought that these were any good, and when anyone in the gym would mention them we would quietly giggle!
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Re: Prohormones 2018/10/11 15:05:12 (permalink)
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If you thought test made it soooo obvious you were on steroids then you're in for a treat with M1T.
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Re: Prohormones 2018/10/11 15:38:49 (permalink)
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If you thought test made it soooo obvious you were on steroids then you're in for a treat with M1T.


lol, the effects anything like taking just d'bol?  I just don't want that bloated look.

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Re: Prohormones 2018/10/11 15:52:03 (permalink)
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If you thought test made it soooo obvious you were on steroids then you're in for a treat with M1T.


lol, the effects anything like taking just d'bol?  I just don't want that bloated look.






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Re: Prohormones 2018/10/11 15:54:45 (permalink)
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But M1T vs Superdrol - Superdrol wins every time for me.
 
I don't think I would run M1T again. Made me very tired as well. 
 

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Re: Prohormones 2018/10/11 16:10:47 (permalink)
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If you thought test made it soooo obvious you were on steroids then you're in for a treat with M1T.


lol, the effects anything like taking just d'bol?  I just don't want that bloated look.


It doesn't bloat you too much, just makes you muscles grow and your strength shoot up like nothing else you've ever used before.
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Re: Prohormones 2018/10/11 21:16:53 (permalink)
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But M1T vs Superdrol - Superdrol wins every time for me. 
 


M1T makes superdrol look like a little school girl!

Here’s a musical representation of M1T



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I don't think I would run M1T again. Made me very tired as well.


IMO i think lethargy on cycle is dose dependant not product specific. The more gear you run, the more out of homeostasis the body is , the more it fights to get back to its ‘normal’ = Tired. And as M1T is stronger then pretty much all bar Halotestin
post edited by ANIMAL - 2018/10/11 21:27:03
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Re: Prohormones 2018/10/11 22:11:54 (permalink)
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 M1T is pretty rough stuff. The only worse thing I've ever tried is metribolone. You don't want any of that.
 
Also just to point out, none of these drugs are actually prohormones. They're just anabolic steroids that happen to be sort of legal.
post edited by Uriel - 2018/10/11 22:16:37
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Re: Prohormones 2018/10/12 01:01:26 (permalink)
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They're just anabolic steroids that happen to be sort of legal.


I thought that was the reasoning behind prohormones?

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Re: Prohormones 2018/10/12 07:35:18 (permalink)
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But M1T vs Superdrol - Superdrol wins every time for me. 
 


M1T makes superdrol look like a little school girl!

Here’s a musical representation of M1T



Squill
I don't think I would run M1T again. Made me very tired as well.


IMO i think lethargy on cycle is dose dependant not product specific. The more gear you run, the more out of homeostasis the body is , the more it fights to get back to its ‘normal’ = Tired. And as M1T is stronger then pretty much all bar Halotestin



No doubt M1T is more potent, but I prefer a middle ground .
 
I distinctly remember being more tired on M1T than Sust / Tren cycles which were technically higher doses. 
 
But M1T was the first cycle I ever did, so maybe just perception.
 
Also, the musical representation made me laugh / is accurate.
 

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Re: Prohormones 2018/10/12 08:13:48 (permalink)☄ Helpfulby simonboyle 2018/10/17 10:20:02
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Uriel
They're just anabolic steroids that happen to be sort of legal.


I thought that was the reasoning behind prohormones?

Strictly speaking a prohormone is something that converts to a hormone in the body. Back in the late 90s/early 2000s you had (mostly American) companies released prohormones because of steroids being made illegal, there were prohormones to testosterone, nandrolone, etc. They weren't great because conversion was quite low (as little as like 5% so to get 100mg of testosterone a day you'd have to take two grams of the stuff).
 
But then they started releasing "designer steroids" as marketing them as the new "prohormones" which they are not, they are simply anabolic steroids that were obscure enough to not be on any government list of banned substances. You see only something like 20 or 30 synthetic anabolic steroids were ever actually researched for medical use, and less than a dozen were well known and commonly used as PEDs so the list of banned steroids back in the day wasn't very extensive (this is all in the US where they actually made possession of these drugs a crime), but back during the 40s and 50s researchers created hundreds of synthetic anabolic steroids so for years all the supplement companies had to do was look through the old research books and pick the "new" designer they wanted to produce.
 
Superdrol, M1T, epistane etc are anabolic steroids, no more or less so than dbol or anavar, they don't need to convert to anything they are the real thing. They were created over half a century ago but until relatively recently nobody had thought of mass producing and selling them.
post edited by Uriel - 2018/10/12 08:25:19
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