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2007/06/15 14:30:21 (permalink)
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Propionate problems

Hi guys , i've been having a problem when trying to use propionate ,and this is that it will draw up fine but the second i go to push the plunger on the syringe back up its really hard to move and jerks up instead of going up smoothy and also means that i'll have to keep pressure on the plunger otherwise it draws air straight back in once its at the top. This happens regardless of needle size or syringe brand and basicaly makes it very difficult to use , i've had this on two different brands too now one was rohm labs and the other body research , anyone got any ideas ?
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    RE: Propionate problems 2007/06/15 14:34:13 (permalink)
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    maybe its your needles ??


    i take it these are 10ml bottles??

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    RE: Propionate problems 2007/06/15 14:58:43 (permalink)
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    You've lost me here. Is this when the needle is still in the vial? If so then just pull it out and push out any air in the syringe.

    If the needle is not in the vial, and the syringe is pulling air in all by itself then i suggest you consult a priest regarding exorcisms
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    RE: Propionate problems 2007/06/15 15:12:21 (permalink)
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    No mate once the prop has been initially drawn up (the only time the plunger moves easily) and the needle removed from the vial or amp (romh is 10ml multi vial and body reasearch is amps) the plunger is basicaly seizing up inside the syringe and sticking making it hard to move and because its so hard to move when at the end of the barrel and trying to get the last bit of air out the rubber plunger is basicaly being compressed because of the sticking and this is causing air to be drawn back up as soon as i take pressure off the end of the plunger ,its not needle size either ive tried completely taking it off and the plunger is still just as hard to move
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    RE: Propionate problems 2007/06/15 15:19:32 (permalink)
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    I dont know anything about ROMH themselves but i know that this can happen when Ethyl Oleate is used as the carrier instead of your normal oil. If they use that then its a possibility. Especially with prop, Ethyl Oleate ebing used is more likely. Does the label tell you any info about the product?

    I dont quite understand what u mean tho about the rubber plunger being compressed? I assume the needle is point up at the ceiling yeah? And you are trying to push the plunger in to push the remaining air out. But i wont move.

    What size is the syringe?
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    RE: Propionate problems 2007/06/15 15:38:51 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the relpy V1nce ,it doesnt seem like the usual oils ive seen in that its very thin ,theres no info on either product regarding carrier oil type but ive only had this problem with these two brands and they both have this thin oil type , used apex and some russian prop with no probs apart from the fact the apex was extremely painful that is! , almost seems like the carrier oil is doing something to the rubber and making it stick to the inside of the syringe, regarding syringe types ive tried a couple of diff brands ect ranging between 2ml and 5ml , not sure really how to explain about the compressing but because of the force required to move the plunger its sticking on the outer edge but the middle of the plunger isnt, kind of distorting the plunger before it will initialy move and when this happens right at the end (syringe towards the ceiling) ,this motion is causing air to be pulled back in if that makes sense.
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    RE: Propionate problems 2007/06/15 16:07:25 (permalink)
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    Well the thin oil does definately sounds like Ethyl Oleate to me. It is a very common problem with homebrewers, its eats away at the plastic. All i can really think of suggesting is to get some sterile oil and the mix the prop with it in the syringe. It will ofcourse mean more volume of injections is required to get the same mg of test. Or if possible you could get some normal prop and do half and half.

    To be honest though i would have a word with your source about it as everyone must be having the same problems with it.
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    RE: Propionate problems 2007/06/15 16:09:56 (permalink)
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    Ok mate cheers for the help
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