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2008/05/18 15:51:20 (permalink)
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Proposed cycle check and first post

Afternoon, been around this site for the last couple of years and finally decieded to join and post, excellant advice given by some good members it will be a pleasure joining the site. I look forward to learning more myself and giving out as much help and infomation to other less experienced members. Anyway i have been training for about 15 years and have done several different styles of martial arts and more recently MMa. Now i want to concentrate more on my bodybuilding so if you could look at this proposed cycle and tell me where if any it needs to be altered.

Weeks 1 - 10 Test E 500mg/week
Weeks 1 - 4 Oral (i have Tbol 200x10mg tabs/Dbol only got 100 5mg tabs/Var 200x10mg tabs) also got Epi/Pp/Md2 not sure what to run?????
Weeks 1 - 10 Proviron 25mg/day

Ive got plenty of nolva on hand just in case.

Pct Nolva only

2 weeks after last jab

Day 1 60mg
Day 2 - 11 40mg
Day 12 - 21 20mg

My Stats are i'm nearly 34years young 6ft 3" and weigh 214lbs. Which oral do you think i should frontload with?

Thanks for taking the time.

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    RE: Proposed cycle check and first post 2008/05/18 15:55:32 (permalink)
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    Alright mate welcome to MT .....or at least welcome to posting on MT if you have been lurking for a while

    From my limited experience / knowledge I'd say kick start the cycle with the t-bol at 60 -80mg ed for 4 weeks. I would have said the d-bol but you dont have enough.
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    RE: Proposed cycle check and first post 2008/05/18 15:55:56 (permalink)
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    hi mate and welcome to the board

    is this your first cycle?
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    RE: Proposed cycle check and first post 2008/05/18 15:59:36 (permalink)
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    everything seems spot on mate but id def kickstart with the dbol and save the other orals for a later cycle

    i used to have a handle on life but it broke
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    RE: Proposed cycle check and first post 2008/05/18 16:04:22 (permalink)
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    Welcome to MT, and welcome to posting on MT

    looks sound mate. as a frontload tbol is a bit weak but good nonetheless. dbol would be my chice but, its been said, u dont have quite enough. I like the prov thrown in, it may seem cautios to some but still, gets my thumbs up.

    You could do the standard frontload with 1g test for the first week if u like.

    PCT is fine, well researched.


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    RE: Proposed cycle check and first post 2008/05/18 16:04:32 (permalink)
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    but id def kickstart with the dbol and save the other orals for a later cycle


    How would you do it though with only 100x5mg tabs ?
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    RE: Proposed cycle check and first post 2008/05/18 16:24:42 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the welcomes and the help fella's. Unfortunatley for now thats all the Dbol i can get and i am due to start in the morning. Johnnyp its my first properly researched cycle lol messed about with meds when i was a lot younger and didn't know any better so i guess you could call this one my first cycle. Are any of the Prohornes i've got like Phera Vol wich is the same compound as Phera Plex any stronger than the Tbol i know its a wet med like Dbol not sure on peoples feelings for Otc meds.

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    RE: Proposed cycle check and first post 2008/05/18 18:14:52 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: PAGAN

    Alright mate welcome to MT .....or at least welcome to posting on MT if you have been lurking for a while

    From my limited experience / knowledge I'd say kick start the cycle with the t-bol at 60 -80mg ed for 4 weeks. I would have said the d-bol but you dont have enough.


    I'd go with that too. You could use the dbol as a tail-end to the cycle after the last test e jab to bring you up to PCT if you so wished.
    post edited by erekose - 2008/05/18 18:15:27
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    RE: Proposed cycle check and first post 2008/05/18 18:48:37 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: erekose

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    Alright mate welcome to MT .....or at least welcome to posting on MT if you have been lurking for a while

    From my limited experience / knowledge I'd say kick start the cycle with the t-bol at 60 -80mg ed for 4 weeks. I would have said the d-bol but you dont have enough.


    I'd go with that too. You could use the dbol as a tail-end to the cycle after the last test e jab to bring you up to PCT if you so wished.


    Is it common to use dbol towards the end opposed to the start?

    Think i might do that for a 2nd cycle, do a frontload of test at the begginning and finish of with dbol at the end.

    So for example you would do

    Week 1 Test E 1000mg
    Weeks 2 -10 Test E 500mg pw
    Weeks 10 - 13 dbol?
    Weks 13-16 PCT

    Or have i got a little confused.
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    RE: Proposed cycle check and first post 2008/05/18 18:51:17 (permalink)
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    Cheers but would the gains of 15mg/week Dbol be comparable to 60-80mg of Tbol or will the Tbol still be the best option to go with.

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    RE: Proposed cycle check and first post 2008/05/18 18:56:34 (permalink)
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    Is it common to use dbol towards the end opposed to the start?


    Relatively so, although most like to use orals at the start there's no reason that they can't be used to fill up the space between last jab and start of PCT.

    There's nothing wrong with your example cycle above, but I was thinking specifically of using it for the two weeks gap between jab & PCT, as that's how much dbol you have available (16 days).

    Tbol @ 60-80 would be the better choice imo. Remember that you've also got the test in your system too so the tbol's only there to add a bit extra in the first couple of weeks or so.
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    RE: Proposed cycle check and first post 2008/05/18 19:06:45 (permalink)
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    Just re read your post mate and i think it would be a good idea running the Dbol for 2 weeks after the Test imo. Something i've not heard before.

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    RE: Proposed cycle check and first post 2008/05/18 23:35:34 (permalink)
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    heres what i would do mate

    weeks 1-10 500mg test e pw
    weeks 1-4 70mg tbol pd

    pct as you have outlined in your first post

    25mg proviron pd did nothin for me, although i guess it cant do no harm

    all the best
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    RE: Proposed cycle check and first post 2008/05/19 08:29:48 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: johnnyp

    heres what i would do mate

    weeks 1-10 500mg test e pw
    weeks 1-4 70mg tbol pd

    pct as you have outlined in your first post

    25mg proviron pd did nothin for me, although i guess it cant do no harm

    all the best


    Looks good to me
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    RE: Proposed cycle check and first post 2008/05/21 23:53:11 (permalink)
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    What about running the Var @ week 8 for 4 weeks until Pct @ 50mg/day would that not help tighten the physique.
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