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2006/07/19 16:44:31 (permalink)
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Protein mix

ciao, ive been downing a couple of proteins a day, the last one at night i tend to take with a 1/2 BANANA and o.1% fat milk....the other, used as a meal replacement i just down it with water.

Ive read somewhere that taking proteins is better with some carbs, even minimal, so my question is would the protein mix with the low fat milk be more receptive to my muscles than the water mix. Im trying to cut calories but would prefer to cut them somewhere else, the mix with water is real bad.

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    RE: Protein mix 2006/07/19 16:49:08 (permalink)
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    Maybe you can try a different brand or flavour?

    If you can't have it in water then in milk is ok. Or you can just opt for a different sources of protein.

    Are you asking for just PWO (post workout) or at another time during the day?

    If you're cutting then I'd advise you to not add a source of simple carbs (like the popular dextrose) PWO.. unless perhaps you train quite close to your bedtime or have a certain type of lifestyle that will allow it to fit in.

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    RE: Protein mix 2006/07/19 17:02:13 (permalink)
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    Thanks Babe, are you in italy? thats where i am.

    anyway, im not getting home from the gym till about 930pm, so im just doing evening workouts...when i get back i have about 30g of protein mix/no fat milk/banana and then about an hour after that a tuna sald (lettuce, boiled egg, green beans, tomato)...when i get up in the morning im alreay hungry so cuting that last meal out, even though its only an hour off bedtime is not gonna be a good thing, so it has to stay.

    breakfast 5 white egg om with vegies (onions, pepper)
    The protein mix in the day, is the water based one, and i just use it as a meal replacement (try to eat 5 x daily)
    A whole grain pasta tuna and or chicken, depending on hunger.
    Pre workout...chicken, beans, tomato
    post workout protein mix (banana, milk)
    late evening meal (as above)

    that makes 6 meals, not 5 and yes im cutting....
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    RE: Protein mix 2006/07/19 17:04:42 (permalink)
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    forgot to add

    usually a bolied potato (small) thrown in with the salad late at night
    and bits of fruit during the day (thinking about stopping the fruit tho, at least temp?)
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    RE: Protein mix 2006/07/19 18:00:06 (permalink)
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    Ma sei un vero italiano o vieni da un'altra parte?

    I'm not in Italy right now I'll be moving to the UK next week!

    And no no no, do not stop eating fruit! Fruit provides you with a number of beneficial things so you definately do not have to cut it out... I'd probably only consider doing that in some sort of pre-contest diet.

    So now.. when you finish training - you don't have anything at all until you get back home? How much time passes between the two?

    It's ok to eat close to bedtime, espeically if you've trained not long before that. So don't worry about not being able to cut it out or not.

    You only have one boiled egg and some veg in that last meal before bed? Is that it?

    Why do you cut out all the yolks from the omelette in the morning?

    I'd rather have the water based mrp pwo and the milk one during the day. But then again, I'd rather have a solid food meal over an mrp during the day, especially if on a cut.
    What's in the meal replacement powder?

    Sounds like you're gauging your food intake on hunger. That's a bit of a no no. Sometimes you may actually mistake 'hunger' for thirst. So you may actually just really need to drink more water rather than more food. Hunger can also be a bit of a mental thing. It doesn't necessarily indicate what or how much you need to eat.

    You can try including a source like oats in the morning.. see how that works on filling you up. Fibrous veg and sources of fat will also help with hunger. You can do with more fibrous veg and definately do with some more fat in the diet.

    Fat sources can include: oily fish, flax seed (ground up), flax seed oil, Udo's oil, olive oil, nuts and seeds, nut oils, nut butters, avocado, etc. etc.


    You don't have much carbs before your training either.. try to have more of your carbs around your training and upon waking IMO.

    What are your stats?

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    RE: Protein mix 2006/07/19 18:20:54 (permalink)
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    no, non sono un vero italiano, per fortuna, ma vivo qui da 5 anni, dai, troppo.......sherzo!

    im not an out and out bb but more into fitness, due to some bad injuries thru running, the main one is a constanly bad ankle, im doing more in the gym and getting to like it, have to admit though that this protein is a bit expensive on the resources, but i can tell the difference between not taking the powder and taking it. I agree with you about a real meal as opposed to a replacement, but i cant eat that much chicken, turkey, salmon, eggs...boy the protein makes it one hell of a lot easier...

    i know the yolks contain nearly 1/2 the protein again but they also contain the cholesterol and fats...if i crack the eggs and some yolk gets in i leave it there,

    you think a couple of eggs for the late evening meal?

    im out of the gym and home in 30 mins so the protein is going down pretty much straight after the workout, no probs there. The pwo shake is with the banana because i love the taste...i agree it would be better to swap them round, maybe i will, maybe i should...

    that last meal...tuna, maybe a piece of chicken, a small boiled potato, and some greens lettuce tomato...

    as far as water im drinking around 3 liters a day, maybe a touch more with the summer heat, winter is 3 litres.

    where do you get oats in italy?????
    Been to my IperMercato and they dont have them, looks like a speciality shop or something, and what are they called in italian...????

    yeah im eating nuts, not the good ones though...olive oil i have 1/2 a tsp a meal, never use salt so my food is a bit bland so the extra virgin helps taste it up a bit....

    uk here you come eh? into civilisation you go and out of the pre historic age!! Just fooling.

    my main sport is hanggliding so im trying to cut up a bit to get a diff rated glider, need to be under the 78kg mark to be comfortablt on the glider, its max pilot weight is 80, so 78 lo fat should do nicely.

    my stats, im currently around the 82kg mark (81.5) and got the abs poking thru so some where around 14% body fat but thats just a guess.
    have always, because i used to do a lot of running, do light weights big reps, now changed it round to hi weights big reps, put some weight on, muscle weight, but wasnt being too careful with the diet, planning on staying on the hi w low reps and seeing fat weight come off quicker than muscle going on, if that makes sense???...hopefully.
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    RE: Protein mix 2006/07/20 04:39:05 (permalink)
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    lol - ma dove habiti, in quale regione/citta?

    Oats in Italian is 'avena'.. just like in spanish.. and similar to french - avoine. Maybe you can get the new Oatibix there.. it's like Wheatabix - but made with oats..

    Peanut butter is another that's usually hard to find lol - so me, I just stick with Nutella

    I don't know how much the whey protein costs over there, are you getting it in shops or online in bulk? Have you checked how much it costs to send over in bulk from one of the suppliers in the UK?
    Still, if it's too much, you don't really have to have whey. It's only really for convenience.. Heh.. with all the good food in Italy - I'd never touch whey lol.

    Have you always been eating this much food? Or are you just starting to eat more so you're still not used to it?
    Could also just be the heat right now, can make you have a lot less of an appetite.

    The cholesterol in the yolk is no problem really unless maybe you've already got cholesterol problems. Dietary cholesterol has little effect on blood lipid levels.

    The yolk is basically the nutritious part of the egg and contains the 4 fat soluble vitamins.. and minerals...
    Yes they're dense in calories because of the fat, so if you're going to have quite a few eggs then leaving out a few of them is understandable. But you don't necessarily have to avoid them completely. If you only want the whites and rather not waste half the egg by cutting out the yolks.. then you can always buy liquid egg whites. You can get them in the UK online and in bulk, but I'm not sure about over there in Italy.

    Right, well a whole egg has about 7g of protein on average. You should be spreading out your protein intake evenly throughout the day so that you have a balance of meals in general. If you're having about 30g of protein per meal, on average (for example), then that last meal falls short on the protein with just bringing 7g. Know what I mean?

    What do you mean when you say you're not eating the good nuts? You're eating the ones covered in sugar or chocolate or candy or something?

    OK, olive oil is good.. but you need sources of n-3 fatty acids as well. You can get that from oily fish and flax seeds easily. Flaxseeds/linseeds should be readily available.. you just need to grind them up and sprinkle them in whatever you want or just have them with the spoon and wash it down with water. It has a nutty flavour to them and it's a very good source of the fats and fibre as well. Or you can always get the flax seed oil - and get it down in a shake or with a little bit of orange juice.... unless you like the taste.. then you can have it off the spoon lol.

    Use vegetables and spices and so on to flavour things up.. a little salt here and there is ok. Moderation is the key.

    Yeah, heavy weight low rep is good for mass lol. The more lean muscle tissue you gain then the more calories you burn and in turn more fat you can lose. So yes all that makes sense lol.


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