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2015/01/16 02:40:41 (permalink)
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Quite alarmed by a recent visit to the docs

I know strong first post but I have been lurking on here for months researching my first real aas cycle.
Anyways I went to the docs recently and had blood taking ( just a random check up ) so I went back to get my normal prescription and the doc said everything is ok but my liver lipids were off. It was two, my 5 alpha enzyme and another I can't remember It tho :/ but when I asked more she seemed pretty confused herself, my gf said she looked very anxious reading her computer and couldn't give me a proper answer just basically said there's still tests to be completed and to come back in a month. This left me messed up and googled 5 alpha liver enzyme and it came up about how it's job is to convert test to dht in the liver. Can anyone shed any light on this? I have a good source for stuff and I was hopeing to start the juice but now I'm pretty scared.

My general health is fine, I don't drink but I smoke. Weights and boxing every week I'm 26 and have ran 2 epi / stanz cycles in the past ( 2 years ago ) no problems with them, libido was through the roof and never felt **** even in pct and afterwards. Both cycles were dosed max 30 - 40mg epi stanz 300-400mg done a full nolva pct with all the other support sups and ran on cycle support aswell. Could this of been the factor? Wouldn't my body of recovered in 2 years?

I hope someone can enlighten me.
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    chris182
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    Re: 2015/01/16 08:44:48 (permalink)
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    I was tested once while staying in a not very nice hotel with very big metal doors and gates, I can't remember exactly what it was but my liver results were sky high despite not drinking for months.
    I took the vitamins they gave me and re tested a month later and all was fine.

    Are you on any medication at all?

    I've not had my bloods taken in a long time almost like what I don't know won't hurt me, I don't drink at all now I don't drink or smoke so I'm hoping all is OK.

    You need to quit smoking or eventually you'll be told some horrible news that you possibly won't be able to do anything about until it's to late.

    I'd be more concerned about my lungs than my liver if I'm honest
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    Re: 2015/01/16 22:10:02 (permalink)
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    The enzymes in a routine liver function test will be:
    Alkaline phosphatase
    ALT (alanine aminotransferase
    Possibly gamma GT
    maybe AST (aspartate aminotranferase)
    LDH (lactacte dehydrogenase) if your GP or lab is very oldfashioned.

    I think you got the name of the enzyme wrong.
    Liver lipids is also an unusual and possibly meaningless phrase.
    I think you misremembered that as well.
    Go back to your GP and find out.
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    Re: 2015/01/17 03:34:40 (permalink)
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    As above for a hepatic function test ALT and AST are the enzymes looked at. This is specifically designed for testing function. If these are elevated that means the liver is under stress. Usually this comes from drinking, medication, or a virus such as hepatitis. If you can provide more info or scan a copy of the results might be able to help you better.
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    Re: 2015/01/17 12:35:29 (permalink)
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    As above for a hepatic function test ALT and AST are the enzymes looked at. This is specifically designed for testing function. If these are elevated that means the liver is under stress. Usually this comes from drinking, medication, or a virus such as hepatitis. If you can provide more info or scan a copy of the results might be able to help you better.
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    AST as a liver functyion test is rare in the UK. My lab did around 1,800 ALTs per day and about 30 ASTs.
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    Re: 2015/01/17 14:12:47 (permalink)
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    Standard in the States.
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    Re: 2015/01/17 14:29:42 (permalink)
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    The only medication I'm on is propananol diazepam (anxiety) and omeprazole. Me and my gf are 100% she said 5 alpha enzyme but not sure of the other. Yep I'm gonna go back this week. Can I just ask for a scan of it? Never requested blood work done or anything.

    I used to drink years ago binges like everyone else but no hospital visits or anything. Don't drink anymore because I just hate how it drains me the next day or 2 and messing with gains. I smoke weed prolly 8 joints a day with 5 cigs in em so I really don't think that's that bad. My weeds not sprayed or contaminated it's homegrown from a friend so its cleaner than street.

    So if there's already stress on my liver then any aas is out of the question right?
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    Re: 2015/01/17 14:37:49 (permalink)
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    If the doctor was that concerned they'd have told you, I wouldn't worry but that's me - my liver probably isn't perfect after a few years of alcohol abuse but I feel fine and I haven't turned yellow yet.

    Just keep off the oral steroids, get some liv52
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    Re: 2015/01/18 12:24:56 (permalink)
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    Just ask the GP to go over the last results and explain what was abnormal. They may or may not let you see the results but they will be on the computer screen so you might be able to see them anyway. There is more than one system used by GPs to view results but there is a good chance that abnormal resuts will be highlighted or have a red symbol after the numeric result.
    I'm fairly sure your 5 alpha enzyme is actually alkaline phosphatase.
    post edited by Al - 2015/01/18 12:28:11
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    Re: 2015/01/22 15:10:22 (permalink)
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    Ok guys so I was 100% wrong in everything I said. I went back and asked more and she said my body is low in a protein called alpha 1 antitrypsin which she said is probably genetic it's not desperately low but it's low.

    I think I will take your advice @chris182 to stop smoking as it can lead to lung problems to emphysema and my doctor has seen 35 year olds with it! Also the liver can be heavily damaged to cirrhosis. It attacks the lungs a lot more than the liver in her opinion. She says I'm young enough to not let it affect me as Its not 'alarming', but I need to get blood taken every 6 months to monitor it.

    I was planning a 3rd cycle with the old cel mdrol a few years ago but never went threw with it as my training/dieting fell off so I gave it to a friend. Woo that could of been a really nasty time. I know orals are out but what about injecting or even TD of trest there sure to raise levels in my liver?

    The other tests were for hepatitis which came back negative she said those are standard tests.
    post edited by D/ROCK - 2015/01/22 15:16:27
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