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Realistically, hiow mcuh can I lose cutting hard for 6 weeks?

Right, I started to cut about 2 months ago. I underestimated the amount I had to lose and was dissapointed with results to start with, but after a month things started happening so I was quite happy (although still looked sh1te lol)

Anyway last 2-3 weeks I have barely done any cardio and have only been doing 3 x weights EW and no boxing (usually 3 x ew) as I have a lot of exams on with uni and have to spend most my time in the library at the mo. This will be finished in the middle of next week, so then I plan to resume my cut

I then have 6 weeks before hols and want to cut very hard before I go. I havent cut before, and so dont know what can realistically be done in 6 weeks (bear in mind I have shifted some of the crap off already from dieting for a few weeks)

I will be using test/tren/masteron, t3,t5 and clen (and DNP if I look crap 10 days b4 hols!!)

But if I cannot really acheive much in 6 weeks, and will just look flat like people talk about mid diet, then I am half tempted just to not bother and get bigger & fuller for hols

What do people think?
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    theiopener
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    RE: Realistically, hiow mcuh can I lose cutting hard for 6 weeks? 2008/05/20 21:14:43 (permalink)
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    the only reason youll look flat mate is due to low carbs, easily rectified by a carbup prior to hols

    6 weeks, if you got everything nailed and go all out, a stone of fat loss wouldnt be impossible

    depends on what ya look like now too

    t5 is eca, and clen compared to T3, well you know its no contest right
    post edited by theiopener - 2008/05/20 21:15:34
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    RE: Realistically, hiow mcuh can I lose cutting hard for 6 weeks? 2008/05/20 21:15:55 (permalink)
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    You'd be crazy to use DNP on your first cut IMO.

    Crank up your cardio to every non-weights day and then post-weights and keep your intake reasonable along with whatever gear dosages you're running and you could see a good change IMO - use the last few days before your holiday to carb up too perhaps.
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    RE: Realistically, hiow mcuh can I lose cutting hard for 6 weeks? 2008/05/20 21:16:23 (permalink)
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    6 weeks you can make good gains. You won't be ripped to shreds mind you. With the gear I think you can have a lower calorie deficit and not be as cataobolic. Cardio 5 times a week 60 minutes, scale back the food a little and increase the intensity in the gym. Good luck for it.
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    RE: Realistically, hiow mcuh can I lose cutting hard for 6 weeks? 2008/05/20 21:22:07 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: theiopener

    the only reason youll look flat mate is due to low carbs, easily rectified by a carbup prior to hols

    6 weeks, if you got everything nailed and go all out, a stone of fat loss wouldnt be impossible

    depends on what ya look like now too

    t5 is eca, and clen compared to T3, well you know its no contest right


    I dont get what u mean there m8?
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    RE: Realistically, hiow mcuh can I lose cutting hard for 6 weeks? 2008/05/20 21:26:37 (permalink)
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    T3 is far more effective at stripping weight than clen and T5 (t5 is eca)

    T3 dosages i would get checked in TAOS as it can get quite catabolic even with anabolic support

    you could do a low carb low fat high protei approach 6 days a week then carbup one day aweek

    how lean are you now mate? whats current routine look like? youre gonna need to do steady state cardio a lot and may need to drop boxing if youre up for it
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    RE: Realistically, hiow mcuh can I lose cutting hard for 6 weeks? 2008/05/20 21:32:44 (permalink)
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    No offence TIO but Ive forgetten more than you know about PED's lol

    No chance of droppping the boxing tho. Currently do Boxing M/W/F, weights Tu/Th/Sat and sometimes do an extra weights session. I;d say I am about as lean as the piccy in ur current avatar, altho probably slightly more fat on lower abs and less so on my chest. Currently 95kg (ish! fluctuates a lot TBH between 92 and 98) and 5"11

    Maybe do 40 mins (longer?) SSCV unfuelled in the morning every day? Maybe some evening sessions as well?

    I am worried about catabolism and tiredness doing low carbs on days I box tho
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    RE: Realistically, hiow mcuh can I lose cutting hard for 6 weeks? 2008/05/20 21:37:20 (permalink)
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    Im around 15% in my avatar mate so 11-12% should be attainable for you which means cut but not ripped

    understood on PED's

    60 Mins SSCV would be my weapon of choice for now in the mornings. that and after weight do 30 mins

    diet is gonna be tricky to manipulate as you have a lot of high intensity output. Better be using those t5's then for a pick me up

    you can see where youre at with DNP two weeks out but i dont think you wanna be boxing while on DNP somehow

    up the cardio for now and see where you are in two weeks
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    RE: Realistically, hiow mcuh can I lose cutting hard for 6 weeks? 2008/05/20 21:48:00 (permalink)
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    Right so 1hr SSCV first thing ED, then 30 mins after weights (this might be tricky as weights sessions are usually pretty rushed due to training partners work commitments - so may go up and do 30-60 mins late in the evening instead) Basically as much SSCV as humaly possible then! lol.

    I think that I may be holding more fat than you are in your avvy TBH, probs 16-18% for me, but if I could get to 12% that would be OK as I have a decent amount of LBM as should look fairly gd (in a general rather than bodybuilding terms lol). I hold all my fat on my lower belly, my back, delts etc are all pretty lean, shoulders are vascular etc, but its alll on my gut

    I will probs use the t5's before boxing although dont want to use them when I am using clen as well or I will end up with a trip to the cardiac dept of the hopsital lol. I am more concerned about going catabolic than energy for boxing I suppose, as you can force yourself thru even when tired, just it is SUCH high intensity cardio, I feel if I didnt have some decent carbs in me I would waste away

    I dunno lol, wish I had stuck to BB;ing instead of boxing too sometimes, makes it so much harder doing both lol. Guess I want BB'er aesthetics with a boxers functionality (which is going to be very hard if not impossible)
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    RE: Realistically, hiow mcuh can I lose cutting hard for 6 weeks? 2008/05/20 21:51:43 (permalink)
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    with all that gear id be surprised if you lose any noticeable lean tissue mate.

    youll more than likely feel like sh1te for a few weeks but to be expected when doing a extreme cut of this nature

    besides any muscle lost can and will easily come back after you resume normal eating again, come on this is for holidays look the best you can be, a few lbs of lost muscle along the way will be ok (at worst this is what will happen).

    im not worried about muscle loss at all and im eating 4 times a day with nonexistant carbs, 60 mins of sscv per day and i dont have any anabolic support being run, i feel and look like crap but i aint losing lean tissue, just deflated atm which is fixed by my weekly carb hits
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    RE: Realistically, hiow mcuh can I lose cutting hard for 6 weeks? 2008/05/20 21:56:21 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: theiopener

    with all that gear id be surprised if you lose any noticeable lean tissue mate.

    youll more than likely feel like sh1te for a few weeks but to be expected when doing a extreme cut of this nature

    besides any muscle lost can and will easily come back after you resume normal eating again, come on this is for holidays look the best you can be, a few lbs of lost muscle along the way will be ok (at worst this is what will happen).

    im not worried about muscle loss at all and im eating 4 times a day with nonexistant carbs, 60 mins of sscv per day and i dont have any anabolic support being run, i feel and look like crap but i aint losing lean tissue, just deflated atm which is fixed by my weekly carb hits


    Yeah thats a good point, I am usuing the diet as a tool for putting some good lean mass on anyway as I am going to use the rebound effect from it to its fullest (think 2g+ test for 8 weeks with GH and a few other things hahaha)

    I will give it a go then and see where we get. I have taken b4 pics but they look fcuking awful and dont do me justice (well maybe they do and I just think I look better than I actually do lol) but I will post them up when I have after pics
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    RE: Realistically, hiow mcuh can I lose cutting hard for 6 weeks? 2008/05/20 21:57:35 (permalink)
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    <----- fluorescent lighting works wonders IME
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    RE: Realistically, hiow mcuh can I lose cutting hard for 6 weeks? 2008/05/20 22:03:42 (permalink)
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    LOL
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    RE: Realistically, hiow mcuh can I lose cutting hard for 6 weeks? 2008/05/21 07:58:12 (permalink)
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    Dont worry about losing muscle with the gear imo mate, just make sure you have complex carbs/ fat & pro before your boxing mate. Should be good to go imo!

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    RE: Realistically, hiow mcuh can I lose cutting hard for 6 weeks? 2008/05/21 09:17:21 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: theiopener

    T3 is far more effective at stripping weight than clen and T5 (t5 is eca)

    T3 dosages i would get checked in TAOS as it can get quite catabolic even with anabolic support

    you could do a low carb low fat high protei approach 6 days a week then carbup one day aweek

    how lean are you now mate? whats current routine look like? youre gonna need to do steady state cardio a lot and may need to drop boxing if youre up for it

    T3 dosages i would get checked in TAOS as it can get quite catabolic even with anabolic support


    In layman's terms what does this mean?

    Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar, and fat.
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    RE: Realistically, hiow mcuh can I lose cutting hard for 6 weeks? 2008/05/21 09:23:30 (permalink)
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    In layman's terms what does this mean?

    you can lose lots of muscle even with steroids
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    RE: Realistically, hiow mcuh can I lose cutting hard for 6 weeks? 2008/05/21 09:56:37 (permalink)
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    What would you suggest as a good anabolic support with T3?

    Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar, and fat.
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    RE: Realistically, hiow mcuh can I lose cutting hard for 6 weeks? 2008/05/21 10:20:25 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: cleverclogs
    What would you suggest as a good anabolic support with T3?

    I am the wrong person to ask and this is the wrong forum to ask it in as well

    Go to the gear forums and ask
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    RE: Realistically, hiow mcuh can I lose cutting hard for 6 weeks? 2008/05/21 10:56:29 (permalink)
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    YGM Yiddo.
    Run this diet 2 -3 weeks before you go away. Should give you that extra kick you need.
    I havent done it yet, but planning on doing so in a few months.
    post edited by gwilym - 2008/05/21 10:57:52
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    RE: Realistically, hiow mcuh can I lose cutting hard for 6 weeks? 2008/05/21 10:58:27 (permalink)
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    ORIGINAL: gwilym
    YGM Yiddo.
    Run this diet 2 -3 weeks before you go away. Should give you that extra kick you need.
    I havent done it yet, but planning on doing so in a few months.

    PSMF is NOT suitable for yiddo if hes doing boxing mate if thats the book youre on about
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