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Rear Left molar - Root Canal or Extraction? [Require Advice(s)]

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2011/03/16 14:55:37 (permalink)

Rear Left molar - Root Canal or Extraction? [Require Advice(s)]

My rear left molar (2nd last on bottom row) is shagged.
 
I have a choice of Root Canal, then Crown 6 months later (€650, then another €650)
or
Extraction (covered by Health insurance).
 
I don't particularly care about the cosmetic side of things, it's far back anyway.
 
Should it stay or should it go?
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    Re:Rear Left molar - Root Canal or Extraction? [Require Advice(s)] 2011/03/16 15:05:42 (permalink)
    Fix it mate. Never extract teeth unless its your last resort.
    I did the same thing and had one extracted and then after a while I noticed that my teeth were starting to move about and miss align and you seem to loose strngth in them
     
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    Re:Rear Left molar - Root Canal or Extraction? [Require Advice(s)] 2011/03/16 15:10:17 (permalink)
    I say get rid of it.  Like you say has no cosmetic qualities as it's way back there so why spend a load of cash on it?  It'll probably be shagged agin in a couple more years and you'll have to shell out some more. 
     
    I had the tooth just before that one removed last year.  I've never been too good with Dentists or pain but I went to the dental hospital to have it done and it was removed by two trainee's.  They couldn't figure out how to turn the light on to start, they injected my gum three times because they decided the plunger wasn't moving (it was, it's just there's not a lot of space to fill) and at one point I was holding the suction whilst they were messing about with it.  The overseeing bloke who wasn't really paying much attention came running over and told them it wasn't good practise to get the patient involved in the procedure in such a way.  After 10 minutes of bodging it about the guy said "well done girls, you've learnt enough and had a go with some new tools.  I'll take it from here".  He then removed the tooth in about 2 seconds.  I think the trauma of that ordeal cured any phobia I might have had, it didn't hurt one bit and I feel much better now the tooth isn't there.

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    Re:Rear Left molar - Root Canal or Extraction? [Require Advice(s)] 2011/03/16 15:15:55 (permalink)
    Keep it - I feel right scummy with my missing teeth.  £1k a tooth...
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    Re:Rear Left molar - Root Canal or Extraction? [Require Advice(s)] 2011/03/16 15:28:00 (permalink)
    I had a molar removed 2 weeks ago - rear, 2nd left, bottom row. It had an infection from a previous root canal and I had two options - treatment or removal. Treatment = >£1,000. Removal = £NHS (so not a lot)
     
    Removal was the obvious option. It hurt like **** afterwards (during the removal it wasn't too bad) but everything's as it should be now and I'm sure I took the right option.
     
    I can think of no good reason to pay so much money for what is essentially a cosmetic bit of treatment.
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    Re:Rear Left molar - Root Canal or Extraction? [Require Advice(s)] 2011/03/16 15:44:55 (permalink)
    big question is what is it like for eating ?

     
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    Re:Rear Left molar - Root Canal or Extraction? [Require Advice(s)] 2011/03/16 15:48:34 (permalink)
    I don't notice it at all when eating.  I also didn't have any pain what so ever after having it removed.  Once you get over the prodding it with your tongue stage you don't know any different.

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    Re:Rear Left molar - Root Canal or Extraction? [Require Advice(s)] 2011/03/16 16:00:13 (permalink)
    It's looking like pulling it is winning at the moment anyway.
     
    Does anyone have an implant?
    I could always go to Eastern Europe and get an implant for about €400 over there (compared to €3k) if it came to that.
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    Re:Rear Left molar - Root Canal or Extraction? [Require Advice(s)] 2011/03/16 16:21:02 (permalink)
    I don't but I want.  I need 2 (I had 2 pulled side by side - the denist wrecked my 2nd tooth) so am looking at £2k for both
     
    If I could get it done for 800 euro's (so about £700?!) then i'd be there in a shot!
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    Re:Rear Left molar - Root Canal or Extraction? [Require Advice(s)] 2011/03/16 16:23:51 (permalink)
    Ant is correct here - NEVER remove a tooth unless you have to. Other teeth then have to take the load, your bone loses strenght, teeth start to move, more problems ensue, etc. Seriously, last resort for truly buggered teeth.
     
    Implants from abroad are fine - so long as they don't cause issue - UK dentists will likely snub you, so you'll have to go back if you get complications.
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    Re:Rear Left molar - Root Canal or Extraction? [Require Advice(s)] 2011/03/16 16:52:55 (permalink)
    I had problems with exactly the same tooth last year. The dentist gave me the same options, take it out or root canal, as it was not one that was visable I decided to have it taken out, my decision was also influenced by them saying it was a much easier procedure than a root canal and would take half an hour.
     
    I went in for the 'easy' procedure, 3 hours and three different dentists of increasing size later they finally managed to get it out. It turns out I have very strong roots so they basically had to break the tooth into bits to get it out, even after they took it out it took months for some bits of tooth to work themselves out of the gum where the tooth was.
     
    Next time I'm asked I will have a root canal.
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    Re:Rear Left molar - Root Canal or Extraction? [Require Advice(s)] 2011/03/16 17:41:13 (permalink)
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    I went in for the 'easy' procedure, 3 hours and three different dentists of increasing size later they finally managed to get it out. It turns out I have very strong roots so they basically had to break the tooth into bits to get it out, even after they took it out it took months for some bits of tooth to work themselves out of the gum where the tooth was.

    Same here. The poor little eastern european dentist had to keep stopping for breaks to stretch and mop her brow she was working so hard. Chunks of teeth had to be broken out and she'd periodically attack the remaining lump with some forceps, realise it wasn't going anyway then break some more bits.
     
    The tray her tools were on looked like a scene from Hostel™ by the time she'd finished - all these sharp, pointy metal tools covered in blood with pieces of teeth all round them
     
    (Don't let this put you off though Danny Boy)
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    Re:Rear Left molar - Root Canal or Extraction? [Require Advice(s)] 2011/03/16 18:23:22 (permalink)
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    I went in for the 'easy' procedure, 3 hours and three different dentists of increasing size later they finally managed to get it out. It turns out I have very strong roots so they basically had to break the tooth into bits to get it out, even after they took it out it took months for some bits of tooth to work themselves out of the gum where the tooth was.

    Same here. The poor little eastern european dentist had to keep stopping for breaks to stretch and mop her brow she was working so hard. Chunks of teeth had to be broken out and she'd periodically attack the remaining lump with some forceps, realise it wasn't going anyway then break some more bits.

    The tray her tools were on looked like a scene from Hostel™ by the time she'd finished - all these sharp, pointy metal tools covered in blood with pieces of teeth all round them

    (Don't let this put you off though Danny Boy)


    not the only one then, i had the first of the big ones on the bottow row removed and it did the same, the roots were curved and as he pulled it the tooth it snapped in two, basically left a table, as in the roots and a thin flat piece of the tooth, so they broke it and had to dig around it and pull out each part of the root individually, hurt like hell afterwards as the gums etc had taken a right battering but had to be done to get it out once they had started.
     
    not sure about the figures quoted here, I got a root canal done then it was crowned last year and think it was only around £300 for the lot

     
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    Re:Rear Left molar - Root Canal or Extraction? [Require Advice(s)] 2011/03/16 18:59:22 (permalink)
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    I don't but I want.  I need 2 (I had 2 pulled side by side - the denist wrecked my 2nd tooth) so am looking at £2k for both

    If I could get it done for 800 euro's (so about £700?!) then i'd be there in a shot!

     
    You can - there is some quality clinic in Prague run by a lady who is either Irish or married to an Irishman and this place is well regarded. Including flights and a few nights in a modest but comfy hotel it was still a good bit cheaper than Ireland which btw is pricier than the UK from what I've been told.
     
    Dan may know more about the lady in prague.
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    Re:Rear Left molar - Root Canal or Extraction? [Require Advice(s)] 2011/03/16 19:11:05 (permalink)
    Wow - links anyone?
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    Re:Rear Left molar - Root Canal or Extraction? [Require Advice(s)] 2011/03/16 22:28:39 (permalink)
    i do this sorta thing in work, and i know from a lot of dentists opinions that crowning a rear molar doesnt always work long term so its a lot of money to gamble on a tooth that may have to come out anyway.
     
    question is can you afford to have the work done?
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    Re:Rear Left molar - Root Canal or Extraction? [Require Advice(s)] 2011/03/16 22:57:42 (permalink)
    I go the same tooth out last year. Was considering the root canal and crown untill my sister told me she had paid for a root canal and then when she went back for the crown her tooth collasped so she had to get it extracted anyways.
    Also told me it was very painful getting the root canal.
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    Re:Rear Left molar - Root Canal or Extraction? [Require Advice(s)] 2011/03/17 19:09:19 (permalink)
    Thanks for input folks.
    Probably going to just get it pulled I'd say.
     
    BTW, until recently I used to have fairly good teeth.
    I never gave much consideration to my teeth in the past, priority has always been diet, teeth were an afterthought.
    But a BB diet and healthy teeth do not (seem to) go hand in hand, based on what I've had explained to me.
     
    Also - effervescent drinks and diet soda - only at meal times according to the dentist. 
    I had assumed that smoking was responsible for the damage, but the dentist said my teeth have barely been affected by smoking, it's the drinks.
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    Re:Rear Left molar - Root Canal or Extraction? [Require Advice(s)] 2011/03/17 23:15:28 (permalink)
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    Wow - links anyone?

     
    Will try and find the one I'm thinking of mate. Might be a few days - Monday when you're back from the GP.
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    Re:Rear Left molar - Root Canal or Extraction? [Require Advice(s)] 2011/03/17 23:25:36 (permalink)
    I was given this choice recently. I chose to get it out. The dentist looked so relieved when i said it 'just take it out'. She said that because of the tooths position, root canal would have been a bit of a nightmare that doesn't come with a guarantee it will work.
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